9 Replies Latest reply on Dec 6, 2016 10:42 AM by susan1901

    Book Module Cover Background Issue

    susan1901

      Hello,

      I have created a book in LR6.5

      I have both front and back cover pages with a photo and text. The front image has a blue sky and so have set the cover background to match the blue sky using the eyedropper. There is no difference between the image and cover backgrounds in LR but when I export book to pdf, the image and cover backgrounds are different shades of blue.

      I matched the image and cover background when I first set the cover up but later tweaked the image in the Develop module and then went back and changed the background to match (using the eyedropper).

      Has anyone found the same issue and is there a solution?

      Any help would be appreciated.

        • 1. Re: Book Module Cover Background Issue
          99jon Adobe Community Professional & MVP

          I assume the background is having some effect on the photo but I don’t know how. If you have photoshop or photoshop elements you could design a double page spread and drop that into the cover place holder, without using a background.

          • 2. Re: Book Module Cover Background Issue
            trshaner Adobe Community Professional & MVP

            I can confirm that the background changes color in the PDF Export, but not the image. I thought it might be due to the PDF being converted to sRGB, but the below image and background are not out of sRGB gamut. Is this what you are seeing?

             

                                                  Acrobrat Pro DC                                Lightroom CC 2017.7 Book Module

            Book Module Background Color Changes in PDF.jpg

            • 3. Re: Book Module Cover Background Issue
              susan1901 Level 1

              Thanks for the reply, your images a showing a similar problem.

              This is what i am seeing in LR6.5:

              Screen Shot 2016-12-03 at 09.17.28.png

               

              This is the output in PDF (and, also, when I send to Blurb):

              Screen Shot 2016-12-03 at 09.19.30.png

               

              I'm fairly new to LR and this is the first Book i've created so it's possible that i have a setting incorrect.

              The book type created was Blurb (not PDF or JPEG). Also, if this helps, I think the background colour in the pdf was the initial background colour when i first created the cover. I subsequently tweaked the image and updated the background colour and this update is not being reflected in the pdf or the output to Blurb. As I'd like the book printed it would be nice to be able to solve the problem.

              Thanks for your help.

              • 4. Re: Book Module Cover Background Issue
                99jon Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                Sampling the background color of your image on my monitor I get an RGB Hex number of 799ac8 and for the sky in the photo 8faed3.

                 

                Try resetting the background color and in the color picker box choose the word Hex (bottom right) and type in 8faed3

                Does that give a better result?

                • 5. Re: Book Module Cover Background Issue
                  trshaner Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                  susan1901 wrote:

                   

                  Thanks for the reply, your images a showing a similar problem.

                   

                  I subsequently tweaked the image and updated the background colour and this update is not being reflected in the pdf or the output to Blurb. As I'd like the book printed it would be nice to be able to solve the problem.

                  Sorry for the late reply. I finally had a chance to investigate this issue further. It appears that the LR Book module treats the Background HSL color picker as sRGB color profile color values, but views it and the placed photos as ProPhoto RGB color profile tagged images.

                   

                  Unfortunately there is no "simple" workaround to correct this issue. Below is a procedure you can use to confirm that you are seeing the same issue.

                   

                  1) Select the image file that you want to match a color in the Book module Background and then use Edit in PS to open the image file in PS.

                   

                  2) Inside PS use 'Convert to Profile' and select sRGB as the new 'Destination Space' and click OK. Next use 'Assign Profile' and select 'ProPhoto RGB' and click OK.

                   

                  3) Write down the RGB color values of the sky or whatever area's color you are trying to match and go to the below website to convert the values to HSL:

                  HSL to RGB | RGB to HSL | Colour Calculator | Hex Color Converter

                   

                  4) Copy the HSL values into the LR Book module's Background Color picker. 'Export Book to PDF' and let me know if the Background now matches the color in the image file.

                   

                  I'll create a problem report and place the link back here in a reply.

                  • 6. Re: Book Module Cover Background Issue
                    trshaner Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                    Here's the link to the problem report: Lightroom Book Module Background Color Picker Bug | Photoshop Family Customer Community

                     

                    Please add your 'Me-To' vote and 'Follow' for updates at the above report in the Photoshop Family forum.

                    • 7. Re: Book Module Cover Background Issue
                      susan1901 Level 1

                      Thanks for your reply.

                      I have followed the instructions above although I have Elements installed and not Photoshop so have had to Convert to 'ProPhoto RGB' rather than 'Assign Profile'.

                      I converted the RGB values to HSL values and copied them into the Book modules Background Colour picker and when exported to PDF the image and background colour were a far better match (not quite an exact match but barely noticeable).

                      I'm happy now to send the book to be printed.

                      Many thanks for your help.

                      • 8. Re: Book Module Cover Background Issue
                        trshaner Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                        Convert to ProPhoto RGB isn't going to provide the correct values.

                         

                        Looking at my procedure you can eliminate the step 'Assign Profile' 'ProPhoto RGB.'

                         

                        Follow this revised procedure using PS Elements:

                         

                        1) Select the image file that you want to match a color in the Book module Background and then use Edit in PS to open the image file in PS.

                         

                        2) Inside PS use 'Convert to Profile' and select sRGB as the new 'Destination Space' and click OK.

                         

                        3) Write down the RGB color values of the sky or whatever area's color you are trying to match and go to the below website to convert the values to HSL:

                        HSL to RGB | RGB to HSL | Colour Calculator | Hex Color Converter

                         

                        4) Copy the HSL values into the LR Book module's Background Color picker. 'Export Book to PDF' and let me know if the Background now matches the color in the image file.

                         

                        This should match the exact color in the image file.

                        • 9. Re: Book Module Cover Background Issue
                          susan1901 Level 1

                          Hi.

                          I followed the instructions above and, in the PDF, the background colour now matches the image. This is the result:

                          In LR: Screen Shot 2016-12-06 at 18.31.35.png in PDF: Screen Shot 2016-12-06 at 18.33.47.png

                           

                          Thanks again.