8 Replies Latest reply on Dec 8, 2016 7:02 AM by anonymous75

    What product replaces LiveCycle Designer?

    anonymous75

      We have recently purchased Acrobat DC Pro to replace the older version (8 I believe it was). The previous version of Acrobat that we used included LiveCycle Designer, which we used to build a number of forms. We find that the new version does not include LiveCycle Designer, and that our forms can't be edited using the expensive software that we've purchased for this purpose. To recreate the forms that we've built would be quite a feat. What currently available product allows the user to edit forms that were created in LiveCycle Designer?

        • 1. Re: What product replaces LiveCycle Designer?
          Dov Isaacs Adobe Employee

          You can license the most recent version of LiveCycle Designer separately. Go to <Download Livecycle designer tool | Adobe LiveCycle Enterprise Suite 4>. There is no special pricing for upgrading from the LiveCycle Designer that was included with older Acrobat versions.

           

          Note that both Adobe and the industry in general has deprecated LiveCycle forms in favor of either the original Acrobat forms or web-based forms at this point (something you probably don't want to hear).

           

                    - Dov

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          • 2. Re: What product replaces LiveCycle Designer?
            anonymous75 Level 1

            Thank you. No, not what I wanted to hear at all, but at least it's information. I think it extremely poor customer service to have included LiveCycle for form creating/editing, only to render those forms useless a few versions later

            • 3. Re: What product replaces LiveCycle Designer?
              Dov Isaacs Adobe Employee

              We don't like the answer either, but a major part of the problem was that the LiveCycle forms feature was not adopted by other PDF viewer vendors (such as by Apple with their MacOS and iOS Preview program and thus, forms created with this format were effectively orphans from day 1.

               

                        - Dov

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              • 4. Re: What product replaces LiveCycle Designer?
                Test Screen Name Most Valuable Participant

                If you'd kept up to date rather than waiting a decade to upgrade... At the time of removal people with Acrobat 10 who upgraded to Acrobat 11 were entitled to get a free LiveCycle Designer license. But that has long finished.

                • 5. Re: What product replaces LiveCycle Designer?
                  anonymous75 Level 1

                  Thank you Mr. Isaacs. I appreciate your response.

                  • 6. Re: What product replaces LiveCycle Designer?
                    anonymous75 Level 1

                    Test Screen Name,

                    Your response is exceedingly unhelpful. In my institution I have no control over timing of software upgrades. Your response didn't answer my question at all, though thankfully I had already received an appropriate response from Mr. Isaacs.

                    Good day to you, and Merry Christmas.

                    • 7. Re: What product replaces LiveCycle Designer?
                      Karl Heinz Kremer Adobe Community Professional

                      Let me add my 2 cents. This is basically what I tell my customers: These forms are not useless, as long as you don't need to change them, and as long as you can control the environment in which they are used, you can keep on using them. I would hope that  Adobe is not going to remove support for these forms from Acrobat or Adobe Reader any time soon, so they can still be filled out and processed. When you come to a point where you need to modify one of these forms, you have to make a decision about how you want to do that. There are two options: You can modify the form (or, if you don't want to invest in yet another tool and learn how to use it, have somebody modify the form for you), or you can replace the form. When you decide that you want to replace the form, you have to decide if you want to stay within the PDF world and replace it with an "AcroForm" (these are the forms that are created with Adobe Acrobat), or to move away from PDF and use e.g. web forms.

                       

                      Because you have a license for Acrobat 8, you could even run that in a virtual machine on your computer and only bring it up when you have to modify these forms.

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                      • 8. Re: What product replaces LiveCycle Designer?
                        anonymous75 Level 1

                        Thank you Mr. Kremer. No, the forms would not be useless if they didn't require modification. They are very nice in their current state. Unfortunately, for our use they do require modification. Also unfortunately, our Acrobat 8 install is no longer functional (which is the reason that we were able to purchase the new version at this point). I would happily continue to use the older version if it were available to me. Thinking into the future, however, we will likely need to rebuild our forms into something that will be more universal. I will present the available options to our decision makers and go from there. Thanks for your input.