14 Replies Latest reply on Jul 20, 2017 9:24 AM by csavagevapld

    InDesign applies 'title case' on its own

    PeterKC

      I am editing text in an existing document. As I continue typing, InDesign CC 2017 sometimes decides to change the letter of the earlier just-typed words to a capital. This doesn't always happen, but once it starts it continues until I move somewhere else in the document. (It may or may not happen in the new location as well.) Paragraph style is set to Normal case.

       

      How can I stop this from happening?!

        • 1. Re: InDesign applies 'title case' on its own
          winterm Level 5

          Most likely, Autocorrect is ON. Check Preferences > Autocorrect > Autocorrect Capitalization Errors

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          • 2. Re: InDesign applies 'title case' on its own
            PeterKC Level 1

            Thanks — sounds like a good work-around.

             

            But autocorrect of capitalization errors is there because it can be useful — what's not useful is when InDesign suddenly, unpredictably decides that every word should be capitalized for no reason at all.  Sounds like a bug needs attention.

            • 3. Re: InDesign applies 'title case' on its own
              winterm Level 5

              I strongly doubt ID 'decides' itself to correct your writing. It must be active Autocorrect, or maybe you accidentally turn on Title Case (may it have some custom kb shortcut assigned? May it be Style settings?). It's hard to tell without seeing actual doc on actual machine.

              Basically, I prefer text editors (like Word) for entering and spelling bigger amounts of text, and keep ID's Autocorrect OFF. InDesign is for design.

               

              Edit: additionally, you can check Spelling tab in Preferences. Word capitalization is involved there, too...

              • 4. Re: InDesign applies 'title case' on its own
                PeterKC Level 1

                My thoughts are much the same. Word is a weird app with many undesirable & unpredictable behaviors, but there aren't many alternatives for editing large volumes of text where paragraph & character styles are involved. (In fact, the text in this document was created in Word.)

                 

                But I can be making two corrections in the same paragraph, only to find that one is fine, while each word in the other correction (in the same paragraph) has an initial cap applied.

                 

                If I watch the screen, it does look like an autocorrect in that it happens as soon as I add a space after the word — but what is it correcting?  On what basis is capitalizing words in the middle of a paragraph a valid 'autocorrect'?

                 

                I am not aware of any way to 'trigger' Title Case with a keyboard shortcut. I can create a shortcut for Type/Change Case/Title Case, but that only works if text is selected before it is invoked. (It does not change case for the next word typed.)

                • 5. Re: InDesign applies 'title case' on its own
                  BarbBinder Adobe Community Professional

                  Did you create this document yourself, or did someone else?

                   

                  The two of you have covered all of the usual suspects, and while there is a default keyboard shortcut to assign title case, it's only to the selection, and doesn't stay on (as you stated). Could there be a GREP style on the paragraph?

                  InDesign CCss_004.png

                  • 6. Re: InDesign applies 'title case' on its own
                    jane-e Adobe Community Professional

                    Watch both your Paragraph and Character panels. If a Character style is applied manually, it will be highlighted. Notice that this panel says "None". But when a Character style is applied automatically (Drop Cap, GREP, Nested Styles), the Character Style will be at the bottom. That's where this panel says "Bold".

                     

                    Does your Character panel say that a style is being applied?

                     

                    It could be any of the above reasons, so tell us more, or post a screen shot.

                     

                    • 7. Re: InDesign applies 'title case' on its own
                      BarbBinder Adobe Community Professional

                      jane-e—I can'f figure out how title case can be assigned via a character style... what am I missing?

                      InDesign CCss_006.png

                      • 8. Re: InDesign applies 'title case' on its own
                        PeterKC Level 1

                        No character style is active in my document — and as BarbBinder notes, character styles don't provide a 'Title Case' option.  Just like ¶ styles, the only options are for normal, all caps, small caps.  the only title case option of which I'm aware is in the Type menu [Type/Change Case/Title Case], and it applies only to selected text.  If there's a mode that makes everything title case, I've never seen or heard of it.

                         

                        It is true that there's a spelling preference to check uncapitalized words, but that obviously does not mean that every word should be capitalized — and, as noted, it's an intermittent problem.

                         

                        There are no nested styles in this document, no GREP styles.

                         

                        So it seems to me that InDesign has a bug that causes it — sometimes — to 'correct' a word by capitalizing the first letter, even when there is no reason to do so.

                        • 9. Re: InDesign applies 'title case' on its own
                          BarbBinder Adobe Community Professional

                          Ok, I think you've approached this very systematically, eliminating the possible suspects.

                          The next step is to report it to Adobe:

                          Wishform - Adobe InDesign

                          • 10. Re: InDesign applies 'title case' on its own
                            jane-e Adobe Community Professional

                            Barbara is correct, as you know—I was out most of yesterday and did not get back to this. When I looked it up, I saw that I am (was) one of many who thought incorrectly that there was a character style for this.

                             

                            More questions, though:

                            • Does it do this in all documents or just this document?

                            • Have you reset preferences?

                            https://helpx.adobe.com/indesign/using/setting-preferences.html

                            • 11. Re: InDesign applies 'title case' on its own
                              PeterKC Level 1

                              jane-e —  

                               

                              The problem seems to come and go for no reason that I can discern, so I will have to do some more checking to be sure of this. 

                               

                              The document in question is the first new document since updating to CC 2017. (Most of the documents I've been working on were created in CC 2016.)  A total reset of preferences might help, especially if some old setting was treated incorrectly during the update. 

                               

                              I'll post another response to this thread if I have anything new....

                               

                              Peter

                              • 12. Re: InDesign applies 'title case' on its own
                                PeterKC Level 1

                                Thanks!

                                 

                                It doesn't explain why or how it happened, but after I trashed the preferences and recreated them all, the problem appears to be corrected.  [So far, at least — If it starts up again, I'll add to this.]

                                • 13. Re: InDesign applies 'title case' on its own
                                  jane-e Adobe Community Professional

                                  When InDesign acts flaky, the best thing to do is to trash preferences. It doesn't happen often, but it does happen, and this usually takes care of it. Do post again if it comes back, but let's hope it's gone forever!

                                  • 14. Re: InDesign applies 'title case' on its own
                                    csavagevapld

                                    I also have this issue on occasion. I am starting to wonder if it has to do with a file that is edited by multiple people -- some on Mac and some on PC? That is my best guess at this point. And no, I do not have a fix. It's driving me batty.