6 Replies Latest reply on Jan 11, 2017 4:18 PM by tarafield

    HELP!!! Bleed and Crop Boxes wrong for publication.

    tarafield

      I am trying to set up bleed and crop marks for my publishers requirements in InDesign (and exporting them to PDF) but she was very vague on the instructions. She sent me an example:

      228091_A4toA5_44_2016 Piano Concert_press_Page_1.jpg

      I have fiddled with EVERYTHING, from the bleed marks, to the crop marks, the slug, the offset, but my document still appears slightly outside the bleed area. I want it to be slightly inside the bleed area like the above example. This is the best I can do:

       

      test 1.jpg

      How do I get my image to be slightly inside the bleed area? I tried minusing the offset but it starts at "0"

      These are my current settings:

       

      WIDTH 49p7.276 (AUS A4 size)

      HEIGHT 70p1.89 (AUS A4 size)

      Bleed: 0p5.669 As instructed by publisher. Left, Right, Top Bottom

      Slug: 0. she didnt mention this

       

      MY CURRENT EXPORT SETTINGS:

       

      Untitled-3.jpg

       

       

      I have tried everything I can and it is DRIVING ME INSANE, please help. The publisher offered to fix it for me for a fee, but its probably something simple and they charge enough already! I am obviously missing something simple or doing something wrong.

       

        • 1. Re: HELP!!! Bleed and Crop Boxes wrong for publication.
          smoothsea Level 3

          Hi,

           

          Selecting bleed on your output settings is correct, but Indesign won't generate the bleed for you. You have to make sure that you show the bleed area in your document (ie make sure you're not in preview mode). The bleed area shows as a red line outside the boundary of your page, and your image must be large enough to fill that area.

           

          Sorry - just noticed that you don't have crop marks selected in your output dialog. The marks that you see are actually the bleed marks which are not necessary. Switch off bleed marks and switch on crop marks and you should be good to go.

           

          Regards,

           

          Malcolm

          • 2. Re: HELP!!! Bleed and Crop Boxes wrong for publication.
            Eternal Warrior Adobe Community Professional

            Malcolm is right. I would mark this as the correct answer

            • 3. Re: HELP!!! Bleed and Crop Boxes wrong for publication.
              tarafield Level 1

              I did what you said Malcom thanks. I turned off the crop marks and put the bleed marks on, however it still looks exactly the same? the publisher insists that I have it the same as the example she gave me. These are the instructions she gave me about how to set everything:

              "

              Okay, if it’s inDesign I can help

              >

              > If you go into File -> Document Setup

              >

              > At the Bleed and Slug area, change Bleed to 2mm Top, Bottom, left right -> Okay

              >

              >

              > When you get back to the file, press “W” to see working space (if you’re already seen the bleed mark, which is a red border outside the black area, then don’t need to press W)

              >

              > Extend the background to the red border if there’s any background you want to print to the edges

              >

              > Keep text in the 7mm margin (Use Layout -> Margins and Columns) to set up the 7mm margin on all edges

              >

              > When you export, remember to export with bleeds (Bleed Export)

              >

              >

              > Attached are some examples, hopefully it’s clearer"

               

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              I did what she said which let me to my problem as it does not look like the example, I sent her my file (which still looks like the one i have recently changed and she replied:

               

              "The bleed setup is correct but the cropmarks are too close to the edges, need to be at least 2mm away from the trimming edges.

              If it’s not possible, please remove it altogether"

               

              Any advice on what she wants would be greatly appreciated. I thank you for the help you have given me, too

              • 4. Re: HELP!!! Bleed and Crop Boxes wrong for publication.
                smoothsea Level 3

                Hi,

                 

                Here is an A4 Indesign document with 3mm bleed setup. The blue background extends into the bleed area.

                indesignSetup.JPG

                Here is the Indesign export PDF dialog - note the offset setting of 2mm - that is the distance away from the trim that the cropmarks will draw.

                exportSettings.JPG

                And here is the PDF export. Note that the background extends into the bleed area.resultingPDF.JPG

                 

                I hope that's a bit clearer.

                 

                Regards,

                 

                Malcolm

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                • 5. Re: HELP!!! Bleed and Crop Boxes wrong for publication.
                  tarafield Level 1

                  Thanks I will try that. I noticed your offset and bleed settings are different than mine which may have been my problem.

                  • 6. Re: HELP!!! Bleed and Crop Boxes wrong for publication.
                    tarafield Level 1

                    THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!!! It worked you were right, I had to make the offset 1mm less than the bleed, makes sense now! she didn't explain it to me and mentioned nothing about the offset.

                     

                    Problem solved