4 Replies Latest reply on Feb 1, 2017 9:48 AM by stevenhgordon

    Apple Photos exports of JPEGs-Are XMPs Importable?

    stevenhgordon

      I'm starting with Lightroom CC after using Apple iPhoto/Photos for years. I use iCloud Photo Library to store and sync images. My goal is to import photos from Apple Photos into LR and I've focused on two workflows for doing this.

       

      The easiest is to import from an alias of the Photos Library.photoslibrary package.

       

      The other workflow is exporting images from Apple Photos by year into a new folder ("Import-Lightroom"). When I tried this, I chose Photo's option Export IPTC to XMP.

       

      My main question is this: because almost all my images are JPEGs (not RAW), are these XMP files actually used during LR import? And, if used, do they provide any valuable information I can work with in LR?

       

      My other question is more general. Is one workflow of getting Apple Photos into LR better than the other?

        • 1. Re: Apple Photos exports of JPEGs-Are XMPs Importable?
          johnrellis Most Valuable Participant

          My main question is this: because almost all my images are JPEGs (not RAW), are these XMP files actually used during LR import?

          LR only pays attention to .xmp sidecars for raws -- it ignores them for every other file type.  You can use the free Exiftool to see if Aperture is putting information into the .xmp sidecars that's not in the .jpgs themselves.  If it is, you can also use Exiftool to copy the information from the .xmp into the .jpg.  The documentation has examples that show how to do that.

           

          I can't answer your other questions -- it may be that the answers may obviate the need to learn the difficult Exiftool.

          • 2. Re: Apple Photos exports of JPEGs-Are XMPs Importable?
            stevenhgordon Level 1

            Thanks, John. I experimented with exporting images out of Apple Photos. Some I exported with the option to also export XMPs. And I found, upon import into Lightroom, that there was no difference in the Metadata between those with and those without accompanying XMP files. These were all JPEGs so I assume your answer is correct.

             

            My other question answered itself. Because Lightroom can manage (move, rename, delete) images in a source folder (like the Master folder within Apple Photos), then it's best not to mess with it and instead create a dedicated "Import-Lightroom" folder that always stores images from my Mac and iOS devices.

            • 3. Re: Apple Photos exports of JPEGs-Are XMPs Importable?
              johnrellis Most Valuable Participant

              Some I exported with the option to also export XMPs. And I found, upon import into Lightroom, that there was no difference in the Metadata between those with and those without accompanying XMP files.

              Right, that confirms that LR ignores .xmp files.  You'll still need to determine if there is information in them that you want imported into LR.  The .xmp files are just text files -- you can open them in a text editor and see if there are fields that aren't showing up in LR's Metadata panel (with the EXIF or IPTC presets).

              • 4. Re: Apple Photos exports of JPEGs-Are XMPs Importable?
                stevenhgordon Level 1

                I did a spot check in TextEdit and the XMPs mostly had Apple's face ID notations. That doesn't matter at this point as I plan to run Lightroom's People function anyway and start over and do it more thoroughly this time. Thanks, again!