13 Replies Latest reply on Feb 23, 2017 2:23 AM by trshaner

    Histograms still slow after 4 years. HELP!

    hunterp75995293 Level 1

      Histograms generate slow in the library mode. I should have a choice to turn off this feature. This slows down my workflow and needs to change.

       

      I have tried everything: smart previews, 1:1 previews, setting cache size to 100GB...buying a new computer (MB Pro 2016 Touchbar with 4GB Radeon 460 GFX Card) .nothing speeds up this process.

       

      I am a professional and I store my photos on an external drive. I have zero....use for histograms in library mode. The reason I use library mode is to flag and star my photos....but the "loading" process of the histogram means that I cannot effectively sort through a set of photos.

       

      There should be an option to turn off histogram generation in library mode.

       

      People have been complaining about this issue for 4 years now. Fix it.

       

      Thank you.

        • 1. Re: Histograms still slow after 4 years. HELP!
          elie_di Level 3

          It has always been possible to turn off the histogram - at least for the 9 years I have been using LR.

           

          "I have tried everything: smart previews, 1:1 previews, setting cache size to 100GB..."

          All of which have no influence on the speed of  loading the grid view. Smart Previews and the CR Cache are used only by the Develop module.

           

          "People have been complaining about this issue for 4 years now."

          Did something change 4 years ago when all these people started complaining about a non-issue?

          • 2. Re: Histograms still slow after 4 years. HELP!
            hunterp75995293 Level 1

            wrong, it hides it, but does not disable it. I still get loading waits when rapidly cycling through a new set of photos.

            • 3. Re: Histograms still slow after 4 years. HELP!
              trshaner Adobe Community Professional & MVP

              This is an indication that the selected Zoom View size Library Preview has not been built or needs to be updated.

               

              To review image files at 'Fit' Zoom view in the Library module:

              1) Select the image files to be reviewed.

              2) Go to menu Library> Previews and select 'Build Standard-Sized Previews.'

              3) Select Zoom Size 'Fit.'

              4) Try "cycling" through the images using the Right and Left keyboard keys.

               

              Does that work?

               

              To review image files at 1:1 or any of the other number size (1:2, 1:3, !:4, etc.) Zoom views in the Library module:

              1) Select the image files to be reviewed.

              2) Go to menu Library> Previews and select 'Build 1:1 Previews.'

              3) Select Zoom Size '1:1' or other number size (1:2, 1:3, !:4, etc.)

              4) Try "cycling" through the images using the Right and Left keyboard keys.

               

              NOTE: If you edit ANY image files in the Develop module after building the Library previews you will need to rebuild them in the Library module as outlined above.

               

              If after following the above procedure you still experience slow image rendering in the Library module we can investigate other causes.

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              • 4. Re: Histograms still slow after 4 years. HELP!
                hunterp75995293 Level 1

                NOPE. Here is a video proving exactly what I stated in the original post, and none of the suggestions apply:

                LightroomSlowmov2 - YouTube

                • 5. Re: Histograms still slow after 4 years. HELP!
                  Just Shoot Me Adobe Community Professional

                  What you are seeing is normal as far as I'm concerned. it is because you are dealing with RAW files. LR is creating a view of the actual RAW file, LOADING, instead of displaying the embedded JPG inside the RAW image or the standard preview (smart Preview) at time of import.

                  • 6. Re: Histograms still slow after 4 years. HELP!
                    hunterp75995293 Level 1

                    Normal is not good enough. This slows me down. I shoot RAW + JPG and my previous workflow involved filtering the JPG's outside of lightroom, then applying some code to move those files.

                     

                    My original point stands, the histogram slows down my workflow, and it is a reasonable request. Please do not chime in further to disagree, your position is noted and understood.

                    • 8. Re: Histograms still slow after 4 years. HELP!
                      trshaner Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                      hunterp75995293  wrote

                       

                      Normal is not good enough. This slows me down. I shoot RAW + JPG and my previous workflow involved filtering the JPG's outside of lightroom, then applying some code to move those files.

                      What you are seeing as demonstrated in the video is NOT normal behavior! Please tell us the version of LR and OS X you are using as well as monitor resolution(s) and if you are using two or more displays. Also in Catalog settings> File Handling make sure you have 'Standard Preview Size' set to 'Auto' with the 'px' dimension showing equal to the display width resolution. In the below case I am using a 2560 x 1440 display.

                      hunterp75995293  wrote

                       

                      My original point stands, the histogram slows down my workflow, and it is a reasonable request. Please do not chime in further to disagree, your position is noted and understood.

                      When reviewing images quickly in the LR 2015.8 Library module I can tag them as Picks, Star Ratings, etc. before the Histogram is even showing (calculating) and move on to the next image file. I do NOT see the spinning wheel  'Loading....' popup! This is with a very modest performance system (i7-860) using 21 Mp Canon 5D MKII raw files with a single 2560 x1440 monitor.

                      • 9. Re: Histograms still slow after 4 years. HELP!
                        trshaner Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                        https://forums.adobe.com/people/Just+Shoot+Me  wrote

                         

                        What you are seeing is normal as far as I'm concerned. it is because you are dealing with RAW files. LR is creating a view of the actual RAW file, LOADING, instead of displaying the embedded JPG inside the RAW image or the standard preview (smart Preview) at time of import.

                        This is normal behavior for the Develop module, which builds its previews real-time. When making Develop module adjustment changes the screen preview is quickly updated to reflect those changes. Because of this when reviewing images in the Develop module there will be a delay as each image file is rendered. This should not happen in the Library module if the Library previews are rebuilt after applying Develop module changes.

                        • 10. Re: Histograms still slow after 4 years. HELP!
                          hunterp75995293 Level 1

                          I've submitted a bug request, however, it was not clear if it properly submitted. OS 10.12.3, Macbook Pro 2016 Touchbar with Radeon 460, Lightroom 2015.8.  Anyway, I hope my video serves as proof of the issue and that enough noise has been made to motivate the team to improve the product. Can an official adobe employee be brought to the attention of this? Please, and thank you!

                          • 11. Re: Histograms still slow after 4 years. HELP!
                            trshaner Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                            There are other troubleshooting steps that may resolve your issue, but it appears you aren't interested. Bug reports should be submitted here: Photoshop Family Customer Community Adobe employees do monitor that forum.

                            • 12. Re: Histograms still slow after 4 years. HELP!
                              hunterp75995293 Level 1

                              I tried all steps you suggested. And I do have an existing workflow solution as I stated that does not involve lightroom. My thesis remains intact. Thank you!

                              • 13. Re: Histograms still slow after 4 years. HELP!
                                trshaner Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                                I suggest posting a link to your bug report in this thread so that others with the same issue landing here can add their 'Me-To' vote. This helps to get Adobe Staff's attention (i.e. the more votes the more likely they will investigate further).