8 Replies Latest reply on Mar 2, 2017 12:38 PM by Frans van der Geest (ACP)

    I can't figure out why some sections of font appear darker/thicker when I export to a .pdf

    jenniferc10116741

      The font appears normal in the InDesign file. There is no heavy stroke or character selected. The content font all appears to be the same. However, when I go to export the  document into a .pdf certain font sections appear darker/thicker. How do I fix this? fontissue.png

        • 1. Re: I can't figure out why some sections of font appear darker/thicker when I export to a .pdf
          Dov Isaacs Adobe Employee

          Most likely, there is transparency involved, either explicitly or implicitly, in the areas where the darker/thicker text is seen and you are exporting PDF using a setting such as PDF/X-1a or PDF/X-3 that ruins transparency by flattening it as part of the PDF generation process. PDF versions less than 1.4 do not support live transparency and as such, the areas with transparency must be flattened into opaque objects. This may require that text objects be converted to vectors or raster bitmaps, both of which may have the possibility of having that darker/thicker look at lower magnifications.

           

          A workaround is to make sure that the text is at the "top" of the design with no overprints or transparency. Better than that, export PDF using either PDF/X-4 or options based on at least PDF 1.4 (such as High Quality Print); don't use Press Quality!

           

                    - Dov

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          • 2. Re: I can't figure out why some sections of font appear darker/thicker when I export to a .pdf
            jenniferc10116741 Level 1

            Hi Dov,

            Thank you for responding, I appreciate your time.
            I tried exporting as PDF/X-4 and still got the same result. How do I make sure the text is at the top of the design with no overprints or transparency?

            • 3. Re: I can't figure out why some sections of font appear darker/thicker when I export to a .pdf
              Dov Isaacs Adobe Employee

              The layers palette should be able to show relative positioning. In terms of either transparency or overprint, you can check that with either the style settings for the text as well as the appropriate palettes.

               

              If you can post a copy of the PDF of the problematic page, we might be able to give a more concise diagnosis.

               

                        - Dov

              • 4. Re: I can't figure out why some sections of font appear darker/thicker when I export to a .pdf
                Steve Werner Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                Since you can't post the PDF file here on the forum, you could post it on an account like Dropbox and provide a link so we could examine it.

                • 5. Re: I can't figure out why some sections of font appear darker/thicker when I export to a .pdf
                  Laubender Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                  Hi Jennifer,

                  do like Steve is suggesting.


                  But not only the PDF, also the InDesign document.

                  Zip both files and upload it to a service like Dropbox and post the downlod link.

                   

                  In the meanwhile you could check the Pages panel and see if there is some transparency on the spread.
                  Might be something on the pasteboard as well.

                   

                  Go to the panel options and enable the little checkerboard symbol that is showing that transparency is on the spread.

                  From my German InDesign:

                   

                  Symbole

                  [x] Transparenz (Transparency)

                   

                  PagesPanel-Options-ShowingTransparencyAdornment.png

                   

                   

                  An object on the pasteboard with an effect applied: Transparency on the spread.

                  The symbol is showing up.

                   

                  SomethingOnThePasteboard-TranspON.png

                   

                  No transparency on the spread, the symbol is not showing:

                   

                  SomethingOnThePasteboard-TranspOFF.png

                   

                  Regards,
                  Uwe

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                  • 6. Re: I can't figure out why some sections of font appear darker/thicker when I export to a .pdf
                    Randy Hagan Adobe Community Professional

                    Hi Jennifer.

                     

                    I'd suggest you try one more thing before you get wrapped around the axle applying "fixes."

                     

                    1) Open the offending PDF.

                     

                    2) Zoom in to 200%, then 300%, then 400%. Be sure you can see samples of both the text that doesn't seem to be artificially thickened, as well as the text that does.

                     

                    If you find, at a high display percentage, that the text no longer appears to be thickened, you've run across a long-running flaw of Acrobat displaying some documents.

                     

                    On an infrequent, but consistent to a document basis on a given system, Acrobat's display will render with an artificial "thickening" of text characters. The reason I suggest zooming in to several different percentages is that the problem "clears up" at different percentages for different documents, on different systems.

                     

                    If it's any consolation, if this is your problem it will invariably print fine. And if you have multiple systems in your shop, you'll often find that the display rendering is different on different systems -- or that the zoom percentage that "clears it up" will be.

                     

                    I can't definitively say that this is your problem. I work on print-intent documents all day, every day, and I see this happen maybe every other month or so. But I run across this problem often enough that it's the first thing I check before I start trying to apply any fixes to a PDF with this issue. If your PDF is intended for print, I'd ignore it -- and just grumble to myself that WYSIWYG is once again one of those great lies like "the check is in the mail" while I output it. If it's intent is online or other digital display, I'd first check it on another machine (or two), and grumble a little louder to myself about it before I start messing with the PDF file.

                    • 7. Re: I can't figure out why some sections of font appear darker/thicker when I export to a .pdf
                      Dov Isaacs Adobe Employee

                      One other possibility is that the characters that appear artificially darker/thicker have been “outlined” or have both a fill color as well as a color outline applied to them.

                       

                      Again, if you supply a PDF file, we can quickly advise as to what the symptoms point to.

                       

                                - Dov

                      • 8. Re: I can't figure out why some sections of font appear darker/thicker when I export to a .pdf
                        Frans van der Geest (ACP) Adobe Community Professional

                        I think Dov is on to something: I see the white header text have a black outline, big chance this is also applied to the other text in the right column by mistake...