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Can't unembed link

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Mar 07, 2017 Mar 07, 2017

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I inherited a document with three signature graphics, all of them named (or not named) "graphic". They are embedded, and they keep trading places, Ann's signature following Tracy's name, Tracy's signature following Lila's name etc. If I keep playing with it, I get lucky and each one ends up in its proper frame, but I haven't been lucky that much, and I'd prefer to just fix it.

Normally when I encounter embedded graphics, I just unembed them. These are something special that resists unembedding, gives me a message of "Indesign cannot unembed some of the links because they do not have a name". Is there any way to unembed a graphic like this? Is there a way to give it a name so I can unembed it? Here's a link to a blank page with one of these on it:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/bbqvdm7bpzgto05/cant-unembed.indd?dl=0

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Community Expert , Mar 07, 2017 Mar 07, 2017

I could not get it to un-embed, but I was able to copy it and paste it into Photoshop.

Make sure your InDesign Clipboard Handling preferences are set to Copy PDF to Clipboard.

You can then copy the signatures and paste each into its own new Photoshop document.

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I could not get it to un-embed, but I was able to copy it and paste it into Photoshop.

Make sure your InDesign Clipboard Handling preferences are set to Copy PDF to Clipboard.

You can then copy the signatures and paste each into its own new Photoshop document.

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Mar 07, 2017 Mar 07, 2017

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If you are using OSX I can post an AppleScript that will unembed them.

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Mar 08, 2017 Mar 08, 2017

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Thanks, SJ. I ended up exporting to PDF and then opening the PDF in Photoshop. Your method is probably better, though. I had to guess at the resolution.

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Mar 08, 2017 Mar 08, 2017

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Hi Kenneth,

why do you had to guess the resolution?

Just open the Links panel and check the pixel dimensions:

720 x 301 px

Do a page size like that with InDesign

Scale the image to that size and position it at x/y: 0,0

Export to PDF.

Open with PhotoShop as a 720 x 301 px image in Grayscale mode.

Change Mode to Bitmap 1-Bit.

Save with a new name as TIFF image.

FWIW: Copy/paste from InDesign to PhotoShop results in the wrong ratio and size:

728 x 246 px

Regards,
Uwe

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Mar 08, 2017 Mar 08, 2017

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Uwe, A while back there was a question about saving pasted graphics and replacing them as links. I wrote this AppleScript that gets the complete PDF info from pasted graphics then saves & links. It also seems to work in this case. I checked the saved PDF after running the script and the Black & White bitmap is there at its original pixel dimensions.

Here's the script:

tell application "Adobe InDesign CC 2014"

    --make sure the clipboard pref is copy PDF

    set MyClipPref to copy PDF to clipboard of clipboard preferences

    set copy PDF to clipboard of clipboard preferences to true

  

    --where to copy embedded files

    set myFolder to (choose folder with prompt "Please select the folder you want to save your PDF pages in") as string

    set myDocument to active document

  

    --get all of the doc's page items

    set pitems to all page items of every page item of myDocument

  

    --empty path and image name lists for linking later

    set imagePaths to {}

    set copiedimages to {}

  

    repeat with i from 1 to number of items in pitems

      

        -- a placed item is item 1 of the page item, try skips everything else

        try

            set myPic to item 1 of item i of pitems

          

            --the placed file's item link, pasted files return nothing

            set x to item link of myPic

          

            --check for pasted or embedded files,

            if x is nothing or status of x is link embedded then

              

                --select the placed for copying

                select myPic

              

                --the the link id to use as a name

                set myname to id of myPic

              

                --the scale

                set hs to horizontal scale of myPic

                set vs to vertical scale of myPic

              

                --temporarily set the scale to 100% so the copy is the original actual resolution

                set horizontal scale of myPic to 100

                set vertical scale of myPic to 100

              

                --copy and reset the scale

                copy

                set horizontal scale of myPic to hs

                set vertical scale of myPic to vs

              

                --save the clipboard as a PDF

                tell application "Finder"

                    my saveImage(myFolder, myname)

                end tell

              

                --save the paths and images as lists for linking

                set end of imagePaths to myFolder & myname & ".pdf"

                set end of copiedimages to myPic

            end if

        end try

    end repeat

  

    --link the saved files

    repeat with j from 1 to number of items in imagePaths

        set itemlink to item j of imagePaths

        place alias itemlink on item j of copiedimages

    end repeat

  

    --reset preference

    set copy PDF to clipboard of clipboard preferences to MyClipPref

end tell

--writes clipboard to disk

--save folder, image name

on saveImage(theFolder, filename)

    --the save path

    set myPath to theFolder & filename & ".pdf"

    try

        set myFile to (open for access myPath with write permission)

        set eof myFile to 0

        write (the clipboard as «class PDF ») to myFile -- as whatever

        close access myFile

        return (POSIX path of myPath)

    on error

        try

            close access myFile

        end try

        return ""

    end try

end saveImage

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Mar 08, 2017 Mar 08, 2017

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Hi Rob,

thank you very much for this!

Just tested your script on the original InDesign document provided by Kenneth.
German InDesign CS6 8.1 on OSX 10.6.8.

All went great!
Name of exported PDF is 213.pdf according to the ID number of the embedded image.

The next step would be to extract the bitmap from the PDF and saving it as 1-Bit TIFF for further usage with InDesign (to color it perhaps). Currently I can only test with Acrobat 9 and X. But for this kind of bitmap Acrobat is not able to hand this job over to PhotoShop directly. Maybe because of the image mask, maybe because of the 1-Bit nature of the image.

Will test later with Acrobat Pro DC.

So we would open and render the PDF with PhotoShop according to the original pixel dimensions:

720 x 301 px

For this kind of image one has to look up the numbers, because PhotoShop CS6 will suggest different ones. And if one is following PhotoShop's guess the aspect ratio would be different and pixels would be changed.


My assumption here is that the pixels were built of square shapes.

Thanks,
Uwe

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But for this kind of bitmap Acrobat is not able to hand this job over to PhotoShop directly. Maybe because of the image mask, maybe because of the 1-Bit nature of the image.

Looks like it's coming from a fax, which might explain the missing name and weird aspect ratio? I don't think the OP needs the bitmap—it's the embedded graphics all named the same causing a problem in the layout.

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