30 Replies Latest reply on Aug 20, 2017 1:27 AM by Simon G E Garrett

    Release of Lightroom 7?

    Juliansdad Level 1

      I gather from reading the posts of a few people, that Lightroom has evolved a lot since I purchased v.4.

      So I know that if I buy a stand-alone edition, I'll get version 6.  But even version 6 is now a couple of years old this spring.

      Do you have any idea when Adobe is releasing v.7?

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          JimHess Adobe Community Professional & MVP

          There has been no indication of when or if there will be a Lightroom 7. It would seem logical that if there is going to be such a release  it should be soon. But Adobe never makes such announcements in advance. And anyone who might know has been bound by nondisclosure agreements. So you'll just have to wait and see like everyone else. Not the answer you want, I know. But that's the way it is.

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            humu2nuku2 Level 1

            I believe that there will not be a LR 7. They have changed to Creative Cloud, requiring a monthly subscription.

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              JimHess Adobe Community Professional & MVP

              There has been no indication that there will not be a Lightroom 7. Adobe has not changed to the creative cloud. Both standalone Lightroom 6 and Lightroom CC are currently receiving updates. It's true, however, that Lightroom CC receives feature updates that are not included in Lightroom 6.

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                bob frost Level 3

                But the fact that Adobe CS6 is not going to receive any more updates (i.e no CS7), is indicative that the same might happen to LR6. But I do seem to remember someone in the LR team saying that standalone versions of LR would go on indefinitely. Depends how you define indefinitely, and whether that person is still in the LR team!

                 

                Bob Frost

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                  JimHess Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                  It's difficult to predict what might happen with Lightroom in the future. Personally, I feel that Lightroom will be around for years to come. But it might take on a different role. I don't know how many have seen the videos that were released from the big Adobe convention. There is a new project that I believe is code named Nimbus. The idea behind it is that regardless of whether you are using a computer or tablet or phone they interface will be identical. And if I understood correctly, images would be stored in the cloud. So it would seem there changes are in the wind, but I don't know how those changes  will affect Lightroom. Here's a link to an introductory video  if you're interested.

                  https://www.lightroomqueen.com/future-cloud-based-photo-editor-nimbus/

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                    Tanja2014 Level 2

                    JimHess  schrieb

                     

                    It's difficult to predict what might happen with Lightroom in the future. Personally, I feel that Lightroom will be around for years to come. But it might take on a different role. I don't know how many have seen the videos that were released from the big Adobe convention. There is a new project that I believe is code named Nimbus. The idea behind it is that regardless of whether you are using a computer or tablet or phone they interface will be identical. And if I understood correctly, images would be stored in the cloud. So it would seem there changes are in the wind, but I don't know how those changes  will affect Lightroom. Here's a link to an introductory video  if you're interested.

                    https://www.lightroomqueen.com/future-cloud-based-photo-editor-nimbus/

                     

                     

                    to be honest who would be stupid enough to have all his images in the cloud?

                    maybe the facebook junkies and such. but no professional in his right mind would rely on a cloud service for editing.

                     

                    no person (at least no professional person) with an IQ higher than a banana would put all his images in the cloud.

                    adobe joins the club of the data miners, like google FB and co.

                    but they sure wont get my data. this stuff has to stop. but most people are to ignorant to see the dangers.

                     

                    but there are always alternatives. and currently some alternatives are way better that the outdated lightroom we have right now.

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                      dj_paige Level 9

                      humu2nuku2  wrote

                       

                      I believe that there will not be a LR 7. They have changed to Creative Cloud, requiring a monthly subscription.

                      Then why, please tell me, would they release Lightroom 6?

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                        JimHess Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                        Don't get me wrong. I'm not promoting that idea. I just mentioned that that's where Adobe is looking. And I can see a lot of potential for images in the cloud. There are a lot of professionals who have voiced their opinion  on this forum that they need that kind of access. Maybe from your frame of mind and from your perspective cloud storage isn't a good idea. Fortunately, you don't have to make that choice. Lightroom was originally conceived as a program for professional photographers. But who are the ones who are grabbing onto it? The people who want to post images directly to Facebook, or their website. Some of the questions that are asked on the forum are definitely from people who are perceiving Lightroom as Picasa on steroids. They expect Lightroom to handle all of their cute little scrapbook projects. Apparently, Lightroom hasn't caught the group Adobe had expected to catch. If cloud storage doesn't work for you then you won't be interested in this new concept. I am just anticipating that the focus for Lightroom might change a bit in the future.

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                          D Fosse Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                          JimHess  wrote

                           

                          And I can see a lot of potential for images in the cloud.

                           

                          Well, working speed isn't one of them...care to wait for a 36 or 50 megapixel file to load, let alone 100 of them? This "cloud" hype really has to stop. Internet bandwidth still shows no sign of getting even close to what it would need to be, for any working photographer to even consider the idea.

                           

                          As for putting all your material up there, even thinking about it, that's just madness on every level.

                           

                          Reality check, please...

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                            JimHess Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                            Okay. Tell that to the Adobe development team. All I did was provide a link to the video. You can draw your own conclusions about its usefulness or its merits. You seem to think that I am on a soapbox promoting this. I'm not.

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                              D Fosse Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                              I know you're not, Jim. It wasn't directed at you, but it probably looked that way. Sorry about that.

                               

                              I'm just getting this whole cloud thing up to here. It's so unrealistic.

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                                JimHess Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                                I tend to agree with you. I subscribe to creative cloud, but I don't use Lightroom Mobile on any of my mobile devices. I occasionally share a collection for a brief period of time and provide links to Lightroom.adobe.com.  But for some reason, Adobe seems to think that's the wave of the future. I'm just wondering what impact that will have on Lightroom and if the emphasis will change. Just have to wait and see, I suppose.

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                                  ThorstenMUC Level 1

                                  It will "simply" come down to a business decision... and working in a software-company myself I'm pretty sure this topic is discussed behind closed doors at Adobe regularly.

                                   

                                  They want to push users to CC, that's obvious. But there is a reasonable group of potential customers (like myself) who would buy a standalone Lr-release, cause they don't want the subscription - or in my case don't use Ps, making the costs for Ps/Lr-bundle unattractive.

                                  There is existing and upcoming competition in the market, offering standalone alternatives to Lr... so Adobe will calculate very carefully, how many potential customers they may loose to competition, when insisting on CC - or if it's worth releasing a standalone branch from the CC Lr every few years, to keep the standalone Lr only customers.

                                  And this decision may even change over time... cause the Lr core development is ongoing - so a standalone-spinoff is a manageable effort.

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                                    D Fosse Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                                    To be honest, I don't think they worry too much at Adobe HQ. Their user base has exploded exponentially since CC was introduced, and so has their profits. A lot of people go for this, like it or not.

                                     

                                    BTW the main competition, Capture One, is also subscription-based. They do still offer perpetual licenses, but maybe not for long. I'm sure they've noticed Adobe's success.

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                                      bob frost Level 3

                                      Agreed. I'm never, never, going to store all my images in the Cloud......   full stop. 

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                                        myopinion Level 1

                                        Adobe, as many other companies, should realize that the professional reputation sells millions of copies to amateurs. If the reputation goes south so does the revenue. Leaving the market space for an on-premises product will attract another player to fulfill this need. I am not a professional but I cannot see the attractiveness of shared cloud space. Disk cost is negligible and content creation is very resource intensive. Who would ever edit 60 meg images on a tablet or phone and move gigabytes of data daily between local storage and the cloud  as it was mentioned in prior posts.

                                        And that is before all issues of privacy protection where it has been proven time and again that major cloud providers are not  covered by the same laws that prevent government from accessing the data on your home computer

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                                          BugsysDad Level 1

                                          Did anyone bother to read the last line in that Nimbus introduction page?

                                           

                                          Adobe said: "One final thought… if you’re a Lightroom user with limited internet access or a dislike of cloud services, don’t worry… this is just a preview of a tool for the future. Lightroom development is carrying on as normal.

                                           

                                          Everyone here seems to be getting so annoyed about cloud storage.  If you are currently planning to subscribe or thinking about subscribing to the CC versions of Lightroom or Photoshop - you do not have to store your images in the cloud - they can remain on your own computer or hard drive.  It seems some of you are a bit confused about this.

                                           

                                          To the poster that said they would not spend the monthly subscription fee for the LR/PS bundle, since he or she does not use PS and it is a waste of money, my annual subscription cost is $127.32 which includes tax.  The stand-alone version of LR is currently $149.00 (not including sales tax). If you normally upgrade annually on the stand-alone version, it is actually cheaper to subscribe, even if you only end up using the LR module and not the PS module.

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                                            NicHamilton Level 3

                                            ...but BugsysDad, you wouldn't be buying the software new every year you'd be upgrading...which in the UK is £65 against the full price of £114 (I assume there's a similar reduction in the US and elsewhere).

                                             

                                            On top of that it's not even updated every year any more.  LR 6 is already over two years old so the subscription has already cost more than three times what the upgrade would have cost.

                                             

                                            At the moment I still use Photoshop CC but I really can't say that I think it's good value any more (not that much different to Photoshop CS6).  I'm finding it hard to see the reason for sticking with the CC plan once my current sub year ends (particularly if LR 7 does finally come along).

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                                            • 19. Re: Release of Lightroom 7?
                                              BKKDon Level 4

                                              dj_paige  wrote

                                               

                                              humu2nuku2   wrote

                                               

                                              I believe that there will not be a LR 7. They have changed to Creative Cloud, requiring a monthly subscription.

                                              Then why, please tell me, would they release Lightroom 6?

                                              I know that now in my region (SEA) Lightroom 6 is no longer available so I guess either a new version is imminent or LR 6 was the last standalone. But I see it is still available on the US site.

                                              • 20. Re: Release of Lightroom 7?
                                                dj_paige Level 9

                                                Does this link work for you? It works for me, and allows you to purchase LR 6.

                                                Adobe Checkout

                                                • 21. Re: Release of Lightroom 7?
                                                  BKKDon Level 4

                                                  dj_paige  wrote

                                                   

                                                  Does this link work for you? It works for me, and allows you to purchase LR 6.

                                                  Adobe Checkout

                                                  No that link redirects to: Creative Cloud pricing and membership plans | Adobe Creative Cloud

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                                                    dj_paige Level 9

                                                    Does not re-direct for me, perhaps you can try a different browser (I used Firefox)

                                                    • 23. Re: Release of Lightroom 7?
                                                      BKKDon Level 4

                                                      It is no big deal as the product doesn't appear on the SEA website so as soon as you click on it it redirects using the following URL: https://creative.adobe.com/join/redirect?countryCode=TH&items=%5B%7B%22offerId%22%3A%220A 5E0F7A7E9963C2C96ACDB90C734A3F%…

                                                       

                                                      I don't have FireFox but it happens in both Edge & Chrome.

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                                                        buttb70973188 Level 1

                                                        I have faith that there won't be a LR 7. They've altered to Creative Cloud, requiring a regular monthly subscription.

                                                         

                                                        Then why, please let me know, are they going to release Lightroom 6? Adobe Lightroom 6.10

                                                        • 26. Re: Release of Lightroom 7?
                                                          edwardd38896126 Level 1

                                                          And at a ridiculous price, If in future I can only do Cloud version , will be the end to Lightroom for me

                                                          • 27. Re: Release of Lightroom 7?
                                                            Simon G E Garrett Level 2

                                                            Lightroom development seems to have slowed down over the years.  I suspect that's not where Adobe is putting its development effort, and with many users (including me) now on CC, there's less motivation for them to develop it. 

                                                             

                                                            Below is a list of past LR major releases.  It's now 28 months since LR6 - the longest ever gap.  In addition there have been no improvements in basic raw processing since "Process 2012" with LR4, more than 5 years ago. 

                                                             

                                                            I'd like to think there's something wonderful waiting in the wings, but I'm not holding my breath.

                                                             

                                                                 

                                                            VersionDateApprox interval from previous release (months)New featuresSignificant global improvements in raw processing?
                                                            129/01/2007
                                                            229/07/200818Localised edits, 64-bit, better organisational tools, multiple monitors, better printing, "camera" profiles, DNG profiles.Yes
                                                            308/06/201022Much improved noise reduction and sharpening, publish services, improved luma noise reduction, point curve, lens correction and perspective control, basic video editing.Yes
                                                            405/03/201221"Process 2012" with much better shadow/highlight control, book creation, location-based organisation, improved local editing, extended video support, soft-proofing.Yes
                                                            509/06/201315Gradient and ellipse tools, advanced healing/cloning brush, smart previews, auto perspective control.No
                                                            621/04/201522HDR and panorama merge, performance improvement, facial recognition, filter brush. Dot-releases include guided upgright, boundary warp on panoramas, dehaze.No
                                                            Now16/08/201728
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                                                              saxman911 Level 1

                                                              Adobe has one Word on their agenda, SUBSCRITIONS!!   I do believe that light room six standalone will be the last one so it's your choice whether to own the final software or pay the bastards $9.95 + tax monthly with Photoshop. Which will probably go up in price down the road

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                                                                JimHess Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                                                                Personally, I think you're all wasting a lot of time speculating about something that you don't know or nobody else knows ANYTHING about. IF Adobe goes to subscription only you will find out when everyone else does. IF Lightroom 7 is released you will find out when everyone else does. In the meantime, why not just enjoy (or at least continue using) what you have now? It's not going to affect what you have now. You can continue using what you have now and accomplish everything that you can accomplish now. When Adobe finally reveals what they are going to do in the future everyone can make a choice about what they want to do. In the meantime, it isn't going to cost anyone anything. So my suggestion is for everyone to just stop speculating. It isn't doing anyone any good.

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                                                                  Simon G E Garrett Level 2

                                                                  Thing is, Jim, many people enjoy speculating.  The forums are full of speculation, much of it uninformed and some of it downright silly.  Few of us here know anything about Adobe's plans (and we all know that those that do know aren't going to join in any speculation) but that doesn't make it a waste of time to discuss what might be - for those that enjoy such discussion.  Perhaps "it isn't doing anyone any good", but it isn't doing anyone any harm either.