12 Replies Latest reply on Apr 11, 2017 5:42 PM by Kevin-Monahan

    stabilize camera drift?

    Steve Zeeeee Level 1

      I have some 4K concert footage from a pretty well stabilized camera.

      However, there is still some hand held drift.  What is the best stabilize

      technique for this situation I wonder?  Is there a way to "pin" the stage ?

      Can I confine the stabilizing to just a portion of the take?

       

      Thanks anyone.

        • 1. Re: stabilize camera drift?
          Dave LaRonde Level 6

          Unless it's really annoying -- and I mean REALLY bone-jarring annoying --  I'd just leave it alone and resolve to do a better job of shooting next time.

           

          Drifting, schmifting.  Not the end of the world.

          • 2. Re: stabilize camera drift?
            Roei Tzoref Adobe Community Professional

            What is the best stabilize technique for this situation I wonder?

            it depends entirely on the shot but read here Tracking and stabilization motion workflows in After Effects

             

            Is there a way to "pin" the stage ? Can I confine the stabilizing to just a portion of the take?

            yes, Warp Stabilizer VFX can do that, also traditional point tracking for stabilizing (Stabilize Motion)

            • 3. Re: stabilize camera drift?
              Rick Gerard Adobe Community Professional & MVP

              Are you trying to Warp Stabilize  or Stabilize Motion?  There is no stabilize camera. The technique and the requirements are completely different so please explain what you are trying to do.

              • 4. Re: stabilize camera drift?
                Steve Zeeeee Level 1

                I dont see how to send a clip from PPro to After Effects;

                no contextual menu, no regular menu?

                where is that please?

                i'm in 2017.0.2 v11.0

                this is from the tutorial, but I dont have it:
                Screen Shot 2017-03-24 at 3.33.27 PM.png

                and now this:

                Screen Shot 2017-03-24 at 4.07.16 PM.png

                • 5. Re: stabilize camera drift?
                  Peru Bob Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                  Are both AE and Premiere Pro the latest versions?

                  • 6. Re: stabilize camera drift?
                    Steve Zeeeee Level 1

                    yes thank you, according to CLOUD.

                     

                    AE   2017.1   v14.1.0.57

                    ppro  2017.0.2  v11.0

                    • 7. Re: stabilize camera drift?
                      Rick Gerard Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                      I'm still not clear on what you are trying to do. Warp Stabilizer will remove some camera movement and improve some shots but it doesn't work on everything. Concert footage with a crowd in front would be especially hard to effectively warp stabilize. You should also consider rendering each Warp Stabilized shot that you work on because if the shots are more than just a few seconds long your render times and your resource allocation will quickly increase to the point where you may start having crashes.

                       

                      A little better description of exactly what you are trying to accomplish and what the shots are like would help us point you to the most efficient solution.

                      • 8. Re: stabilize camera drift?
                        Dave LaRonde Level 6

                        I'm going to repeat what I wrote earlier.  After all this, it seems to be more applicable:

                         

                        "Unless it's really annoying -- and I mean REALLY bone-jarring annoying --  I'd just leave it alone and resolve to do a better job of shooting next time.

                         

                        Drifting, schmifting.  Not the end of the world."

                        • 9. Re: stabilize camera drift?
                          Steve Zeeeee Level 1

                          https://forums.adobe.com/people/Rick+Gerard  wrote

                           

                          I'm still not clear on what you are trying to do. Warp Stabilizer will remove some camera movement and improve some shots but it doesn't work on everything. Concert footage with a crowd in front would be especially hard to effectively warp stabilize. You should also consider rendering each Warp Stabilized shot that you work on because if the shots are more than just a few seconds long your render times and your resource allocation will quickly increase to the point where you may start having crashes.

                           

                          A little better description of exactly what you are trying to accomplish and what the shots are like would help us point you to the most efficient solution.

                           

                          I want 5 second sequences of the stage sets so i want them pretty well lined up

                          and not drifting out of the placement of where I have lined them up.  While I

                          appreciate the wisdom of a more serious filming approach, I am not a pro

                          shooting for clients.  I go and have fun and collect footage as the inspiration

                          compels me and I am happy to use these modern editing tools to finish out

                          the idea.  Ideally I would like to "pin" the stage stable.  Failing that,

                          well stabilized footage will suffice. 

                           

                          That said, my post #4 above explains that AE wont even let me stabilize

                          the original footage directly cuz of dynamic link malfunction.  Ideally I

                          prefer to move clips out of PPro to AE and back for this task. I dont

                          even have that option either as described in #4 above.

                           

                          Thank you folks for helping.

                          • 10. Re: stabilize camera drift?
                            Rick Gerard Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                            If you are trying to line up points on your footage so you can stack a bunch of them together you should be using motion stabilize not warp stabilize.

                            • 11. Re: stabilize camera drift?
                              Steve Zeeeee Level 1

                              stack vertical or stack horizontal?

                              horizontal means they will play in sequence.
                              Vertical just because it will be easier toline stuff up and then spread it out horizontal?

                              • 12. Re: stabilize camera drift?
                                Kevin-Monahan Adobe Employee

                                Hi Steve Zeeeee,

                                Were you ever able to motion stabilize your video images? Please let us know if our experts helped you solve the issue or if you still need help.

                                 

                                Thanks,
                                Kevin