7 Replies Latest reply on Apr 14, 2017 3:37 PM by Kevin-Monahan

    PickWhip Expression doesn't follow parent

    carolyneo79236725 Level 1

      Hi I'm new,

       

      I dragged a pick whip from one shape layer property to another (scale). I now have one box following the scale properties of another box (great!) but they scale in different directions... I tried aligning their anchor points which mostly works, but  this is odd to me because the when I make a parent/child relationship with overall layers, they follow the position and scale of the parent's anchor point, regardless of where the child's anchor point is.

       

       

      I tried to make a pick whip expression of the child object following the parent's anchor point to see if this would work as a quick fix, but now it flies off the screen.

       

       

      Any advice appreciated.

        • 1. Re: PickWhip Expression doesn't follow parent
          Mylenium Most Valuable Participant

          Start by zeroing out your group transforms and layer transforms before pickwhipping anything. shape layers have their own logic and it's necessary to be meticulous in these things or  you'll end up with a mess because groups within groups within groups can all have their own transform properties.

           

          Mylenium

          • 2. Re: PickWhip Expression doesn't follow parent
            carolyneo79236725 Level 1

            Thank you for responding. I'm confused what you mean by zeroing them out. Do you mean delete all keyframes? I am just confused as to why the child of a parent wouldn't automatically follow that parent's anchor point.

            • 3. Re: PickWhip Expression doesn't follow parent
              Rick Gerard Adobe Community Professional & MVP

              Scale and rotation are centered on anchor points. If the anchor point is on the left edge of one shape layer and on the right edge of another then they will scale in different directions when you tie only the scale properties with an expression. When tying shape properties together is is awfully easy to get the scale from Shape layer 1>Rectangle 1>Transform Rectangle 1>Scale tied to Shape layer 2>Transform Scale instead of Shape layer 2>Rectangle 2>Transform Rectangle 2>Scale.

               

              A screenshot of your composition with the modified properties of the layers revealed will tell us and probably even you exactly what is going on. Just select the layer press the u key twice and then Print Screen and paste to the forum. If you are on a Mac you'll have to press Shift+Ctrl/Cmnd+3 and drag the screenshot from the desktop to the reply field on the forum.

              • 4. Re: PickWhip Expression doesn't follow parent
                carolyneo79236725 Level 1

                I still think I pick whipped it correctly. Is there another property I'm supposed to link to the parent to get the child to scale in the same direction? Or do I really have to just manually line up their individual anchor points?

                 

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                • 5. Re: PickWhip Expression doesn't follow parent
                  Rick Gerard Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                  You have anchor points all over the place and scaling is going to be centered on those anchor points.

                   

                  What exactly are you trying to do? Explain that in detail and I can probably help you. This looks like an opportunity to use a group and scale the group rather than try to scale each individual element in the illustration.

                  • 6. Re: PickWhip Expression doesn't follow parent
                    carolyneo79236725 Level 1

                    I've learned from other forums that the child/parent relationship is different for individual shape properties, as in a child won't follow a parent's anchor point as it would when you affect the overall layer, it will always follow it's own anchor point. I've also learned that anchor points for individual shapes cannot be snapped to guides which is making everything increasingly difficult.

                     

                    I essentially want to build and animate assets (utilizing parent/child relationships) while retaining a constant stroke width on everything. That's all I'm trying to achieve.

                    • 7. Re: PickWhip Expression doesn't follow parent
                      Kevin-Monahan Adobe Employee

                      Hi CarolyneO,

                      Did you ever complete your animation? Did the advice you received here help at all? Let us know if you still need help.

                       

                      Thanks,
                      Kevin