9 Replies Latest reply on May 2, 2017 5:32 AM by Willi Adelberger

    2x A5 pages on A4 - confusing

    justsammiles Level 1

      Hey,

       

      I have made an A5 wedding invitation and want to print them side by side on an a4 sheet of paper then cut the sheet down the middle.

       

      I created an a4 artboard in illustrator and drew a centre line to use it as a guide for cutting.

       

       

      Once I printed the a4 page out the page and cut the page down the middle both a5 documents are off centre.

       

      I think this is because of the wheels on the printer that slightly crop the document to hold the page.

       

      Does anyone have a workaround or a template for 2x A5 pages on A4?

       

       

      Hope I explained it well enough.

       

      Best

        • 1. Re: 2x A5 pages on A4 - confusing
          Migintosh Level 4

          I think your explanation is correct. You will also find that the same page printed twice will have some amount of drift. The trick is to design your page so that the difference isn't as noticeable. Can you post a screen shot of your post card so we can make suggestions?

          • 2. Re: 2x A5 pages on A4 - confusing
            Derek Cross Level 6

            You created your document in Illustrator yet you post in the InDesign forum...

            If you have InDesign create the invitation in that, export it as a PDF using the Acrobat presets and selecting High Quality Print.

            You'll have to ensure your document design doesn't bleed and has sufficient margin so as to allow for "printer grip".

            • 3. Re: 2x A5 pages on A4 - confusing
              justsammiles Level 1

              Hi,

               

              Yes I created the document in illustrator and the reason I posted in the indesign forum is because I asked for a template or workaround with indesign .

               

              By eliminating the bleed should the centre line still be correct as a guide for cutting?

               

              Kind Regards

              • 4. Re: 2x A5 pages on A4 - confusing
                justsammiles Level 1

                Hey mate

                 

                thanks for the reply, I don't think I want to post screenshots online as they are kind of personal documents.

                 

                I like your suggestion as to trying to disguise it , but i think I want to try a more scientific or mathematical approach first as this has bothered me in the past.

                • 5. Re: 2x A5 pages on A4 - confusing
                  Eric Dumas Adobe Community Professional

                  Hi,

                  also, if you use an inkjet printer, you should consider that it takes a bigger margin at the bottom of the page (printed last) than at the top and often creates that off-center effect.

                  You might have to adjust your design to leave a 15mm margin at the 'top and bottom' of the page to balance for this.

                  • 6. Re: 2x A5 pages on A4 - confusing
                    Derek Cross Level 6

                    Your document's print area has to be within the maximum print area your printer can print, otherwise it will position the design off centre. Alternatively trim your document to a size that's less than A5 if, for example, you want to include bleed.

                     

                    Also have a look at having it printed by a commercial digital printer, it's dirt cheap nowadays!

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                    • 7. Re: 2x A5 pages on A4 - confusing
                      Migintosh Level 4

                      Here's something to think about. Have you ever tried to print on pre-cut or pre-perforated sheets, like mailing stickers? When I did it, I set up my template by measuring the sheet—how far down and over each sticker was. When I printed, it was off by a bit, so, if the image was a bit too low, I'd select all and nudge it up a bit and try the print again. After a few tries, I got it to where it was on target. You might want to see if you can do the same.

                      • 8. Re: 2x A5 pages on A4 - confusing
                        Bart Bossuyt - die Keure Level 1

                        you can work-around this by printing on a bigger sheet of paper (like A3) and cut it yourself.

                        not exactly environmentally-friendly but this will give you a nice print with the middle centered and no white borders.

                         

                        A steady hand would come in .... euh .... handy

                        • 9. Re: 2x A5 pages on A4 - confusing
                          Willi Adelberger Most Valuable Participant
                          1. There is always a shift of paper with any laser or ink printer.
                          2. Professional offset or digital wpinter serve better accuracy.
                          3. Workaround: Design slightly smaller, so you can cut every edge.
                          4. Don't use registration marks or any line, as these items will always be visible because of unaccuracy. It is enough to know where to cut and set the rule of the cutter to the exact position.
                          5. In Acrobat you have to take care that you don't fit to page in the print dialog.

                          Consider to print in a professional printer, or online printer, often cheaper than the laser printer on the long term.