4 Replies Latest reply on May 31, 2017 8:49 AM by gener7
      • 1. Re: Designers being paid (not)
        Nancy OShea Adobe Community Professional & MVP

        Those are really great renderings. 

        I especially like this remark too:

        "It's great exposure!" People die of exposure. Pay the artists.



        • 2. Re: Designers being paid (not)
          Brad Lawryk Adobe Community Professional & MVP

          https://forums.adobe.com/people/Nancy+OShea  wrote


          "It's great exposure!" People die of exposure. Pay the artists.



          Hahaha! Great line!

          • 3. Re: Designers being paid (not)
            Peru Bob Adobe Community Professional & MVP

            And on the subject of not wanting to pay for services:

            The Graybeard engineer retired and a few weeks later the Big Machine broke down, which was essential to the company’s revenue.  The Manager couldn’t get the machine to work again so the company called in Graybeard as an independent consultant.

            Graybeard agrees. He walks into the factory, takes a look at the Big Machine, grabs a sledge hammer, and whacks the machine once whereupon the machine starts right up. Graybeard leaves and the company is making money again.

            The next day Manager receives a bill from Graybeard for $5,000. Manager is furious at the price and refuses to pay. Graybeard assures him that it’s a fair price. Manager retorts that if it’s a fair price Graybeard won’t mind itemizing the bill. Graybeard agrees that this is a fair request and complies.

            The new, itemized bill reads….

            Hammer:  $5

            Knowing where to hit the machine with hammer: $4995

            from here:


            • 4. Re: Designers being paid (not)
              gener7 Adobe Community Professional & MVP

              Writer and blogger Mark Evanier wrote a two part essay on Unfinanced Entrepreneurs, as he calls them.




              Two nice points here from this post:


              Unfinanced Entrepreneurs exist because of a fiction about creative people, so widely believed that even some of us writers and artists accept it. The fiction is that writing and drawing are not assets…they are things we whip up out of thin air and which cost nothing to create. If someone steals your work from you, you can always bat out another for nothing.


              and as to the real value of your work:


              The man was horrified: "You expect me to pay you a hundred dollars for a half-hour's work?"

              Sergio* showed uncommon restraint — at least for Sergio. He calmly said, "You're not paying for the half-hour it took me to do the drawing. You're paying for the forty-one years it took me to learn how to do that."


              *Sergio Aragones of Mad Magazine fame.