6 Replies Latest reply on Jun 1, 2017 9:46 AM by agckent

    Lightroom exported Slideshow File size

    agckent

      I have just created my first slide show from Lightroom cc 2015.10 release.

      It contained 34 raw images, the original size of each image being approx. 27Meg.

      I chose High standard and  1080 (16:9) format.

      There was an mp3 music track included as background. The source MP3 music file was 12 Meg.

      The total file size of the exported MP4 was 896 Meg.

        34 slides x 27 Meg = 918. Adding  the 12 Meg music makes 930 Meg.

      So I assumed that 896Meg was the result of some slight efficiencies.

      But it is a massive file which, to upload to my website, according to my Filezilla, was going to take 2 hours.

       

      So I thought that if I first exported the 34  RAW 27Meg files as JPEGS and then used those JPEGS to make the slide show , I would significantly reduce the resulting MP4 slide show file size.

       

      As test, I had previously made a slide show of just 4 RAW files.

      So I exported those same  4 RAWs as  JPEGs and make a slide show of them.

       

      The resulting MP4 4-slide show file sizes were respectively

                  RAW 115MEG

                  JPEG  115MEG

      QUESTION 1; is it normal for the slide show file to be the same size regardless of whether composed of n x 27Meg RAW files or n x 0.5Meg JPEGs?

      QUESTION 2: is it efficient (file size wise) to make a slide show from original 6000 x 4000 Raw files ?

      QUESTION 3: Must I expect my exported slide shows of 34 slides to equal around 896 Meg if I want to show them on a large screen at 1080 (16:9) format?

      Any help or suggestions gratefully received.

       

        • 1. Re: Lightroom exported Slideshow File size
          davescm Adobe Community Professional

          Hi

          Question 1 - Yes the filesize is based on the output frames making up the 1080 video not the input

          Question 2. Makes no difference - the output is based on the chosen output size and framerate

          Question 3. Video filesize is based on pixel size in each frame, the amount of change in each frame (i.e. how much compression can be applied, the type of compression applied  and the number of frames per second so the same number of slides each played for twice as long will roughly double the size)

           

          Dave

          • 2. Re: Lightroom exported Slideshow File size
            agckent Level 1

            Thank you Dave, that is most informative.

             

            May I press the point and ask 2 more?

             

            My slides are static photos, not moving videos. Does Lightroom automatically reduce the frame rate to the duration of the slides (1 every 6 seconds) or does it run on 30 fps or some such thing?

            Does either Lightroom or Premier Pro allow be to make a 34-photo slide show at 1080 but at a much reduced file size than my reported 930Meg or is that about par for the course?

            • 3. Re: Lightroom exported Slideshow File size
              davescm Adobe Community Professional

              Hi

              Just for you   I exported a 34 slide video slideshow from Lightroom.

              I used 6 secs per slide and a 1 second crossfade. I used "standard" quality. I did not add any music. I exported at 1080p and opened the file in Premiere Pro to check the format.

              The file was at a constant framerate of 29.97 fps and lasted 4 minutes 0 seconds and 22 frames which included a fadeout to black at the end

              The size on disk was 417MB.

               

              I repeated the above using a set of slides with more fine detail (lots of trees very little sky) with the same settings as above.

              This time the file size was 502MB which was not as big an increase as I expected.

               

              Finally I repeated the last set but changed quality to high. This made no difference at all. The file size was still 502MB. It may make a difference when encoding to say jpeg rather than video - but to video no difference.

               

               

              You could use Premiere/Adobe Media encoder to encode the file differently but with Lightroom you are limited in the settings you can adjust.

               

              I hope that helps you

               

              Dave

              • 4. Re: Lightroom exported Slideshow File size
                agckent Level 1

                Dave, your a star!

                 

                Your experiment is much appreciated. It gives me a sense of proportion and saves me from having to do the same thing.

                 

                It is a big leaning curve. My 960 Meg mp4 looks great on my 34 Inch monitor running locally from my Surface Pro 2. I uploaded it to my   web site, using HTML 5 <Video> as the means of displaying it. Unfortunately it only runs for about  every 10 seconds before stopping whilst the data flow catches up. Mozart's "Elvira Madigan" loses is impact when played like that! I am now investigating whether it is my ISP, or the file itself, or my over expectation of HTML <video> or whether the hosting of  such a file can only practically done on a specialist site like Vimeo or YouTube.

                 

                Charles

                • 5. Re: Lightroom exported Slideshow File size
                  davescm Adobe Community Professional

                  Just a thought:

                   

                  If you have access to Premiere Pro - you could export the stills from Lightroom  and import then assemble them on the Premiere timeline. You will get a lot more control over the rendering options that way. Given that the stills have been captured at a higher resolution than the required output, you could also add interest by panning and zooming over the stills as the timeline progresses

                   

                  Dave

                  • 6. Re: Lightroom exported Slideshow File size
                    agckent Level 1

                    I did prepare a video in Premier Pro  , my one and only attempt so far . I blindly followed through the myriads of setup options of exporting to YouTube without really understanding why the author made is various choices. I shall follow your suggestion and hopefully gain some further insight. I tried Lightroom this time to see if was easy and effective.

                     

                    I have now uploaded my Adobe Lightroom Slide Show .mp4 file both to my website and to YouTube.

                     

                    On my web site , the code which places it is (Tags omitted) :-

                    video width="100%"  autoplay

                    source src= "images/corfu/corfu_VillaGeorge.mp4"

                    /video

                     

                    On youtube the video works flawlessly.

                    On my web site the video hangs every 15 seconds when played on my computer usIng Chrome, and the same happens on my neighbour's using Chrome and with his Firefox, does not get beyond the intro screen. When the tech support of my ISP run it, it works fine on their computers.

                     

                    I say all this because the moral, for a newbie like me, it seems, is to have faith that your video will work when prepared in Lightroom (which incidentally auto adds pan and zoom very effectively if you wish, and it auto times it to coincide with the length your sound track if you wish) proving you upload it to YouTube.

                     

                    It would none-the-less  be interesting to know why the HTML video code does not work in this instance.