4 Replies Latest reply on Jun 14, 2017 6:39 PM by raptor888

    Creating 2 new collections using the "make virtual copies" option - Tough problem.

    raptor88

      Using Lightroom 5.7.1 on a PC.  Assume I have 5 photos in a folder.

      1. I use shift-click to select all 5 photos.
      2. Then I create a new collection named "Black & White" and use "Include selected photos" and "Make virtual copies" options.
      3. I make all 5 photos in the "Black & White" collection, black & white.
      4. BUT NOW IN MY SOURCE "FOLDER" I HAVE 10 PHOTOS!  The original 5 photos plus 5 virtual copies in B&W.

       

      OK, now I want to make a second collection containing virtual copies of the original 5 photos for high dynamic colors.

      1. I can't use shift-click (as in step-1 above) to select the original 5 photos because doing that selects all 10 photos.  But I don't want virtual copies of the B&W photos in my second collection.

      So now I'm stuck at step-1 and cannot proceed to step-2.

       

      For only 5 photos, I could ctrl-click the original 5 photos and proceed to step-2.  But this is only an example.  In my real world, I might have 250 original photos.  It's too tedious to go through 500 images (250 original + 250 B&W) and ctrl-click the 250 original photos.

       

      Is there an easy way to select only the original 250 photos in step-1?

       

      ----- After a lot of thought, I figure that in my source FOLDER, I could stack the virtual copies of the photos with the original photos and end up with 250 images.  This would allow using shift-click to select the 250 original photos.  But I can't figure out how to stack the virtual B&W copies behind the original photos in an automated way.  Any way do do automated stacking of virtual copies behind the original photos? -----

        • 1. Re: Creating 2 new collections using the "make virtual copies" option - Tough problem.
          richardplondon Level 4

          You can use the Library filter bar to hide all but a subset of currently visible images (within a given folder or collection based view) according to various attributes of the images themselves. You can then highlight just those that remain visible.

           

          One such attribute is their "kind": whether they are virtual copies, or else master copies.

           

          It may be worth saving a couple of named user filter presets (say: "virtual only" / "master only") for the future; as well as another filter preset (say: "show all") which clears all such filtering.

           

          These presets can then be conveniently applied by name, on the fly, working from a drop-down menu at the right hand end of the Filmstrip - without needing to go back into the Filter bar again. You can set up whatever is most useful to your particular workflow.

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          • 2. Re: Creating 2 new collections using the "make virtual copies" option - Tough problem.
            raptor888

            richardplondon said:

            "You can use the Library filter bar to hide all but a subset of currently visible images (within a given folder or collection based view) according to various attributes of the images themselves. You can then highlight just those that remain visible.

            One such attribute is their "kind": whether they are virtual copies, or else master copies."

             

            Hi Richard.

            Thank you for your reply.  In LR 5.7.1 I don't see a "kind" attribute in the filter bar.  However, I did figure out a way to do what I needed using the star rating filter.

             

            The ratings in my source folder for my preferred photos was 5-stars.  In my B&W collection folder I set the star rating for all photos as 4-stars.  This also set the ratings for all of the virtual copies in the source folder as 4-stars.  Now filtering the source folder for 5-star ratings, all of the virtual copies are automatically stacked behind the original 5-star photos.  I was then able to create a second collection and create virtual copies of the original photos in it without any B&W virtual copies being imported into the second folder.

             

            Problem solved.  Thanks much for your quick reply .

            • 3. Re: Creating 2 new collections using the "make virtual copies" option - Tough problem.
              wobertc Adobe Community Professional

              To 'Hide' any virtual copies-

              1. Click on [Attributes]  on the filter bar and look at the "Kind" icon selectors-

              2. Click (to toggle 'on' ) the 'film' icon (the left of three) to show only "Master Photos"

              ScreenShot027.jpg

               

              Or likewise-  Click (to toggle 'on' ) the 'virtual copy' icon (the center of three) to show only "Virtual Copies"

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              • 4. Re: Creating 2 new collections using the "make virtual copies" option - Tough problem.
                raptor888 Level 1

                wobertc said:

                To 'Hide' any virtual copies-

                1. Click on [Attributes]  on the filter bar and look at the "Kind" icon selectors-

                2. Click (to toggle 'on' ) the 'film' icon (the left of three) to show only "Master Photos"

                ScreenShot027.jpg

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                Hi wobertc,

                 

                Oh, the "kind" filter is above the grid/loupe view panel.

                I was looking for the "kind" buttons below the grid/loupe view panel.

                 

                Thanks for posting your image as it helped me find the "kind" buttons.  And yes, clicking the left-most kind button does display only the Master Photos exactly as I need.

                 

                Thanks much,

                Raptor88