15 Replies Latest reply on Oct 5, 2017 7:26 AM by RM_Lund

    After Effects 2017 plugins problem (1114)

    grgart72 Level 1

      Hello,

      Couple months ago After Effects 2017 started to act very weird about 3rd party plugins.

      I started to get "plugin "name of plugin" could not be loaded (1114) (48:46)".

      Could not load older projects, on loading there was lot of (1114) errors and project could not be loaded.

      I tried to reinstall plugins, cleaned up nvidia driver compliantly and installed most recent but nothing helped.

      Noticed when setup project settings to Mercury Software only I was able to load older projects with no errors, but if I apply new plugin (particular for example) I get error.

      I got After Effects 2014 installed and there is no such issue with plugins at all.

      So for last few months I got stuck using 2014 version since its rock stable and I can't use new versions since I can't find solutions for plugins problem.

      Is there any suggestion how to solve this problem?

      Thank you.

       

      PC specs:

      Win10 Pro, CPU4770K, RAM32GB, GPUs 1080Ti and 3x780Ti, Dual display setup.

        • 1. Re: After Effects 2017 plugins problem (1114)
          Peru Bob Adobe Community Professional & MVP

          Are your plugins up to date versions compatible with AE 2017?

          • 2. Re: After Effects 2017 plugins problem (1114)
            HidekiTakemura Adobe Community Professional

            Hi,

             

            Would you specify the name and the version of the plug-ins? Trapcode Particular v2.6?

            • 3. Re: After Effects 2017 plugins problem (1114)
              grgart72 Level 1

              Yes, Trapcode 2.6 most recent.

              Its not due plugin since my college does not have that problem and I tried it on older laptop with nvidia 650M and no problem there.

              My guess is that its somehow GPU driver related.

              • 4. Re: After Effects 2017 plugins problem (1114)
                Szalam Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                What happens if you disable all of the GPUs except one?

                • 6. Re: After Effects 2017 plugins problem (1114)
                  Szalam Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                  What plugin, specifically, are you using that triggers the error?

                  • 7. Re: After Effects 2017 plugins problem (1114)
                    grgart72 Level 1

                    Any Red Giant, Particualar for example. Few months ago used Feather plugin from composit wizard on few layers, now I can't load that project. I was lucky to save project as CC13 on my college PC, so I can open it in AE2014.

                    • 8. Re: After Effects 2017 plugins problem (1114)
                      Szalam Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                      I would highly recommend contacting Red Giant's support on this issue. It's likely something they can help with. (Or at least something they should be aware of.)

                      • 9. Re: After Effects 2017 plugins problem (1114)
                        HidekiTakemura Adobe Community Professional

                        Hi,

                         

                        The cause might be the combination of the graphic cards. If you set the 780Ti cards disable temporarily, does After Effects become more stable?

                        • 10. Re: After Effects 2017 plugins problem (1114)
                          grgart72 Level 1

                          Its not only Red Giant, frischluft also have same problem.

                          All worked well until january 2017.

                          I noticed that I got same problem on laptop after updating win10 to creators edition, i had system backup so i restored system.

                          But on workstation problem started before and I can't find what started problems.

                          I guess I'll have to reinstall system in some point.

                          • 11. Re: After Effects 2017 plugins problem (1114)
                            Kevin-Monahan Adobe Employee

                            Hi grgart,

                            Did you ever get this issue with your plug-ins sorted out? Let us know if you are still having this trouble.

                             

                            Thanks,
                            Kevin

                            • 12. Re: After Effects 2017 plugins problem (1114)
                              RM_Lund

                              I'm also having this exact same problem since upgrading to AE CC 2017, and I'm still looking for a solution.

                               

                              This is the only workaround I've found so far:

                               

                              1. Move all 3rd party plug-ins out of the plugins folder.
                              2. Start After Effects and open the old project file. Without the plugins loaded, this will now work without errors (except missing plug-in warnings, of course).
                              3. Re-save the project.
                              4. Close After Effects and restore the plug-ins to the plug-in folder.
                              5. Restart After Effects.
                              6. Open the re-saved project file from step 3.

                               

                              This suggests to me that there's something going wrong when AE tries to convert the older file versions to the current version.

                               

                              Another weird thing is that if you try to open an old project and get the 1114 (48 :: 46) plug-in error, those plug-ins won't work at all for the rest of that session. If you try to apply them in a new project you get the "Invalid filter (25 :: 3)" error instead. Restarting After effects returns things to normal.

                              • 13. Re: After Effects 2017 plugins problem (1114)
                                g83726543

                                Did this ever get sorted out? I am having the same error with Magic Bullet Looks.

                                 

                                Its odd because sometimes a restart works sometimes it does not. Once the error is seen then a lot of plugins fail. Including Keylight.

                                 

                                This is so frustrating. I'm on W10 and a Nvidia GPU

                                • 14. Re: After Effects 2017 plugins problem (1114)
                                  Matteo Cassetta

                                  I have the same problem opening heavy projects, but same version of AE in my case.

                                  The last time it happened, the plugins were Videocopilot Element and Optical flares, but it also happened with some Sapphire suite plugin, and once with Neat Video reduce noise plugin.

                                  Same 1114 error.

                                   

                                  The problem also stacks with the system file open window, if after a succesful opening of an heavy project I try to import any file or if I open another project AE crashes.

                                  Drag and drop files works fine in that case.

                                   

                                  I'm still tracking the reason, but I found a workaround: after starting AE, I create a solid and I apply the troubled effects.

                                  Then I open my project and it works.

                                  If the plugins and the system file open window are applied to an empty project, the keep working until I close AE.

                                  It seems that somehow the application lacks the resources to load them for the first time if there's a big projects opened (or opening).

                                   

                                  Obviously I can work on the project, but I can't add new heavy plugins to it without preloading them in the starting workaround.

                                  I'm been able to work for 6-8 hours long sessions with the workaround, so it works fine.

                                   

                                  My PC specs:

                                  Win10 I7-6900K 64Gb 2xGTX1080-8G Dual Monitor

                                   

                                  Matteo

                                  • 15. Re: After Effects 2017 plugins problem (1114)
                                    RM_Lund Level 1

                                    Yeah those are the same plugins that usually cause issues for me as well, plus a few others. It's seems more or less random which plugins fail and when. Even after successfully loading a project, with those plugins working, eventually some other plugin will fail with the "invalid filter" error message. It could be one of the Trapcode plugs if I already have Element 3D applied in my project, for instance. And like g83726543 said, this even includes Keylight, which suggests this isn't just a 3rd-party-plugin-issue. I'm starting to think this has something to do with the graphics card/GPU, some kind of conflict or something. Whether it's a driver issue or an AE issue though, I don't know.

                                     

                                    Regarding your problem with AE crashing when opening an explorer window dialog box, I had that problem too. The culprit in my case was a deprecated file originally used by OneDrive called "grooveex.dll". Since the file apparently no longer serves any purpose, the solution was to remove the file altogether. Check out this post at Microsoft Community: What does grooveex.dll do exactly? - Microsoft Community

                                     

                                    Interesting workaround you've come up with! I'll have to give it a try and see if it works for me too. It sure would be a lot easier than moving plugins in and out of the plugin dirs and having to restart AE over and over.

                                     

                                    /Robert