5 Replies Latest reply on Jul 27, 2017 9:08 AM by aFatFish

    Indesign A5 Booklet Printing Issue - The booklet doesn't fit the current paper size.

    aFatFish Level 1

      Hi everyone,

       

      Using InDesign CC.

       

      I'm trying to print a booklet on to A4 paper. I'd like each page to be A5 size (A4 folded in half, landscape). Pages facing each other and double sided (my printer can do duplex printing).

       

      However, when i go to print booklet, the preview is all wrong - please see second screen grab below. If i export to PDF then try printing I get one page per entire A4 paper, not a booklet at all! How do i correct this? I've tried searching to solve my own issue, and either the solutions are back from CS2 era or simply don't work for me! :-(

       

      Thanks!

       

      Tommy

       

      Detailed Explanation:

       

      Document set up: Intent set to "print". Number of pages: 20. "Facing Pages" checkbox is ticked. Page size: A5. Orientation set to landscape. 0mm bleed and slug.

      doc set up.png

      When I go file --> print booklet, i get the following error:

      preview.png

       

      These are my print settings ("Print Settings" button in above image):

      print settings.png

       

      What on earth is going on? How can Indesign be this stupidly hard to use?

       

      Here's my Summary log info (from bottom option in the left hand menu from the above photo):

      Print Preset: [Custom]

      Printer: EPSON76B788 (ET-4550 Series)

      PPD: N/A

      PPD File: N/A

       

       

      Print Booklet

          Booklet Type: 2-up Saddle Stitch

          Auto Adjust Margins: On

          Top Margin: 0 mm

          Bottom Margin: 0 mm

          Left Margin: 0 mm

          Right Margin: 0 mm

          Space Between Pages: N/A

          Creep: 0 mm

          Bleed Between Pages: N/A

          Signature Size: N/A

          Print Blank Printer Spreads: On

       

       

      General

          Copies: 1

          Collate: Off

          Reverse Order: Off

          Pages: All

          Sequence: All Pages

          Spreads: Off

          Print Master Pages: Off

          Print Layers: Visible & Printable Layers

          Print Non-printing Objects: Off

          Print Blank Pages: Off

          Print Visible Guides and Baseline Grids: Off

       

       

      Setup

          Paper Size: A4 210 x 297 mm

          Paper Width: 210 mm

          Paper Height: 297 mm

          Page Orientation: Landscape

          Paper Offset: 0 mm

          Paper Gap: 0 mm

          Transverse: Off

          Scaling: 100%

          Constrain Proportions: On

          Page Position: Upper Left

          Thumbnails: Off

          Tiling: Off

       

       

      Marks and Bleed

          Crop Marks: Off

          Bleed Marks: Off

          Registration Marks: Off

          Colour Bars: Off

          Page Information: Off

          Printer Mark Type: Default

          Crop Mark Weight: 0.25 pt

          Mark Offset from Page: 2.117 mm

          Use Document Bleed Settings: On

          Bleed Top: 0 mm

          Bleed Bottom: 0 mm

          Bleed Inside: 0 mm

          Bleed Outside: 0 mm

          Include Slug Area: Off

       

       

      Output

          Colour: Composite RGB

          Text As Black: Off

          Trapping: Off

          Flip: None

          Negative: Off

          Screening: Default

          Simulate Overprint: Off

          Frequency: 70

          Angle: 45

       

       

      Graphics

          Send Data: Optimised Subsampling

          Download: Subset

          Download PPD Fonts: On

          PostScript®: Level 2

          Data Format: Binary

       

       

      Colour Management

          Document Profile: sRGB IEC61966-2.1

          Colour Handling: Let InDesign Determine Colours

          Printer Profile: Document RGB - sRGB IEC61966-2.1

          Preserve RGB Numbers: Off

          Proof Profile: Document CMYK

          Simulate Paper Colour: On

       

       

      Advanced

          Print &as Bitmap: Off

          Bitmap Resolution: 300

          OPI Image Replacement: Off

          EPS: Off

          PDF: Off

          Bitmap Images: Off

          Transparency Flattener Preset: [Medium Resolution]

          Ignore Spread Overrides: Off

        • 1. Re: Indesign A5 Booklet Printing Issue - The booklet doesn't fit the current paper size.
          Bill Silbert Adobe Community Professional

          A job like this would not need to be printed using the booklet feature. It can be printed using InDesign's regular Print dialog box.

          See screen shot below:

          PRINT.png

          In the general tab make sure that spreads is chosen (first picture above). In the setup tab (second picture) choose the A4 paper size and orient it landscape. Also choose center alignment. The Duplex settings will depend on your Printer but should be able to be accessed through the Printer button on the bottom of the dialog box. Once into your Printers dialog there should be a Printers Features option which should in turn provide the Duplex option. When you’ve chosen all of the options then you should be able to send it to print.

          Please note that with Duplex printing you will have to make sure that you’ve set the job up in printer spreads including having the front and back cover on a spread together in order for all of the pages to come out correctly.

          All of this being said I must warn you that jobs are not usually printed out to size like this. Printers are not able to print right to the edge and so unless everything has a comfortable margin from the edges content may be lost. The usual process is to print a job on paper larger than the trim size using crop marks and bleed and then having the job cut to size.

          • 2. Re: Indesign A5 Booklet Printing Issue - The booklet doesn't fit the current paper size.
            rob day Adobe Community Professional & MVP

            What on earth is going on? How can Indesign be this stupidly hard to use?

             

             

            When you impose a booklet you obviously have to print spreads. Your A5 landscape 2-page spread would be 420mm (16.6") and that spread will not fit on A4 paper, which is 297mm (11.7"). You would need at least tabloid size paper to impose 2-up printer spreads.

             

            Screen Shot 2017-07-27 at 11.30.54 AM.pngScreen Shot 2017-07-27 at 11.31.59 AM.png

             

            Or you would have to design the booklet as portrait, which will fit on A4:

             

            Screen Shot 2017-07-27 at 11.30.19 AM.png

            • 3. Re: Indesign A5 Booklet Printing Issue - The booklet doesn't fit the current paper size.
              rob day Adobe Community Professional & MVP

              Please note that with Duplex printing you will have to make sure that you’ve set the job up in printer spreads including having the front and back cover on a spread together in order for all of the pages to come out correctly.

              Even if FatFish arranges the pages as printer spreads, the spreads will not fit on an A4 sheet. Print Booklet feature is there so you don't have to set up a document as printer spreads, which would create all sorts of design problems.

              • 4. Re: Indesign A5 Booklet Printing Issue - The booklet doesn't fit the current paper size.
                Bill Silbert Adobe Community Professional

                https://forums.adobe.com/people/rob+day  wrote

                 

                Please note that with Duplex printing you will have to make sure that you’ve set the job up in printer spreads including having the front and back cover on a spread together in order for all of the pages to come out correctly.

                Even if FatFish arranges the pages as printer spreads, the spreads will not fit on an A4 sheet. Print Booklet feature is there so you don't have to set up a document as printer spreads, which would create all sorts of design problems.

                OOps. I had it in my head that he was printing the A5s portrait on the sheet.

                • 5. Re: Indesign A5 Booklet Printing Issue - The booklet doesn't fit the current paper size.
                  aFatFish Level 1

                  urrrgghhhhh of course. Not indesign being stupid; it's me. Thank you!