8 Replies Latest reply on Sep 20, 2017 7:11 PM by Bill Gehrke

    Premiere and the new Intel i9 processors

    RexRed Level 1

      Will Premiere and After Effects be able to make use of 18 cores (36 core multi-threaded) 64 bit processors?

       

      If not, then this should be a huge priority for the developers to tackle... Dropped frames and sluggish performance when working on multi layered projects seems to limit most projects I work on these days. The programs slow to a halt if you have more than one two layers playing at once (at least on my rig) even when the playback is set to 1/4 this does not help overcome this processor bottleneck.When I link an edited file from After Effects to Premiere it is even much worse...

       

      I use Prodad effects and those also are processor hungry.

       

      All of my projects are on hold because my processor is just too slow to work with several layers at once. We need multi-processor load balancing ASAP Adobe.

       

      It will be terrible if I purchase an Intel 18 core processor and Adobe has not caught up to utilize the new processor count.

       

      As it is my processor fan winds up at the slightest use of Premiere and the performance is remarkably abysmal.

       

      I do only have a 4 core, 64 bit un-threaded Intel processor, I need some serious horsepower and 4 more cores are just not going to cut the mustard.

        • 1. Re: Premiere and the new Intel i9 processors
          John T Smith Adobe Community Professional & MVP

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          • 2. Re: Premiere and the new Intel i9 processors
            Meg The Dog Adobe Community Professional

            RexRed  wrote

            All of my projects are on hold because my processor is just too slow to work with several layers at once.

            Have you considered using a proxy workflow?

             

            MtD

            • 3. Re: Premiere and the new Intel i9 processors
              Ann Bens Adobe Community Professional & MVP

              Dont think proxy will help with Prodad plugins.

              • 4. Re: Premiere and the new Intel i9 processors
                R Neil Haugen Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                I found going from four to six cores an immense lift, and then from the 970 to 1060/6Gb another major lift. Running 32GB of new RAM also. All on internal SSD drives, though your AE work would push this. Just as a comparison.

                 

                Neil

                • 5. Re: Premiere and the new Intel i9 processors
                  RexRed Level 1

                  Thank you for the great tech support here peeps!

                   

                  I will probably upgrade to the Intel 18 core i9 and wait 'til the software catches up to it.

                   

                  It will definitely be an improvement to what I have now, even with my 500GB SSD the PC performance leaves much to be desired.

                   

                  What does Premiere benefit from the most? I am sure it is an "all of the above" type of thing to prevent bottlenecks.

                   

                  Also with 18 cores it would be nice to be able to still use my PC for other things while rendering out a project.

                   

                  Rendering should definitely make use of many cores...

                   

                  Playback while meshing layered effects? Boggles my mind... Is it GPU or CPU intensive?

                   

                  A pre-made (I don't build them anymore, just upgrade) i9 PC will come with the latest GPU and tons of ram...

                   

                  The GPU and CPU will theoretically be the fastest the market has to offer... So 64GB ram?

                   

                  This will probably be overkill if Adobe is not ready to make use of the CPU's... But my Cakewalk Sonar music software with "load balancing" makes use of 88 cores!

                   

                  I will look into this "proxy workflow" aspect too, thanks for the suggestion... Will look it up on YouTube. If you can link me to a tutorial on proxy workflows please do. I do not like pre-rendering clips because it is destructive and going back to tweak things becomes a hassle... but, if it would free up some headroom then that may be my only workaround at this point.

                   

                  Any more advice on this topic is greatly appreciated!

                  Again thanks for the tips peeps!

                  • 7. Re: Premiere and the new Intel i9 processors
                    R Neil Haugen Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                    Best place for the real tech advice on PrPro/AfterEffects & hardware is the Hardware forum ...

                     

                    https://forums.adobe.com/community/premiere/hardware_forum

                     

                    And of course, Bill Gehrke's PPBM page, the "Tweaker's Page it used to be called ...

                     

                    http://ppbm8.com/index.html

                     

                    Bill has a zipped project you can download & run ... with several system monitors included ... just load it, run an export, and it gets real-time data logs on every subsystem of your computer that can be compared with every other test run on any computer. Awesome data on what actually works.

                     

                    Bill is very active on the Hardware forum ... also Jeff Pulera (safeharbor11), who works for a company of that name buildlng rigs to spec. And Roninedits, a number of other very experienced people at editing and hardware.

                     

                    Neil

                    • 8. Re: Premiere and the new Intel i9 processors
                      Bill Gehrke Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                      Thank you Neil

                       

                      @ RexRed:  :There are good scores with my Premiere Pro BenchMark (PPBM) with 18 core Xeon's and I have one Theadripper 16 core score for you to see on the CPU page of my web site.  It is interesting to see cost effectiveness AMD has to offer.  Now of course not all Premiere and AE software modules have great multithreading but with the CPU intensive test of the benchmark it uses all the threads that you can throw at it.  There is an upper Windows limit that you can see from the result of one poor soul that invested in two 18-core Xeon's and only was able to use one of the two CPU's.  If you do go Intel please test with the benchmark to give us a new reference point with two additional cores and the 4.4 GHz clock it will probably be very close to 100 seconds with my CPU benchmark test, it will definitely be the fastest PPBM CPU  score!

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