5 Replies Latest reply on Oct 6, 2017 2:06 AM by mattolsen.nz

    'Shake' in final composition, but not within pre-comp?


      Hi all,


      Hoping this will be a simple answer, and apologies if it's been asked before -


      I have an image sequence (series of photos take in a timelapse) that I've applied stabilisation to. That footage is then pre-composed within another composition, and I've applied another pass of stabilisation to that pre-composition to make sure it's rock solid. When previewing the composition containing the pre-comped original footage, everything is steady, however when I move the same composition into my 'final' composition and preview that, it shakes around! Going crazy trying to work out what's going on! Does anyone have any advice?


      To map out the compositions:


      Final overall composition (no stablisation applied to intermediate composition at this level) - when previewing at this level, the footage shakes about?


      Intermediate Composition (stabilisation applied - anchor points keyframed) - when previewing at this level everything is steady


      Composition with footage (stabilisation applied - anchor points keyframed)



        • 1. Re: 'Shake' in final composition, but not within pre-comp?
          Dave LaRonde Level 7

          Apparently there's some reason you don't want to use Warp Stabilzer, correct?

          • 2. Re: 'Shake' in final composition, but not within pre-comp?
            mattolsen.nz Level 1

            Hi Dave - I needed slightly more precise control than warp stabiliser gave. The warp stabiliser sometimes moved the footage where movement in my timelapse was interpreted as shake (eg clouds moving..)


            The thing that's seems strange is that the preview of the comp is steady where the same comp loaded inside another composition appears shaky?

            • 3. Re: 'Shake' in final composition, but not within pre-comp?
              Rick Gerard Adobe Community Professional & MVP

              If you are using Motion Stabilize and you have a really good decent sized area of detail, or better yet 2 of them if you have any rotation in your footage, then a single pass with Motion Stabilize and cropping to fix the edge problem should be all you need. Running a second Stabilize Motion is not going to give you any better results. The way to fix tracking errors is to manually adjust frames or more often than adjusting, just delete a couple of keyframes.


              If you insist on running Motion Stabilize twice there is really no need to nest the second comp in a new one. You can just add your additional elements to the same comp. Also, turning on Collapse Transformations may lead to some odd behavior. I would have to check it out.


              The biggest problem with stabilizing time lapse happens when there are inconsistencies in exposure and detail level between shots. The default detail area, the inner box, is way too small for most tracking jobs. That may be part of your problem. I've never not been able to get a perfectly motion stabilized shot in one pass with a single pass. I've had to make some adjustments, but perfection is pretty easy to achieve if you have a significant amount of consistent detail in a shot. The default detail area is way too small for most footage.


              A screenshot with the modified properties of your layers showing would help. Just press uu, PrintScreen and Paste to the forum or drag a screenshot from it's folder.

              • 4. Re: 'Shake' in final composition, but not within pre-comp?
                Kevin-Monahan Adobe Employee

                Hi mattolsen.nz,

                Sorry for this issue. Did you ever find a solution? Please let us know if you have or if you still need help.




                • 5. Re: 'Shake' in final composition, but not within pre-comp?
                  mattolsen.nz Level 1

                  Thanks all. I still don't quite understand why I was experiencing the problem I had (there was no shake in pre-comp, but there was shake in the main comp that pre-comp was loaded in to), but I solved the problem by running a motion stabilize pass directly to the footage, and then a warp stabilize using the 'No Motion' setting to the pre-comp.