9 Replies Latest reply on Dec 30, 2017 4:26 PM by pixxxel schubser

    Creating a selection from multiple pen paths

    jdxs Level 1

      I am using Photoshop CC 2018.

       

      I have just spent a long time creating meticulous separate multiple pen paths in the expectation that I could make a single selection from them. I saved each path as created.

       

      It seemed like a logical thing to try with the new curvature pen tool that makes creating pen paths so much easier.

       

      However, I can find no way to make a single selection from these paths. I have spent several frustrating hours and tried everything I can think of without any success. I have found no solutions online.

       

      I have just one layer and 25 paths. If I shift-click the paths, they appear on the layer and I can select all the paths using the Path Selection Tool and drawing around them. If I turn off the visibility of the layer I see all the paths.

       

      I just can't turn them into a selection...

       

      Anyone know of a solution?

        • 1. Re: Creating a selection from multiple pen paths
          macpawel Adobe Community Professional

          Try this.

           

          Go to Paths panel

          Press CTRL/Cmd key on your Keyboard and click thumbnail of yours first path - it should load selection based on clicked Path.

          Then

          Still hold CTRL/Cmd key pressed and press Shift key and click second, third, ect. thumbnail of your paths (shift key adding new selection to the first one)

           

          Just ctrl/cmd + Shift click on all thumbnails of yours path to load selection.

           

          You can use this method to load any selection from path, layer, mask, channel you want

           

          pawel

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          • 2. Re: Creating a selection from multiple pen paths
            Trevor.Dennis Adobe Community Professional (Moderator)

            You can also combine multiple paths

            By copying a path with Ctrl c, and pasting to another path with Ctrl v

            You can then copy in one go by Ctrl clicking the path

             

             

            But most of us would use Pawel's method of Shift clicking to add to the selection.

             

            BTW  You can merge the paths from the Path operations pull down.  If you copy to a new path, then you still have the original.

             

             

             

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            • 3. Re: Creating a selection from multiple pen paths
              c.pfaffenbichler Level 8
              But most of us would use Pawel's method of Shift clicking to add to the selection.

              Or simply create one Path with all the subPaths right away instead of 25 Paths.

               

              Another issue I wonder about: Why a Selection instead of a Vector Mask? Is selective blurring necessary?

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              • 4. Re: Creating a selection from multiple pen paths
                jdxs Level 1

                Thanks so much for the 'solution'.

                 

                I did try this - and numerous other methods from my general experience of how Photoshop works. But nothing worked.

                 

                But I now think I have an unusual situation - which led to me thinking that the general solution does not work.

                 

                The basic shape I am trying to cut out is a complicated ladder - plus some other accessories - but let's stick with the ladder.

                 

                I first traced around the outside and inside up to the first rung. I'm not sure how, but I then added the space between the second and third rung. I saved the path. Let's call this path 1. Then I was unable to add the third space to path one without replacing it. So I created a new path and saved it as path 2. And so on....

                 

                I use cmd-enter on path 1. A selection is made. I use cmd-shift-click on path 2 and path 1 is no longer selected. BUT, If I do not include path 1, then everything works as expected..! As soon as path1 is added to the mix, it replaces whatever else has been added to the selection.

                 

                Here are images of path 1; path 2; path 3; paths 1 through 15 after clicking on path 1 and then shift-clicking on path 15; paths 1-15 after drawing around them with the path selection tool. In all cases, the image has been disabled to make it clearer.

                 

                Screen Shot 2017-12-30 at 10.28.09 AM.png

                 

                Screen Shot 2017-12-30 at 10.29.03 AM.png

                 

                Screen Shot 2017-12-30 at 10.29.46 AM.png

                 

                Screen Shot 2017-12-30 at 10.30.18 AM.png

                 

                Screen Shot 2017-12-30 at 10.32.15 AM.png

                 

                So what's different about path1? Does the fact that it is composed of two separate paths make it behave differently?

                 

                Yes, I know, dump and recreate it and move on..!

                 

                But I would like to understand what is occurring - and be able to avoid it in future - if someone has an explanation.

                 

                Many thanks again...

                • 5. Re: Creating a selection from multiple pen paths
                  jdxs Level 1

                  Perhaps an image of the first two paths in the paths panel would be helpful:

                   

                  Screen Shot 2017-12-30 at 12.35.07 PM.png

                  • 6. Re: Creating a selection from multiple pen paths
                    jdxs Level 1

                    It's OK... i came to my senses (I hope) and realized that, in the first path I was putting a path around the ladder and, in subsequent paths was selecting the gaps between rungs rather than the rungs...! And expected PS to figure out I was trying to mix oranges and apples...

                     

                    But I've learned a lot about paths and path manipulation in the process and apologize for leading you along a false path - if you will excuse the pun...!

                     

                    Pawel provided what should have been the correct process.

                    • 7. Re: Creating a selection from multiple pen paths
                      Trevor.Dennis Adobe Community Professional (Moderator)

                      c.pfaffenbichler  wrote

                       

                      Another issue I wonder about: Why a Selection instead of a Vector Mask?

                      Yes, good point. 

                      • 8. Re: Creating a selection from multiple pen paths
                        Trevor.Dennis Adobe Community Professional (Moderator)

                        OK I see where you are going with this.  An approach I would generally take is to create the workpath perpendicular to the image boundaries. I'm sure you are OK with this bit, but make the outer rectangle with the Rectangular Shape tool set to Path, and Path Operations set to Combine.  Then hit the escape key and change Path operations to Subtract before making the cutouts.  The Grid is turned on for this stage.

                        Then Free Transform Warp to shape the path

                        Use FT > Perspective before FT > Warp to get that closer spacing into the distance affect.  You can use multiple FT steps to build and shape your path, and being vector, you never loose quality, and you always have the points that can be edited.

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                        • 9. Re: Creating a selection from multiple pen paths
                          pixxxel schubser MVP & Adobe Community Professional

                          Trevor.Dennis and c.pfaffenbichler

                          I'm the same opinion - easier and WYSIWYG

                          Paths and shapes and (paths/shapes in) vector masks does have the same "combining modes" means path operations in dropdown menu. Always available if you draw (or have select) a shape or a path.

                           

                           

                          jdxs

                           

                          For example:

                          Draw your first vector shape in a vector mask (mode New Layer)

                           

                          (Of course, you can also use shape layers. But in the newer PS versions you do not see the vectors so nice as here in the vector mask.)

                          vectorMask0.png

                           

                          draw additional shapes in the same vector mask (mode Combine Shapes)

                          vectorMask1.png

                           

                          draw the overlapping shapes (you can do this directly in the same vector massk in mode Exclude Overlapping Shapes, but in this example I use a new art layer with different color and with a new shape in mode New Layer in it's own vector mask for later c&p)

                          vectorMask2.png

                           

                           

                          complete this shape/vector mask (mode Combine Shapes)

                          vectorMask3.png

                           

                           

                          - select this combined shape with the Black Arrow Tool and cut [Strg]+[X]

                          - hide the "green" layer and activate the vector mask of the "red" layer

                          - paste [Strg]+[V]

                          - after than choice mode Exclude Overlapping Shapes from drop down menu (while the pasted shapes are still selected)

                          vectorMask4.png

                           

                           

                           

                           

                           

                          Done

                          vectorMask5.png

                           

                           

                          Have fun

                           

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