3 Replies Latest reply on Feb 2, 2018 11:47 PM by johnrellis

    External Editors and Collections

    Mananog

      I'm using Lightroom Classic CC v. 7.1 for Mac. Previously, when I edited an image from a collection in an external editor, the output image from the external editor would be added to the same collection. A stack would be created with the original RAW file and the new tiff. Recently while editing some photos, I opened them from Lr in various external apps (Photoshop, ColorEfex, PortraitPro) and these generated new tiff versions that were stacked with the original files in the collection as expected. However, when I closed Lr and then reopened it, only the originals are now in the collection. None of the edited files are listed (I checked different filters as well as with filters off). If I go to the publish service in the Develop module, I can see the edited tiffs that I published in there. If I navigate to the folder where the originals were imported in Finder, I can see the edited tiffs in there too. However if I go to the collection in the navigation sidebar, only the RAW files are visible, there is no stacking badge and the edit history does not reflect that it was opened in an external editor.

       

      Is this a change to handling files from external editors and how can I revert it to the previous behaviour?

        • 1. Re: External Editors and Collections
          johnrellis Most Valuable Participant

          I'm not able to reproduce this behavior.  LR 7.0 had some bugs with stacking and export, but these were supposedly fixed in 7.1.  It would be great if you could make a full-resolution screen video of the exact steps you take to make this occur, and then file a bug report in the official Adobe feedback forum: Lightroom Classic CC | Photoshop Family Customer Community

          • 2. Re: External Editors and Collections
            Mananog Level 1

            I tried it again and I was also not able to reproduce it with the steps above. However it happened again yesterday and I have discovered that it is the act of importing new images to a collection rather than closing and reopening Lr which causes the issue.

             

            So here are the steps:

            • I rate my images to filter them for editing. I rate the ones that I want to edit at 4 stars and then set a filter for ≥4 stars. Everything else is rated at 2 or 3 stars and is therefore not visible any more.
            • I do some basic Lr edits on the filtered photos.
            • I open each in an external editor, editing a copy with Lr adjustments. (in this case Portrait Pro, in my previous case it was Photoshop CC or ColorEfex). When the image is saved and I am back at Lr, the new copy is in my collection stacked with the original and has inherited the original's 4 star rating.
            • I rate the original at 3 stars to remove it from my filtered view.
            • When I'm finished, most but not all of the images from the collection with 4 stars are the externally edited copies.
            • I import a new set of photos to the same collection. These are unrated and so I do a rating pass on this import as before.
            • I set a filter for ≥4 stars and now, I can only see the most recent import and any of the previous import that were not edited in an external editor. None of the externally edited images are visible.
            • No matter which filter I set (or no filter), I cannot see my externally edited images in this collection.
            • I go to my Smart Collection and see that the externally edited images are visible in there. I select them all and the context menu gives me the option to add them to my target collection (I have previously made my current collection the target collection). This is only possible if the images are not already in that collection. If they were, the context menu would give me the option to remove them from my target collection instead.

            I can reproduce this 100% of the time.

            • 3. Re: External Editors and Collections
              johnrellis Most Valuable Participant

              For others reading this, the conversation is continued in the official Adobe feedback forum: Lightroom Classic: External Editors and Collections | Photoshop Family Customer Community . Please don't reply here.