16 Replies Latest reply on Nov 12, 2018 2:15 PM by Cacogen

    Adobe, when will you give us Creative Cloud on Ubuntu/Linux?

    barneyw37147761 Level 1

      This has been going on years. It makes me angry that a company with such a monopoly in this market is being so lazy and greedy.

       

      You've clearly got the market need.

       

      Please provide a clear route to at least Photoshop on Linux. Ideally the whole CC suite.

       

      I truly believe your lack of action will be the end of your dominance. I hope so, anyway.

       

      This isn't fair and you are showing a lack of care to your loyal fanbase.

       

      This ruins your brand, for me. As soon as a decent alternative for Photoshop comes along, I will jump ship.

        • 1. Re: Adobe, when will you give us Creative Cloud on Ubuntu/Linux?
          John T Smith Adobe Community Professional & MVP

          As you say, Linux has been requested for years - Cloud on Linux https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1057800

           

          My opinion (I don't work for Adobe) is If you must use Linux, you are going to have to use different programs

          • 2. Re: Adobe, when will you give us Creative Cloud on Ubuntu/Linux?
            barneyw37147761 Level 1

            It seems we will need to find alternatives - but it makes me very angry at Adobe that I either need to change apps or change OS's for their whim.

             

             

            I use Linux because I'm a front-end programmer. I'm also a web designer that need Adobe.

             

             

            They have been ignoring the needs of the users for the long-term.

            • 3. Re: Adobe, when will you give us Creative Cloud on Ubuntu/Linux?
              kev.lee.wright Level 1

              I'd also like to add my vote for this oft-requested feature, and add some further clarification.

               

              I am currently a subscriber to the full creative-cloud suite. I'm also a designer, a software engineer, and am often described as a "full stack" developer... Truly "full" stack given that I'll also work with UI/UX and artistic assets.

               

              I use Linux, extensively, it would be my OS of choice for all seasons if not prevented by certain software not being available.  Specifically CC, keynote and omnigraffle.  So when I see official replies like this, it makes me want to weep:

              Again, we've done the research.  The profits aren't there -- very few Linux users are willing to pay for commercial software.  And the cost of entry is still high because of the fragmented Linux landscape.

              Because it's the wrong research.  This isn't a request to make CC available to a new market of existing Linux users.  It's a request to make it available on a better platform to existing, paying, CC subscribers.  Many of us gave up on Windows long ago for various reasons, and macOS is just getting worse and worse with each new release.  They're both poor choices for various reasons, and I'd happily give them both up if not otherwise tethered.

               

              It feels like my hand is being forced by Adobe here, I'm being made to use a system I'd rather not.  Sooner or later someone will produce Linux alternatives to the CC suite apps that I use that are good enough against a background of macOS becoming increasingly unbearable.  When the pain of using an inferior OS outweighs the pain of using an inferior app.  On that day I'll be jumping ship... simply because Adobe was so myopic as to obsess about a growth strategy without also considering what's needed to retain existing customers.

               

              I wonder how many other existing, paying, users feel the same way?  How many others are in the same boat (and potentially willing to jump from it)?

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              • 4. Re: Adobe, when will you give us Creative Cloud on Ubuntu/Linux?
                VkonArch Level 1

                In the past, I put several studios I cooperated with, to go with the Adobe platform for the support on the heavier visuals we were producing. However, when we went further independent (building up for TV Series & Films), we remained on the security and stability of Linux, which is vital for projects of this state. Everything we once suffered with on OSX and crashed crazily on Windows, remained rock solid on Linux. Now we run everything on that OS.

                 

                More recently I worked with a director, who used OSX & his blood pressure was through the roof with crashes - while my alternatives (building content for him) suffered ZERO on my Linux stations.

                 

                For that reason, the stations we're working on have switched to BMD (BlackMagic)and they have now become the platform we started suggest to people and companies we work with. Guess what, some are already starting to listen.

                 

                Besides, there are unified architectures to handle the "fragmented" Linux region. They are called Snap Packs & App Images. The kernels and drivers are pretty much a point of reference for all distros out there. From there on, everything else is simply symbolic links and directory placements. For example, every application that runs on Ubuntu, I can use on Arch - or applications that run on Fedora can be transformed and installed on Ubuntu (using Alien for example).

                 

                Conclusively, once the application becomes available for one distribution, the rest of the community will make it available for the rest. So, even the "fragmented Linux landscape" does not stand as a case.

                 

                My guess would be that Adobe is happy with the marketing data they receive from Microsoft & Apple (who are essentially spying on the respective systems), to move toward a platform that is secure and stable.

                 

                • 5. Re: Adobe, when will you give us Creative Cloud on Ubuntu/Linux?
                  Peferling Level 4

                  Linux is the way.  Like everything else, you have to research and learn how to do things to make it work. Even going as far as relearning new tools that happen to be free. For this reason, Windows and Mac will always win.  Even if it's users face an onslaught of issues, they're simply too lazy to consider the alternative that is dressed in overalls and looks like work.

                   

                  Win and Mac are losing it's edge.  If you want simple plug and play with full support, you'll have to pay.  If the OS is free, then you surrender your data in exchange.  Windows 7 was the pinnacle of MS, being the most stable in my 30 years of experience. I think it's becoming hard for companies to find programmers with critical thinking skills.  Many are retiring.  The forums are rife with complaints about poor support, the things we've come to expect with paying. All support is nothing more than someone reading back a script.  My experience has been good.  However, it's a systems approach and I'm on the fence with Win 10. 

                   

                  Linux is supported by a massive community of critical thinkers.  However, it doesn't always mean privacy or security.  There is none.  However, the software is dirt cheap or free, with little to no support.  Thus the  price is picking up a manual and a learning curve.

                  • 6. Re: Adobe, when will you give us Creative Cloud on Ubuntu/Linux?
                    kev.lee.wright Level 1

                    The good news here is that - for video work at least - there is an alternative on the market that is available for Linux, and in many ways is better than PPro - with far fewer bugs and performance issues.  It also has a free version available and doesn't tie you to a subscription.

                     

                    Ladies and gentlemen, I give you.... DaVinci Resolve:

                     

                    https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/uk/products/davinciresolve/

                     

                    As a Photoshop/Illustrator alternative, I recommend campaigning Serif to port Affinity Photo and Designer.  I suspect that they'd be far easier to sway.

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                    • 7. Re: Adobe, when will you give us Creative Cloud on Ubuntu/Linux?
                      ahmedk65701122 Level 1

                      yes i hope adobe work on Linux too,  it will give us PC users  the choice between  2 OS

                      because   some of designers  who use  adobe also know  some   programing

                      for my self   i use  dual  boot for windows   and    linux.   90%of the time on   windows  99% because i need   adobe products

                       

                      bottom    line adobe on  linux  will give us   more options 

                      • 8. Re: Adobe, when will you give us Creative Cloud on Ubuntu/Linux?
                        Abambo Adobe Community Professional

                        Linux is still a niche player and all efforts of Adobe porting their software to Linux or Unix in general failed commercially until now. I do not think that Adobe will venture any port of CC until Linux reaches a critical maass in the creative world. But I’m sure that internally, they have a team working on Linux and great software. As supercomputers are running (mostly) Linux, I’m sure that some of Adobes internal code is running on such machines.

                        • 9. Re: Adobe, when will you give us Creative Cloud on Ubuntu/Linux?
                          hameda73869310 Level 1

                          don't blame the adobe

                          just go and support alternatives!!!

                           

                          GIMP and Inkscape are some kinds of good software but they have a very slow development pace since they don't have enough money to hire more developers. you may pay 10-50 bucks for Adobe products per month. what about donating only 10 bucks per YEAR to GIMP?? if we the COMMUNITY do such thing you would see that they will catch adobe software soon

                          • 10. Re: Adobe, when will you give us Creative Cloud on Ubuntu/Linux?
                            Hanro50 Level 1

                            I know a bit of programming. Maybe I should do that. Maybe you're right; I don't use adobe, but this level of corporate stupidity is past the point of being acceptable.

                             

                            To Adobe:

                            I find it incredible how a company like Adobe still supports two platforms who're both eyeing to stab them in the back. Microsoft is locking down their system meaning you're going to have a 30% cut in your profits when Windows store becomes your only software distribution method on Windows.

                             

                            In the same breath Apple is deprecating openGL; supporting Linux can't be more expensive then the rewrite all your products are going to need to stay competitive on newer Mac OSX versions. With the way Apple and their ecosystem is going I wouldn't be surprised if they created their own image editing app just to ensure people stick to their products.

                             

                            Look at Valve. Their steam client is only officially supported on Ubuntu; but the Linux community has happily ported their steam storefront to nearly every consumer grade distribution under the sun.

                             

                            Speaking of Valve if you where very Lazy, then do this. Go to Valve's github page for proton. Essentially it a compatibility layer for running Windows apps on Linux. Fork it, port a store application to Linux and just run your whole creative sweet thru it.

                             

                            You're done; you've got a Linux package; a sort of drm to prevent pirating and virtually no further development time needed except for keeping that store app up to date...

                            • 11. Re: Adobe, when will you give us Creative Cloud on Ubuntu/Linux?
                              Abambo Adobe Community Professional

                              Hanro50  wrote

                               

                              I know a bit of programming. Maybe I should do that.

                               

                              Great, I'm waiting...

                              Microsoft is locking down their system meaning you're going to have a 30% cut in your profits when Windows store becomes your only software distribution method on Windows.

                              That won't happen!

                              With the way Apple and their ecosystem is going I wouldn't be surprised if they created their own image editing app just to ensure people stick to their products.

                              Apple has their own video editing system. They where that successful with that, that Adobe stopped temporarily the development on Premiere. Now Adobe is back with Premiere and very successful.

                              Go to Valve's github page for proton.

                              Who bought github?

                              • 12. Re: Adobe, when will you give us Creative Cloud on Ubuntu/Linux?
                                Hanro50 Level 1

                                The Linux community has had a history of writing programs for itself. They already have a good stand in for premiere called Kdenlive. All it takes is a small group of angry programmers...

                                 

                                MS has essentially a Monopoly; they can do whatever they damn please and nobody would be able to stop them. Why do you think they're pushing people to go towards Windows 10 so much that they essentially forced some users to upgrade? Why do you think they're going to start pushing a policy for Windows 7 users to start paying a monthly fee for continued support...

                                 

                                Never say never.

                                 

                                Apple has also had a little run in with stifling competition. Their apps might be worse, but again they control their respected platform. If MS pulls something like locking down Windows successfully then don't think for a second Apple isn't going to be far behind.

                                 

                                MS bought Github, but that's not the same as owning everything hosted on it. It would be like Apple or Google owning every app posted to their respected stores. Not impossible, but definitely crossing some legal boundaries...

                                • 13. Re: Adobe, when will you give us Creative Cloud on Ubuntu/Linux?
                                  Cacogen Level 1

                                  Here's another good reason to offer Adobe's software on Linux: Crostini -- that is, new ChromeOS devices will run GNU/Linux apps. So developing for Linux also gets you ChromeOS. That should be worth it -- I don't see any valid excuse now.

                                  • 14. Re: Adobe, when will you give us Creative Cloud on Ubuntu/Linux?
                                    Abambo Adobe Community Professional

                                    Hanro50  wrote

                                     

                                    MS has essentially a Monopoly;

                                     

                                    You are 20 years too late.

                                    • 15. Re: Adobe, when will you give us Creative Cloud on Ubuntu/Linux?
                                      Abambo Adobe Community Professional

                                      Cacogen  wrote

                                       

                                      Here's another good reason to offer Adobe's software on Linux: Crostini -- that is, new ChromeOS devices will run GNU/Linux apps. So developing for Linux also gets you ChromeOS. That should be worth it -- I don't see any valid excuse now.

                                      What a nonsense. MacOS is using a Unix Kernel.

                                      • 16. Re: Adobe, when will you give us Creative Cloud on Ubuntu/Linux?
                                        Cacogen Level 1

                                        Not sure I follow you? You are saying that Linux should be doable because MacOS' kernel is also Unix-like?

                                         

                                        The point is that developing GNU/Linux versions of Adobe's software also gets Adobe's software on ChromeOS devices -- so that's GNU/Linux users + ChromeOS users, which is a significant and increasing number of users.

                                         

                                        ChromeOS + Crostini gives one access to Android *and* GNU/Linux applications, which should make Chromebooks/boxen increasingly interesting to, e.g., web designers/devs, and such.

                                         

                                        The thing that would really suck is if they somehow build apps for ChromeOS, without GNU/Linux compatibility.