10 Replies Latest reply on Feb 3, 2018 1:06 AM by john beardsworth

    Lightroom CC - storage location of photos

    urss76743067 Level 1

      Dear community,

      I have been searching for this online for a while, but didnt find an answer (or I just misunderstand it). Try to describe my problem as best as I can:

       

      My general question is: Where are the imported photos from Lightroom CC (the new one, phone or Laptop) saved?

       

      All I can find is "the original files are saved to the cloud...".

      I would like to add here, so that you know what I mean:

       

      Lets say I am taking pictures on vacation with my DSLR, import them to Lightroom CC on my Laptop. I might even put them in an album. Do some adjustments.

      To be honest I am really used to what they now call Lightroom Classic. But it all works perfectly.

      I was just wondering where all those pictures are stored? It says its all in the cloud. But when I check my Creative Cloud folder, i dont see the new pictures.

      As far as I understand, all my adjustments etc are stored on my adobe account. So when I get home, open Lightroom Classic, the pictures will appear (in case I put them in an album on my Laptop). The original file though: Am I supposed to import those pictures again on my home computer?

       

      Please let me know if you need more information. I greatly appreciate some tips (knowing this is pretty basic and I just probably dont yet understand the logic)...

       

      btw: In LR Classic I set the "location for LR ecosystem pictures" to be in a folder which is also in the creative cloud.

      br, martin

       

       

       

       

       

       

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        • 1. Re: Lightroom CC - storage location of photos
          john beardsworth Adobe Community Professional & MVP

          As it says, they are stored in the cloud. But you don't see them in your Creative Cloud folder - they take up some of that space, you just don't see them.

           

          If you only used LRCC, that would it - one original stored in the cloud. Delete it, and it's gone forever. You can store copies locally (it's a preference) up to the limit of the space you allow LRCC to use.

           

          Because you also use Classic and are syncing your catalogue, the originals uploaded by LRCC are automatically synced down to the Classic and into the "location for LR ecosystem pictures". So at this point, you have an original file in the hidden bit of the cloud, and also the original file in whatever folder you want. You don't have to import again.

           

          Clear as mud?

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          • 2. Re: Lightroom CC - storage location of photos
            urss76743067 Level 1

            hi john

            thank you very much for making this clear. it starts to make sense now for me...

             

            I just checked in LR CC. It says: "storage location for originals:". If I understand you correctly, this is only for copies of the originals.

             

            As long as I dont turn on my home computer with LR Classic on it, the originals will not show up (?). When I do, the specified folder, defined in LR Classic "ecosystem files " will start to fill up and I can work with them at home.

             

            It seems quite practical - thank you again for pointing that out with the hidden part of the cloud!

            • 3. Re: Lightroom CC - storage location of photos
              MontyMontgomery Level 1

              You may already know this, but you can see all of your photos online at lightroom.adobe.com

               

              Monty

              • 4. Re: Lightroom CC - storage location of photos
                john beardsworth Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                I do One way to think of this is that lightroom.adobe.com is LRCC-Browser, just like you have LRCC-iOS, LRCC-Android, and LRCC Mac/PC. These are what Adobe call the LRCC ecosystem, and LR Classic is outside it but can communicate with it.

                • 5. Re: Lightroom CC - storage location of photos
                  john beardsworth Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                  urss76743067  wrote

                  I just checked in LR CC. It says: "storage location for originals:". If I understand you correctly, this is only for copies of the originals.

                   

                  As long as I dont turn on my home computer with LR Classic on it, the originals will not show up (?). When I do, the specified folder, defined in LR Classic "ecosystem files " will start to fill up and I can work with them at home.

                  Correct. From a Classic-user perspective, it's a debating point whether the files in "storage location for originals" are originals or copies of the originals. I feel they are my originals.

                   

                  As long as you don't open Classic on your home computer, remember that the photos only exist once in the cloud. So if you do delete a photo in LRCC before you know it is in Classic, you will have deleted your only copy of the file and there's no way back.

                   

                  I recommend that you are very cautious about using LRCC and Classic together. Adobe have deliberately failed to make them work together properly. For example,  keywords entered in LRCC don't update Classic, so as far as I am concerned they wasted their effort adding keywords in LRCC and I advise Classic users to ignore keywording in LRCC. But you are asking the right questions and if you just treat LRCC as being LR Mobile on your laptop, you should be OK.

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                  • 6. Re: Lightroom CC - storage location of photos
                    urss76743067 Level 1

                    thank you john, this was really helpful for me. at first, this was all a bit confusing (i am a LR Classic user, whi hopes they dont kill it)...

                     

                    But now, it starts to make sense. i try to summarize (just to be sure):

                     

                    1. i can take photos on the way, either with the dslr or smartphone. then add them using LR CC (ADD PHOTOS). I can also start making little adjustments, like stars or delete some. even develop.

                    2. If I have an internet connection, the picture originals will be stored in the cloud, but hidden.

                    3. they will also be stored locally on the path I can specify on LR CC. thats like a backup on the laptop.

                    4. When I come home, turn on LR Classic on the PC, the hidden files will start showing up in the Creative Cloud folder I specified as the "ecosystem folder* in LR Classic.

                    5. I can move the files on my NAS or whereever I want, when done editing.

                    6. the copied files mentioned in 3) on my laptop will stay there. I can delete them and this has no impact on my catalog.

                     

                    Sorry to write so much. Just want to be sure if I understand this correctly.

                    Thank you !

                    • 7. Re: Lightroom CC - storage location of photos
                      john beardsworth Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                      Yes. I'd just emphasize the point about not getting too clever with this, even if you know what you are doing. Think about my "treat LRCC as being LR Mobile on your laptop".

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                      • 8. Re: Lightroom CC - storage location of photos
                        Jim Wilde Adobe Community Professional

                        urss76743067  wrote

                         

                        4. When I come home, turn on LR Classic on the PC, the hidden files will start showing up in the Creative Cloud folder I specified as the "ecosystem folder* in LR Classic.

                         

                        If I am reading this point correctly, I think you're making a mistake. Think about it.....you upload images from whichever LRCC app you used, they go up to the cloud and are stored within your cloud allowance. Then back on your computer, you start Classic and it immediately starts downloading those new images to your hard drive....but if you've specified somewhere in the Creative Cloud folder to be the place that you store your ecosystem downloads, so what will immediately happen is that the Creative Cloud app will start uploading those images back to the cloud. Then, because they're a different part of the cloud to your LRCC images, they'll also count against your cloud allowance! But maybe I'm reading too much into your comment.

                         

                        Personally, I specify that all such ecosystem downloads get automatically added into my Classic-managed folder structure. That way ALL my images, no matter what the source, are contained within the one file structure on my local hard drives.

                        • 9. Re: Lightroom CC - storage location of photos
                          urss76743067 Level 1

                          Thank you Jim,

                           

                          I believe you are right. By placing that ecosystem folder in the CC, it will then be uploaded twice (the "hidden" files are still around).

                           

                          This ecosystem folder only serves as an input folder for me, when I am importing pictures on my laptop. What I usually do afterwards is moving those pictures to another location (NAS at home). This way, that ecosystem folder is only temporary.

                          As John points out, I should not play around too much (say, using kewords in LR CC and then expect them to show up in Classic).

                           

                          I am still using Classic as the main instrument, not CC. I am not sure whether Adobe will push CC and ultimately kill Classic. but I guess thats another topic.

                          You brought up another question: Its regarding those files which are hidden: They will stay in the cloud, even when I already moved the pictures to my NAS? That makes no sense to me, because if someone is really taking lots of pictures, imports them via CC, wants to keep them: It would be wise to move them to another location, right? Otherwise, you need TBs of online storage, thats not what I want...

                          -->As I understand, the only way to delete them is when I also delete them in my catalog(?).

                           

                          Thanks again for your time!

                          br

                          • 10. Re: Lightroom CC - storage location of photos
                            john beardsworth Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                            I agree with Jim's point and I think you understand it too.

                             

                            "Its regarding those files which are hidden: They will stay in the cloud, even when I already moved the pictures to my NAS? That makes no sense to me, because if someone is really taking lots of pictures, imports them via CC, wants to keep them: It would be wise to move them to another location, right? Otherwise, you need TBs of online storage, thats not what I want..."

                             

                            Yes, that's potentially lots of space. So you might want remove originals from the cloud after a period, and you can do this either by deleting the files in LRCC (only after first ensuring you have them in Classic!), or by unsyncing them in Classic.