19 Replies Latest reply on Jun 6, 2018 9:00 AM by jane-e

    How to change from beginner to expert

    katev4453316 Level 1

      Hi there,

      So I'm an Interior Design student and I need to use InDesign for class. However, when I downloaded the trial I chose "beginner" because I thought it just wanted to know. Turns out that option alters the tools on InDesign, and I need the full array, since that is what we are learning with in class. Can anyone help me figure out how to change to 'expert' mode?

        • 1. Re: How to change from beginner to expert
          kglad Adobe Community Professional & MVP

          all the tools are there.  some are combined and require the icon to the pressed and held to reveal others.  if that's not enough help, what tool are you looking for?

           

          you can also change your workspace to reveal different panels or customize your panels and their layout.

           

          [moved from Creative Cloud Download & Install to InDesign]

          • 2. Re: How to change from beginner to expert
            fenjas29325284 Level 5

            workspace.png

             

            Read more about workspaces: Workspace basics in InDesign

             

            Fenja

            • 3. Re: How to change from beginner to expert
              Steve Werner Adobe Community Professional & MVP

              If you're taking a normal InDesign beginning class, you probably want to choose the Advanced workspace which includes most of the panels used in such a course. Other panels (like Text Wrap) are found under the Window menu.

              • 4. Re: How to change from beginner to expert
                katev4453316 Level 1

                My issue is that the layout is different and the tools are in different places. It's complicated to navigate differently at home than in class. I selected beginner on accident, and I need to change it to the expert version and don't know how.

                • 5. Re: How to change from beginner to expert
                  katev4453316 Level 1

                  My issue is that the layout is different and the tools are in different places. It's complicated to navigate differently at home than in class. I selected beginner on accident, and I need to change it to the expert version and don't know how. Selecting 'beginner' looks much different than 'expert' and it's an unnecessary complication that I'd like to avoid.

                  • 6. Re: How to change from beginner to expert
                    BobLevine MVP & Adobe Community Professional

                    Tools and panels can be re-arranged to fit your needs. There is no one size fits all approach to workspaces.

                     

                    Just set it up the way you want. There is nothing missing.

                    • 7. Re: How to change from beginner to expert
                      kglad Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                      again,

                       

                      "all the tools are there.  some are combined and require the icon to the pressed and held to reveal others.  if that's not enough help, what tool are you looking for?

                       

                      you can also change your workspace to reveal different panels or customize your panels and their layout."

                      • 8. Re: How to change from beginner to expert
                        Laubender Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                        Hi Kate,

                        if you are back to class you could save your arrangement of tools and panels to a custom workspace. You can give it a name. And you could retrieve that custom workspace as a file and install that file with your version of InDesign at home. Provided you have the same version of InDesign at class and at home.

                         

                        First read about workspaces here:

                        Workspace basics in InDesign

                         

                        A custom workspace is an xml file that is stored in your user folder.

                         

                        To get to that file open up the Scripts panel in InDesign under Window > Utilities > Scripts

                        Then right-click the User folder listed in the Scripts panel and do Reveal in Finder (Mac OS X) or Reveal in Explorer (Windows). Navigate to the folder in the hierarchie above. There you'll find the folder Workspaces with all your custom workspaces saved as xml files. Copy your custom workspace xml file(s) to e.g. an USB stick and install it in the same Workspaces folder of your InDesign version at home.

                         

                        Regards,
                        Uwe

                        • 9. Re: How to change from beginner to expert
                          katev4453316 Level 1

                          I'm saying that I want the layout that comes with 'expert'. I should be able to change the experience level instead of be accustomed to a different layout. I understand that 'all of the tools are there' but that doesn't matter when it's hard to navigate, period. I'm not asking for clarification on tools, but I'm looking for how to change the settings altogether. Please don't answer the forum if you're just going to tell me that all of the tools are there because that's not helpful information when I'm asking how to adjust the level of experience on InDesign.

                          • 10. Re: How to change from beginner to expert
                            BobLevine MVP & Adobe Community Professional

                            As pointed out already, there is no “expert” layout and to be perfectly frank, if you can’t understand that you have no business telling us how to answer you.

                             

                            We’re all trying to help and you keep ignoring the advice.

                            • 11. Re: How to change from beginner to expert
                              Derek Cross Adobe Community Professional

                              I think you misunderstand the use of the different InDesign Workspaces. As mentioned, there's no Expert or Beginners workspace, you can choose the various default ones that come with InDesign or set up your own. Instead of pouting, learn how to use InDesign from personal training, from books, such as the QuickStart Guides and Classroom in a Book series,and the online videos tutorials from Lynda.com and Pluralsite.com. And of course you can ask specific questions on this friendly forum. But InDesign is a professional application with a steep learning curve, you need to devote a lot of time to learning it, if you want to. Good luck and have fun with InDesign!

                              • 12. Re: How to change from beginner to expert
                                IDEAS-Training Adobe Community Professional

                                The question Adobe asks is just for marketing research--it does not affect the program. As mentioned, the tools in InDesign are not altered at all. Change your workspace to Advanced and make further changes from there.

                                This is a typical workspace I use when on a single monitor (of descent resolution):

                                Note that I always save my workspace to reset it as necessary.

                                • 13. Re: How to change from beginner to expert
                                  jane-e Adobe Community Professional

                                  katev4453316  wrote

                                   

                                  I'm saying that I want the layout that comes with 'expert'.

                                  I'm asking how to adjust the level of experience on InDesign.

                                  Kate, everyone understands what you are asking and you are not listening to all of the experts who are telling you the correct answer. You continue asking the same question as if you might get a different answer.

                                   

                                  Why don't you show us a screen shot of your workspace with the panels, and tell us what you think you are missing and we can help you from there.

                                   

                                  To clarify: InDesign does not have two versions. It has one version. You can customize the look and feel of it by opening and closing and moving panels around to suit your own preference.

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                                  • 14. Re: How to change from beginner to expert
                                    melindaa62210893 Level 1

                                    Hey Kate

                                     

                                    to switch from the beginner view to the more advanced view select the three lines at the top right of the screen and select Typography. You will switch your view from Touch to Typography which shows you all of those advanced features and options.

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                                    • 15. Re: How to change from beginner to expert
                                      BarbBinder Adobe Community Professional

                                      Hi katev4453316:

                                       

                                      A couple of thoughts...

                                      1. As a trainer, I don't expect a new user to know about workspaces—I cover them within the first hour of class. I would think your teacher would do the same thing, and if not, just ask them to. It's an essential part of working with InDesign.
                                      2. As per IDEAS-Training, selecting Beginner does not impact how InDesign opens, but installing InDesign on a Windows computer with a touch screen does. InDesign will sense the touch screen and put you into an extremely simplified interface. Does your screen look like this?
                                        Capture.png

                                      The answer to your question is what everyone has been saying all along but their screen shots reflect a "normal" installation and not a Touch installation, so perhaps that is the issue. As per all the experts above: change the workspace. In my screen shot above, click on Touch and pick Advanced.

                                       

                                      If this still doesn't help, please share a screen shot of your screen. We will happily help you, but we are just guessing until you show us exactly what is going on.

                                       

                                      ~Barb

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                                      • 16. Re: How to change from beginner to expert
                                        Frans van der Geest (ACP) Adobe Community Professional

                                        First: go to Edit/Preferences then General: Uncheck the option Show Start workspace;

                                        Then look at the right top corner, it can say something like ‘Essential Elements’. Click on that and change it to Advaned;

                                        Then click again on Advanced then choose a bit lower in the menu Reset Advanced.

                                        This is the most ‘expert’ you can get.

                                        After that you can show and add panels to your own liking.

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                                        • 17. Re: How to change from beginner to expert
                                          Erica Gamet Adobe Community Professional

                                          This is a great way to explain it to someone who is new, Barb! I'm wondering if her class/teacher have custom workspaces created called "Expert" and "Beginner." So they're using workspaces, but it was never explained to the students that's what it is...and that they can further customize.

                                          • 18. Re: How to change from beginner to expert
                                            jessicabanks17 Level 1

                                            Sounds to me like youve downloaded Lightroom CC & not Adobe Photoshop CC

                                            • 19. Re: How to change from beginner to expert
                                              jane-e Adobe Community Professional

                                              jessicabanks17  wrote

                                              Sounds to me like youve downloaded Lightroom CC & not Adobe Photoshop CC

                                              Jessica, the OP is talking about InDesign.