22 Replies Latest reply on Aug 24, 2018 3:09 AM by SimonM1956

    Sorting of LR photos by capture date/time

    darylj69763446 Level 1

      I have a need to be able to sort my photos by the date and time they were taken.  I have already imported the raw files into LR Classic.  I need to export them as .jpg in the time they were taken not the file name.  I use 2 cameras for events and am randomly using both cameras.  When I import them they are sorted by filename.  I want to sort them in order of time they were taken to give to my clients in that order.  I know I could prior to importing them into LR sort by date and do a batch rename in Windows explorer then import them into LR, which I could then sort in the order of time taken but I have already imported them into LR and done edits on over 500 images.  I can't do the sorting after exporting from LR to .jpg because the time stamp is the time they were exported not created.

      Anyone know of a solution.  I can't find anywhere in LR to sort by time taken prior to export or during the export process.

      Help would be appreciated.

      Thank you much!

      D

        • 1. Re: Sorting of LR photos by capture date/time
          JimHess Adobe Community Professional & MVP

          Will sorting by capture time work for you?

          • 2. Re: Sorting of LR photos by capture date/time
            darylj69763446 Level 1

            Well I just figured out a fix.  As it turns out LR does export the file info for the original date and time.  In Windows explorer sort all files in order of date/time.  That will give you an order of time taken.  If it's sorted in the wrong direction just click the button again.  Then select all photos, right click on the 1st photo and rename it whatever you want then click enter.  The consecutive files will be renamed the same with the addition of a number starting from 1 then 2...3 and so on.  Problem solved.

            There is however no option in LR to sort photos in the catalog by anything but filename.

            • 3. Re: Sorting of LR photos by capture date/time
              darylj69763446 Level 1

              Yes that did work Jim.  I thought after exporting from LR the files were saved with a time stamp of when the files were exported.  They however are exported with the original file date and time which can be then sorted in Windows explorer, renamed and windows assigns a consecutive number to the remaining files on your selected list. 

              Thank Your Sir for replying.

              LR however, dosen't have an option to sort files in the catalog by anything other than filename which is the default.

              Thanks

              • 4. Re: Sorting of LR photos by capture date/time
                JimHess Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                Really? One of the sort options is to sort by Capture Time. You can sort by capture time, file name, added order, edit time and several other options. Where did you get the idea that file name is the only option?

                • 5. Re: Sorting of LR photos by capture date/time
                  darylj69763446 Level 1

                  Are you talking about sorting the pictures already imported in LR.  If so, how

                  • 6. Re: Sorting of LR photos by capture date/time
                    WobertC Adobe Community Professional

                    If you do not see the Tool Bar- Press T

                    Click the drop-down menu to the right of [Sort: ]

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                    • 7. Re: Sorting of LR photos by capture date/time
                      darylj69763446 Level 1

                      Thank you WobertC

                      I didn't see that.  toolbar was turned on but I overlooked it.  LR has many controls in many different locations.

                      I also had to change the capture time on my D800 as it was 1hr off.  My fault.  Now I sorted by camera and am manually changing the capture time of the affected photos.

                      Thank you so much.

                      • 8. Re: Sorting of LR photos by capture date/time
                        darylj69763446 Level 1

                        Thank you Jim.  I have it figured out now.  WobertC sent me a screen shot. 

                        Thank you again

                        • 9. Re: Sorting of LR photos by capture date/time
                          darylj69763446 Level 1

                          Oh BTW sorting is only visible while in Grid view.  It isn't there in Loupe view.  Thats why I couldn't fine it.  It should be visible in Loupe view also.

                          • 10. Re: Sorting of LR photos by capture date/time
                            darylj69763446 Level 1

                            Actually I'm wrong.  I had the sort option ticked off while in Loupe view.  Now all is well...

                            • 11. Re: Sorting of LR photos by capture date/time
                              WobertC Adobe Community Professional

                              It should be visible in Loupe view also.

                              Why?

                              You cannot sort ONE image!!!

                               

                              But OK, for the Filmstrip to be sorted you need to first sort in Grid view. A quick press of G then E  toggles from Grid to LoupE.

                              • 12. Re: Sorting of LR photos by capture date/time
                                Just Shoot Me Adobe Community Professional

                                Film strip sorts even when in Loupe view. I just checked and images move around in the strip with one image selected and shown in the Loupe view.

                                • 13. Re: Sorting of LR photos by capture date/time
                                  WobertC Adobe Community Professional

                                  Yes JSM you are right, I am wrong. Ignore my post#11

                                  The sort options are still visible in Loupe view on the Tool bar.

                                   

                                  And there is also the possibility that the 'Sorting' option is not visible on the Tools bar because of the options in the Tool Bar Menu-

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                                  • 14. Re: Sorting of LR photos by capture date/time
                                    SimonM1956 Level 1

                                    Not sure in amongst all the posts on this subject if this has already been addressed so forgive me if I missed something.  Within LR6 I am trying to just sort on Capture Time (easy enough) and not have the influence of Camera Type overriding this.  So far not having much luck.

                                    Regards S

                                    • 15. Re: Sorting of LR photos by capture date/time
                                      WobertC Adobe Community Professional

                                      Can you explain a little more what you mean by  "influence of Camera Type"?

                                      Do you perhaps have a Filter also active?    [Ctrl+L] to enable/disable filters.

                                      • 16. Re: Sorting of LR photos by capture date/time
                                        SimonM1956 Level 1

                                        Hi WobertC thanks for your reply - Maybe that the problem as I have already assigned a series of 'star ratings' to my images in this folder.  Would this explain why 'capture date' is being ignored?

                                        So in my selection I have all my D750 (24-70mm) images displaying at the beginning of the folder and my D810 (70-200mm) with the same exposure date at the end.  Its big folder 5000+ images and I have selected 1300 for 4 & 5 star rating and I am trying to reduce this to 400 images at 5 stars.  Having these star rated images split like this makes it challenging to make the final selection when they are not presented contiguously.  Any solutions to this dilemma?

                                        • 17. Re: Sorting of LR photos by capture date/time
                                          WobertC Adobe Community Professional

                                          No, "Capture Time" sort would not be affected by filters.

                                          I can only suggest that the cameras were not set to the same time&date. Check the metadata of some images from both cameras for that. If cameras were set different, you can use Lightroom to correct the sort by changing their Capture Time. (Metadata>Edit Capture Time)

                                          If I understand you are trying to 'narrow' your selection of the "1300 4 & 5 starred" photos, that should be easy by setting attributes on the filter bar to narrow the selection.

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                                          With my catalog "All Photographs" will sort correctly by 'Capture Time' irrespective of any camera or attributes.

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                                          • 18. Re: Sorting of LR photos by capture date/time
                                            SimonM1956 Level 1

                                            Taking your suggestion I have checked the Metadata of two example images exposed on the same day and date (6 Aug 2014) the first occurs at #521 in Loupe View and the second image the same date (different camera & lens) appearing at #1284 in Loupe View.  I checked the two filter settings (a. sort by 'capture date) and (b. sort by 'star rating' > than and equal to 4*).

                                             

                                            I did however note the file type varied between the two camera.  The first was a *.DNG and the second a RAW image as *.NEF.  Would this account for the difference?  If so can it be resolved (ie. post exposure) to meet my objective?

                                            • 19. Re: Sorting of LR photos by capture date/time
                                              WobertC Adobe Community Professional

                                              two example images exposed on the same day and date

                                              And- Did you compare the TIME of the images? because this will also affect the "Capture Time" sort.

                                              I checked the two filter settings (a. sort by 'capture date) and (b. sort by 'star rating' > than and equal to 4*).

                                              I am not certain you understand the difference between 'Sort' and 'Filter'.

                                              The Filter for Attributes- only shows you the images for the attribute/s you toggle on. eg. Toggle on the 'Flagged' attribute and you will see only Flagged photos in the grid.

                                              The Sort options (below the Grid preview window) will set the Sort method for the photos you see in the Grid View.

                                               

                                              So in the example: Filter by Star Rating, and Sort by Capture Time:  This will not separate the photos by Camera type (OR File type)  IF both cameras were set to the same 'Time of day'.

                                               

                                              So, again, check two photos from each camera that you KNOW (by comparing subject matter) were taken at the same Time of day (Hour/minutes) then tell me if the cameras were set to the same Time of Day.

                                              • 20. Re: Sorting of LR photos by capture date/time
                                                SimonM1956 Level 1

                                                Ok so just confirming the settings of (a. sort by 'capture date) and (b. filter by 'star rating' > than and equal to 4*).

                                                 

                                                Capture date and time: #521 as 6 Aug 2014 - 5:07:11pm and the second  image (position #1284) 6 Aug 2014 - 5:05:30pm.  I should add that between these two images there are range of capture dates (and times) that are all nicely chronologically ordered, but the sequencing seems to be only divided by camera type....

                                                 

                                                Are there some critical sceenshots that I can display to show this to you?

                                                • 21. Re: Sorting of LR photos by capture date/time
                                                  WobertC Adobe Community Professional
                                                  sceenshots that I can display

                                                  In the Grid view, press J to toggle on the info on the thumbnail borders,

                                                  Press [Ctrl+J] for the Library View Options, and set one of the "Expanded Cell Extras" to shoe Capture Date/Time

                                                  Capture2.PNG   Capture.PNG

                                                  Now you can view that data on each thumbnail.

                                                   

                                                  So if you are "Sorting" by Capture Time, and the subject matter in the photos does not "Look" to be in sequence (IGNORING the recorded metadata Time/Date)  then- Your cameras must have been set to a different Time-of-day!

                                                  If the cameras were not "in sync" for Date/Time then the Photos will not be "in sync", hence the apparent sort by camera.

                                                   

                                                  So show a screen clip of the Grid view window with the Date/Time metadata showing.

                                                  • 22. Re: Sorting of LR photos by capture date/time
                                                    SimonM1956 Level 1

                                                    Hi WobertC, my sincere apologies to you for the efforts you have made in trying to help me.  I have located the problem and it is as you have suggested, date related after all!  While the day and time were set correctly the year was exactly one year out, 2014 vs 2015.  I am not sure how I missed this as I checked several times.  Thanks again for you help and patience in this matter, a bit of a lesson learnt here for me.....