15 Replies Latest reply on Aug 31, 2018 5:05 AM by Vito Les

    COLOURS ARE COMING OUT DIFFERENT AFTER EXPORT.

    OAB92 Level 1

      Hello Everyone,

       

      I have been using Lightroom for a long time and have never had an issue, but the past couple of weeks everytime I export the colours are coming out more red-toned. I use a calibrated benq computer monitor, so it's not the screen calibration messing the images up. the photos are absolutely fine in adobe but as soon as they're out of Adobe they are ruined. we have started exporting from macs and this seems to be working but is not practical. if anyone has any ideas please let me know asap!! thankyou.

        • 1. Re: COLOURS ARE COMING OUT DIFFERENT AFTER EXPORT.
          Per Berntsen Adobe Community Professional

          Can you post a screenshot showing the difference between Lightroom and the exported image?

          In what applications are you viewing the exported images?

          If you have a wide gamut monitor, images will be over saturated in applications without color management, such as the Windows 10 Photos app.

          • 2. Re: COLOURS ARE COMING OUT DIFFERENT AFTER EXPORT.
            PADDY@PADDYB.DEMON.CO.UK Level 1

            Probably a stupid question, but have you checked which colour profile you are specifying for the export in the export screen?

            • 3. Re: COLOURS ARE COMING OUT DIFFERENT AFTER EXPORT.
              thedigitaldog MVP & Adobe Community Professional

              You need to tell us where you're viewing the explored files because as Per stated, IF the secondary application isn't color managed, it's very possible the previews will not match! Has nothing to do with the profile used for export; all ICC aware applications will preview the same data, the same way. Non color managed applications don't. Many web browsers for example are not color managed or need color management 'turned on'.

              • 4. Re: COLOURS ARE COMING OUT DIFFERENT AFTER EXPORT.
                Per Berntsen Adobe Community Professional

                thedigitaldog  wrote

                 

                Many web browsers for example are not color managed or need color management 'turned on'.

                This has changed recently - Chrome and Opera are now fully color managed out of the box, and will even assign sRGB to untagged images, like Firefox does with Color management mode set to 1. The only major browsers that still aren't color managed are Internet Explorer and Edge. Nothing is obviously going to happen with Internet Explorer, but I don't think Edge will become color managed either. I have a feeling that Microsoft considers the over saturation on wide gamut monitors "attractive". Or maybe they just don't have a clue.

                I don't use a Mac, but I assume that Safari is color managed.

                • 5. Re: COLOURS ARE COMING OUT DIFFERENT AFTER EXPORT.
                  thedigitaldog MVP & Adobe Community Professional

                  https://forums.adobe.com/people/Per+Berntsen  wrote

                   

                  thedigitaldog   wrote

                   

                  Many web browsers for example are not color managed or need color management 'turned on'.

                  This has changed recently - Chrome and Opera are now fully color managed out of the box, and will even assign sRGB to untagged images, like Firefox does with Color management mode set to 1.

                  That's my point; some need to be configured for color management. Safari BTW doesn't. It's color managed period.

                  For those of us one a wide gamut display, assigning sRGB would be an issue. An issue if the data isn't in sRGB. But anyone posting untagged data kind of deserves what they get.

                  • 6. Re: COLOURS ARE COMING OUT DIFFERENT AFTER EXPORT.
                    Jao vdL Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                    Safari even manages CSS color elements on any page and assumes sRGB for untagged images and CSS elements nowadays. Exactly the right thing. Chrome does the same thing at least on Mac OS X. On windows, Chrome used to mimic internet explorer's bad behavior but that might have changed that in recent years. Firefox cannot deal with iccv4 profiles.

                    • 7. Re: COLOURS ARE COMING OUT DIFFERENT AFTER EXPORT.
                      pithreel44403925 Level 1

                      I'm having the same problem. I'm using a Dell XPS 15 9550 with a 4K screen. I edit in Photoshop and Lightroom. It doesn't matter whether I edit raw or jpegs, once the images are processed in PS or LR and "saved as" jpegs. The resulting images are overly saturated. I'm worried because I want to deliver the images the way I processed them in PS and LR. I don't want the clients to see oversaturated images, but I can't figure out how to make the jpegs match the photos in my workflow. I've watched thedigitaldog's video on how to start with the right color profiles in PS, but the images still have that weird color shift. Need your help please.

                      • 8. Re: COLOURS ARE COMING OUT DIFFERENT AFTER EXPORT.
                        Per Berntsen Adobe Community Professional

                        As far as I can tell, the Dell XPS 15 9550 has a wide gamut screen, in which case you must use only color managed applications to view your work. Viewing images in applications without color management (such as the Photos app and the Edge browser) will inevitably lead to over saturation on wide gamut monitors.

                        The Windows Photo Viewer is color managed, and also Bridge.

                        The free Irfanview image viewer is also color managed. (you need to enable color management under Settings)

                        • 9. Re: COLOURS ARE COMING OUT DIFFERENT AFTER EXPORT.
                          thedigitaldog MVP & Adobe Community Professional

                          pithreel44403925  wrote

                          It doesn't matter whether I edit raw or jpegs, once the images are processed in PS or LR and "saved as" jpegs. The resulting images are overly saturated.

                          Viewed where?

                          • 10. Re: COLOURS ARE COMING OUT DIFFERENT AFTER EXPORT.
                            david.at.large Level 1

                            I used to have the same problem. I use a Dell XPS 15 9560 with 4k screen, edit Photos in LR CC and view in Fast Stone Image Viewer 6.4 (with Color Management System active, i.e. should be sensitive to the color profile). Originally, photos were much more saturated after export, especially the warm colors. When I viewed them in Chrome, they looked like in LR. Weirdly, just now, the difference is gone. Unfortunately not in the "direction" I wanted. Now, the photo also looks saturated in LR. I played a bit with Dell PremiumColor but eventually reset all changes to default. The Screen Color is now set to Brillant (complete/full) [mine is German, so don't know the exact term]. I have also forced the laptop to use the dedicated graphics card for all apps and then, just to be sure, forced it specifically to use the GPU for LR and FS. However, when I originally did that it did not change a thing, so I am not sure what caused the change.

                            Very frustrating, the whole issue. It really keeps me from editing photos when I don't know what they look like later.

                            • 11. Re: COLOURS ARE COMING OUT DIFFERENT AFTER EXPORT.
                              thedigitaldog MVP & Adobe Community Professional

                              IF colors do not match what you see from Lightroom, Photoshop or ICC aware applications/web browsers like Safari etc, then they are likely not color managed OR, there can be issues with how they deal with the display profile. Some applications do not deal well with V4 generated display profiles. Some don't do well with LUT built profiles. So if you're absolutely sure the application is color aware, regenerate a new display profile and try differing settings (V2, Matrix). Profiles can get wonky (the technical term for corrupted <g>) so regeneration or simply deleting the profile can sometimes fix the issue. With ICC aware applications, it is absolutely not necessary to export sRGB. ALL RGB color spaces with tagged profiles will preview correctly as seen in Photoshop, LR etc. LR cannot produce an untagged document but Photoshop and other applications can and this is a huge problem. Even with ICC aware applications. There's no description of the color space, the scale of the RGB numbers. So they have to assume something and usually it is sRGB (or ugh, the display profile). And that is where color mismatches can show up even with ICC aware applications. But that's not possible with Lightroom. It always embeds an ICC profile.

                              • 12. Re: COLOURS ARE COMING OUT DIFFERENT AFTER EXPORT.
                                Jao vdL Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                                David, there are only a few rules to get correct color:

                                 

                                1. Calibrate your display using recent calibration hardware. If your screen is wide gamut, make sure your calibrator supports it. Many older ones don't

                                2. In general choose a icc v2 profile for the calibration profile except if you know all your apps will support v4 and/or LUT-based profiles

                                3. DO NOT USE ANY non-color managed apps. On windows that means almost all built-in stuff should NOT be used to view images. This includes internet explorer and other browsers in their default setting. They will NEVER show you the correct color no matter what you do. Just ignore them. On Macs almost everything is color managed and so there you have to worry less but you should still do 1 and 2

                                4. When exporting images, always include the icc profile. Lightroom always does this as digital dog notes, but Photoshop can be coerced into exporting without a profile.

                                 

                                Lastly, give up any illusion you can control what your audience sees. The overwhelming majority will not have calibrated their displays. Best thing to do is to always export to sRGB when you are going to share images with others (for yourself it won't matter because you only use color managed apps right?) and to have your own screen calibrated. What you see will be close to the average person viewing your images but any individual screen will be basically random. Nothing can be done about this.

                                • 13. Re: COLOURS ARE COMING OUT DIFFERENT AFTER EXPORT.
                                  Vito Les Level 1

                                  I have the same problem, but in the opposite direction. I make photos with Nikon camera just fine, import photos and than baaam, sliders are jumping in develop maggio and my photos are totally different now. I must change every single photo, but my work is destroyed.  Even if I re-import the already processed photos into lightroom, they turn them lightroom into its settings, which I do not know where it is from. Previously, the program worked normally and imported the photos as they were made. Sorry for my english

                                  • 14. Re: COLOURS ARE COMING OUT DIFFERENT AFTER EXPORT.
                                    Jao vdL Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                                    Vito,

                                     

                                    go into your preferences ->Presets. Click "Reset all default Develop settings".

                                    Also, at import make sure to not select a develop preset

                                     

                                    Now reset an image from this camera. Doesn't matter whether you already imported it. Go into Develop and hit the big reset button at the bottom. Open the profile browser (the 4 squares to the right of the profile popup in Basic) and select "Camera Standard" Also make sure to star the other camera matching profiles. Now you should have the image looking like the in-camera jpeg preview that you first saw when you imported the raw file. You can change this to the default for files from this camera by alt/option clicking the reset button which will turn into "Set Default ..." when you hit the alt/option key.

                                    • 15. Re: COLOURS ARE COMING OUT DIFFERENT AFTER EXPORT.
                                      Vito Les Level 1

                                      Thank you for help, done.