20 Replies Latest reply on Aug 18, 2018 7:50 AM by juanmario

    .DV Not supported? Or did the codec get deleted?

    wiensholla Level 1

      I have been filming with a Mini DV camera for years (as well as now 4k cameras) and with the latest update, I have not been able to import my new footage. I import using an old version of iMovie HD 06 because for me, I can tell a difference in quality.

       

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      I'm not even able to batch convert them (not that I should have to) because Media Encoder gives me the same error. I had recently deleted a Final Cut Pro Trial as well as noticed my cc 2017 was still in my applications folder. I had just edited a 10 minute video using this camcorder last fall, what is going on?

        • 1. Re: .DV Not supported? Or did the codec get deleted?
          Vinay Dwivedi Adobe Employee

          Hi Jordan,

           

          This might be because of the removal of Legacy QT codecs.

           

          As per this DV should import and export but if you are running into issues due to this please try the workarounds mentioned in the below link.

           

          Dropped support for Quicktime 7 era formats and codecs

           

          //Vinay

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          • 2. Re: .DV Not supported? Or did the codec get deleted?
            wiensholla Level 1

            Why would this ever be a thing? What about documentaries with archival footage? And I can't even transcode them because Media Encoder can't import them either...

            • 3. Re: .DV Not supported? Or did the codec get deleted?
              Jim_Simon Level 9

              You can install an older version of Adobe Media Encoder along with the current version and use the older version to convert.

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              • 4. Re: .DV Not supported? Or did the codec get deleted?
                lehestro Level 1

                I'm dealing with this same issue. With none other than a – you guessed it – a documentary using legacy footage. I stupidly updated Premiere, because the project had been locked for 6 months. Now I needed to make a minor tweak, reviewed, and saw this patch of "media offline" frames.

                 

                I'm not a software engineer, so it would be nice to know why they ended support for legacy codecs. I mean, it can't be adding much bloat to the app, can it? Seems Adobe got a case of Apple-itis, and decided to slim down because some engineer has issues about streamlined code at the expense of usability. And yes I can recode, but when you have a locked timeline that has been color-corrected, and is to spec, introducing newly re-encoded material is really nerve-wracking and potentially problematic.

                 

                This was a $#!† move on Adobe's part.

                • 5. Re: .DV Not supported? Or did the codec get deleted?
                  Jim_Simon Level 9

                  it would be nice to know why they ended support for legacy codecs.

                   

                  Here's the best I could find.

                   

                  "Adobe continuously aims to keep up with the most modern workflows and support formats and codecs broadly used across the professional film and video industry. As a result, future versions of Premiere Pro will no longer support legacy QuickTime 7 era formats and codecs."  - Patrick J. Palmer

                  • 6. Re: .DV Not supported? Or did the codec get deleted?
                    lehestro Level 1

                    I saw that. It's kind of a non-explanation. I don't that keeping up with modern codecs has to be mutually exclusive to supporting legacy ones. The two seemed to work be sympatico until Adobe decided they weren't.

                    • 7. Re: .DV Not supported? Or did the codec get deleted?
                      Jim_Simon Level 9

                      I'm not a software developer, so...I can't really speak to that.

                      • 8. Re: .DV Not supported? Or did the codec get deleted?
                        Daniel Seattle Level 1

                        Adobe claims that DV is still supported... but it is not. I spent an entire day today transcoding DV to ProRes in Compressor in order to edit a video in Premiere which contains some archive footage... from the 2000's!!!

                         

                        This is just plain wrong. An entire decade was shot in DV.

                        • 9. Re: .DV Not supported? Or did the codec get deleted?
                          lehestro Level 1

                          It's not an ideal solution, but there seems there never will be so... I reinstalled CC2017. It's much more stable and bug-free than 2018, and there's no real features that I miss going back a version. If you're just starting a project, I recommend it as a viable alternative to 2018.

                          • 10. Re: .DV Not supported? Or did the codec get deleted?
                            Stan Jones Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                            If anyone has a small sample .dv file they could share, I'm still looking at the conversion options. The only .dv sample I could find is corrupt.

                             

                            Also, to clarify, the problem files are .dv specifically, created by Macs. Those are not the only Mac digital video files, correct? And the others (some of the others?) still work?

                             

                            I agree, the documentation still shows .dv files as supported, and they do not appear to be any longer.

                            • 11. Re: .DV Not supported? Or did the codec get deleted?
                              Jim_Simon Level 9

                               

                              Adobe claims that DV is still supported... but it is not.

                               

                              DV files in the .avi or .mov container are the norm and should still work fine.  It's the .dv extension that is the issue.

                              • 12. Re: .DV Not supported? Or did the codec get deleted?
                                Daniel Seattle Level 1

                                No. The ones I am using are .avi files captured a decade ago on a Windows PC.

                                 

                                The latest version of Quicktime Player plays them without a problem. Only the Adobe suite doesn't.

                                 

                                The DV codec has NOT been deprecated by Apple, and the Library of Congress lists DV as one of the future-safe formats.

                                 

                                Adobe, what ...?

                                • 13. Re: .DV Not supported? Or did the codec get deleted?
                                  Stan Jones Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                                  Can you post a screenshot of mediainfo of one of the files using the tree View?

                                   

                                  I can import such AVIs into PR 2018.1.1.

                                   

                                  Edited.

                                  • 14. Re: .DV Not supported? Or did the codec get deleted?
                                    Jim_Simon Level 9

                                    The ones I am using are .avi files captured a decade ago on a Windows PC.

                                     

                                    Those will work fine on a Windows machine.

                                     

                                    On a Mac, you need QuickTime DV files.

                                    • 16. Re: .DV Not supported? Or did the codec get deleted?
                                      Stan Jones Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                                      Mine are very similar.

                                       

                                      Jim's point, I can't remember if there was a simpler conversion. For example, PR wants (like these) AVI Type 2. Seems to me Mac worked with type 1?

                                       

                                      In QuickTime look for an output option that just rewraps it.

                                      • 17. Re: .DV Not supported? Or did the codec get deleted?
                                        edc6916999 Level 1

                                        The daftest comment from Adobe on their page that announces the dropping of QuickTime 7 is in the "Workarounds" section:

                                        • "For import formats, transcode legacy footage to a newer codec."

                                         

                                        How can you do this when Media Encoder ISN'T accepting the files anymore?

                                         

                                        Thinking of going back to Avid or training on FCX.

                                        • 18. Re: .DV Not supported? Or did the codec get deleted?
                                          juanmario Level 4

                                          An AVI DV is not a legacy codec, in Windows it works fine., Premiere 12.1.2.

                                           

                                          Format                                   : AVI

                                          Format/Info                              : Audio Video Interleave

                                          Commercial name                          : DVCPRO     <----------- Generated in QuickTime

                                          File size                                : 96.8 MiB

                                          Duration                                 : 27 s 840 ms

                                          Overall bit rate mode                    : Constant

                                          Overall bit rate                         : 29.2 Mb/s

                                           

                                          Video

                                          ID                                       : 0

                                          Format                                   : DV

                                          Commercial name                          : DVCPRO

                                          Codec ID                                 : dvsd             <----------- DV

                                          Codec ID/Hint                            : Sony          <----------- DV

                                          Duration                                 : 27 s 840 ms

                                          Bit rate mode                            : Constant

                                          Bit rate                                 : 24.4 Mb/s

                                          Encoded bit rate                         : 28.8 Mb/s

                                          Width                                    : 720 pixels

                                          Height                                   : 576 pixels

                                          Display aspect ratio                     : 4:3

                                          Frame rate mode                          : Constant

                                          Frame rate                               : 25.000 FPS

                                          Standard                                 : PAL

                                          Color space                              : YUV

                                          Chroma subsampling                       : 4:1:1

                                          Bit depth                                : 8 bits

                                          Scan type                                : Interlaced

                                          Scan order                               : Bottom Field First

                                          Compression mode                         : Lossy

                                          Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 2.357

                                          Time code of first frame                 : 00:00:00:00

                                          Time code source                         : Subcode time code

                                          Stream size                              : 95.6 MiB (99%)

                                           

                                          AVI DV Premiere

                                          Format                                   : AVI

                                          Format/Info                              : Audio Video Interleave

                                          Commercial name                          : DV

                                          File size                                : 8.47 MiB

                                          Duration                                 : 2 s 336 ms

                                          Overall bit rate mode                    : Constant

                                          Overall bit rate                         : 30.4 Mb/s

                                          Recorded date                            : 2018-08-18T01:34:53-03:00

                                          Writing application                      : Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2018.1 (Windows)

                                           

                                          Video

                                          ID                                       : 0

                                          Format                                   : DV

                                          Codec ID                                 : dvsd             <----------- DV

                                          Codec ID/Hint                            : Sony          <----------- DV

                                          Duration                                 : 2 s 336 ms

                                          Bit rate mode                            : Constant

                                          Bit rate                                 : 24.4 Mb/s

                                          Encoded bit rate                         : 28.8 Mb/s

                                          Width                                    : 720 pixels

                                          Height                                   : 480 pixels

                                          Display aspect ratio                     : 4:3

                                          Frame rate mode                          : Constant

                                          Frame rate                               : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS

                                          Original frame rate                      : 29.970 (29970/1000) FPS

                                          Standard                                 : NTSC

                                          Color space                              : YUV

                                          Chroma subsampling                       : 4:1:1

                                          Bit depth                                : 8 bits

                                          Scan type                                : Interlaced

                                          Scan order                               : Bottom Field First

                                          Compression mode                         : Lossy

                                          Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 2.357

                                          Time code of first frame                 : 00:00:00:00 / 00:00:00:00

                                          Time code source                         : Adobe tc_A / Adobe tc_O

                                          Stream size                              : 8.01 MiB (95%)

                                          • 19. Re: .DV Not supported? Or did the codec get deleted?
                                            RjL190365 Level 5

                                            Actually, that was a move on Apple's part. Not Adobe's. Already, with the release of the newest version of OSX 10.14, 32-bit app support has been completely dropped, requiring all processes to utilize all 64 bits. QuickTime 7, on the other hand, is restricted to only 32 bits in operation. This will also be reflected in the newest versions of iMovie and FCP, which will be expected to completely drop QT7-era codec support as well. This, unfortunately, is part of a larger computer-industry-wide effort to rid itself of legacy support. Already, nVidia (on the Windows side) is no longer releasing new drivers for 32-bit operating systems, and any newer drivers now require full 64-bit support.

                                            • 20. Re: .DV Not supported? Or did the codec get deleted?
                                              juanmario Level 4

                                              Here is the list of codecs that are supported natively.

                                               

                                              32-Bit QuickTime Support Ending - Premiere v12.0.0