8 Replies Latest reply on May 7, 2018 7:13 AM by Todd Shaner

    Image edits are not appearing the same as in older LR

    mattr97931751

      I just updated from an older version of LR to LR Classic CC and I can see a significant difference in my image edits vs the old version - despite making the same changes to the images.  Why are my adjustments not the same?  They look flatter and I can't get the same contrast.  It also visually appears that my images are clipping in blacks well before the histogram shows clipping warnings.  What is wrong?!

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        • 1. Re: Image edits are not appearing the same as in older LR
          JohanEl54 Adobe Community Professional

          Try using a different profile at the top of the Basic Panel (use the profile browser to see all of them). Adobe Color is now the default, not Adobe Standard, so that might be a reason.

           

          The other reason is that Lightroom Classic has a different 'Process Version', with different sliders. That means that you can never have the exact same result, there will always be some small differences.

          • 2. Re: Image edits are not appearing the same as in older LR
            JimHess Adobe Community Professional & MVP

            Did you allow Lightroom to update the process version to the current version? If you did, that could account for the change. Just a thought.

            • 3. Re: Image edits are not appearing the same as in older LR
              richardplondon Level 4

              The LR Classic screenshot shows a "lightning bolt" icon below the histogram, which indicates that this image has not (yet) been brought up to latest process version. Clicking this icon will do so; whereupon the icon disappears for this image.

               

              Moving to the new PV would then require some re-processing to get to the desired appearance. The available adjustments, and even the effective meanings of those adjustments which appear under the same name, are rather different.

               

              Just in case the OP is unaware: these two Catalogs are independent now, even so far as edits which are being applied to the same Raw file on disk.

               

              So far as what's seen, perhaps the display preview is a little differently handled, or the way the software talks to the computer's colour management. But I would expect under the same PV, if all of the Develop adjustments are identical, to see the same sampler numbers under the histogram for the same point in the picture. That's sort of the point, of a Process Version.

               

              Still once adapted to it, the newer PV does offer some very nice processing options which may be worth the trouble of re-processing (some) images. As needed, individually - since it's no problem to have different process versions coexisting within the same Catalog: given that the Basic panel alters itself to suit, as you work.

              • 4. Re: Image edits are not appearing the same as in older LR
                Bob Somrak Level 6

                Your screen shots show that in Lightroom 4 you are using either process version (PV)   PV1(2003) or PV2(2010) because your are using the Fill Light and Recovery sliders. Lightroom 4 is capable of using PV3(1012) which is closer to using PV4(2018) which you are using in CC 7.3.1 on your top photo.   The corrections from the NEW sliders (Highlight, shadows, whites and blacks etc) is way different that you get with the OLD sliders (Fill Light and Recovery).  From my experience, the new sliders are way better.  I don't think you will ever match the new and old renditions.

                Between the new sliders/process versions and Profiles as said above your chance of matching is nil.  You should actually uninstall Lightroom 4 and if you want to use to old sliders just set the process version to PV2 (2010) in Lightroom CC

                • 5. Re: Image edits are not appearing the same as in older LR
                  JohanEl54 Adobe Community Professional

                  richardplondon  wrote

                   

                  The LR Classic screenshot shows a "lightning bolt" icon below the histogram, which indicates that this image has not (yet) been brought up to latest process version. Clicking this icon will do so; whereupon the icon disappears for this image.

                  True, but the process versions are different nevertheless. The Lightroom 4 screenshot shows the old ‘Fill Light’ and ‘Recovery‘ sliders. The Lightroom Classic screenshot shows the current sliders.

                  • 6. Re: Image edits are not appearing the same as in older LR
                    richardplondon Level 4

                    The screenshot shows the current interface, but the Tone sliders aren't visible - these are all that would change under an old PV.

                    • 7. Re: Image edits are not appearing the same as in older LR
                      JohanEl54 Adobe Community Professional

                      Yes, you are correct. The PV could still be that very old one. The History shows that he deliberately changed to the old PV in Lightroom 4, but of course he may have done the same with the other image in Lr Classic and not update that either.

                      • 8. Re: Image edits are not appearing the same as in older LR
                        Todd Shaner Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                        mattr97931751  wrote

                         

                        I just updated from an older version of LR to LR Classic CC and I can see a significant difference in my image edits vs the old version - despite making the same changes to the images.  Why are my adjustments not the same?  They look flatter and I can't get the same contrast.  It also visually appears that my images are clipping in blacks well before the histogram shows clipping warnings.  What is wrong?!

                        Lots of information and suggestions have been provided, but let's go back to basics. You're images edited in LR 4 (or any other previous version) should look identical when viewed inside LR Classic 7.3.1. Your image files are NOT automatically updated to the new process version unless you've done so manually. There's also no need to uninstall LR 4 until you are totally comfortable with LR 7 and sure everything in your catalog has been correctly imported into it. First we need to determine what's causing the differences between LR 4 & 7.

                         

                        LR 7 has added graphics processor support, which can cause screen rendering issues on some systems and when using older graphics drivers. To check for this open LR Classic 7.3.1 and go menu Edit> Preferences> Performance and uncheck 'Use Graphics Processor.' Compare an image file that has been edited in LR 4, but NOT edited in LR7. Do they now look the same, but are different if you go back and check 'Use Graphics Processor?'