4 Replies Latest reply on Jan 12, 2009 12:44 AM by Fetch

    ActivMail (cf_mail) and Bare LF problem

    rdk8487 Level 1
      I am successfully using the cf_mail tag (from ActivMail) to deliver hundreds or thousands of emails at a time. However, a very small percentage of the emails get bounced. This never happened when I used the standard cfmail tag with ColdFusion MX7. Can anyone suggest what I need to do to tweak the tag to stop this?

      Here's an example. The URL in the message is where the problems is listed as being with Bare LFs.
      See http://pobox.com/~djb/docs/smtplf.html.

      >Your message has encountered delivery problems
      >to the following recipient(s):
      >
      >jkellman@blahblah.com
      >(Was addressed to jkellman@blahblah.com)
      >Delivery failed after 43 attempts within 2 days 4 hours and 37 minutes451
      >See http://pobox.com/~djb/docs/smtplf.html.
      >
      >
      >Failed to deliver to domain kellman.com after 43 tries.
      >Last error was:
      >No recipients were successfully delivered to.
        • 1. Re: ActivMail (cf_mail) and Bare LF problem
          Fetch Level 1
          I've never heard of this problem with ActivMail, but I suspect you're simply overloading it. Try scaling back the number of messages you send at one time and see if that reduces the number of bounces.

          You may want to check out coolfusion.com - I believe houseoffusion.com used IMS software from there to handle their large mailing lists.

          Alternatively, an actual list server program would be even better - find one that can access email addresses from a common database format that you're using and then use CF to 'execute' the list by sending a single message, instead of relying on CF to send ALL the messages for you. No matter how good a CF tag is at sending mail a commercial SMTP program, especially one designed with bulk mailing in mind, will always do better.
          • 2. Re: ActivMail (cf_mail) and Bare LF problem
            Level 7
            I've never heard of this problem with ActivMail, but I suspect you're simply
            overloading it. Try scaling back the number of messages you send at one time
            and see if that reduces the number of bounces.

            You may want to check out coolfusion.com - I believe houseoffusion.com used
            IMS software from there to handle their large mailing lists.

            Alternatively, an actual list server program would be even better - find one
            that can access email addresses from a common database format that you're using
            and then use CF to 'execute' the list by sending a single message, instead of
            relying on CF to send ALL the messages for you. No matter how good a CF tag is
            at sending mail a commercial SMTP program, especially one designed with bulk
            mailing in mind, will always do better.

            • 3. Re: ActivMail (cf_mail) and Bare LF problem
              rdk8487 Level 1
              I don't think it's really a case of overloading. I don't have any broadcasts that are more than 2,500 and I get this message even when the run is 400 or so.
              • 4. Re: ActivMail (cf_mail) and Bare LF problem
                Fetch Level 1
                I would have to stick with my original answer then - ditch ActivMail in favor of using a real list server program; it will get you more 'bang for your buck' anyway.