10 Replies Latest reply on Jul 14, 2018 11:03 AM by brittanyr10202118

    Getting AEP into Resolve

    brittanyr10202118

      After wasting my entire day searching online for this answer, I finally realized asking you guys would be more direct.  Ever do that?  Sheesh, when will I learn?

       

      I'm ready to jump the adobe ship as I just can't justify the non-sustainable never ending subscription.  So I've downloaded Davinci Resolve (free version) that I'll try out until my adobe runs out next week and see if I like it.

       

      I've been going through all my files, trying to figure out what formats to save all my different files in that will be transferable to other software- i.e., PSD, ID, PPro, AUD.

       

      I think I've mostly got things covered.  Except for AEP's.  I'm having trouble figuring out what to do with them.  Specifically, I bought some color grade aep's off Envato for my projects, as well as some graphics packages.

       

      Color grading: https://videohive.net/item/20-advanced-color-grading-effects/7358833

      Graphic Titles: https://videohive.net/item/quick-titles/8592373

       

      How can I use these once my CC subscription ends?  Is there a format I can save them in so my purchase isn't wasted?

      Looking forward to some wisdom.  Thanks in advance!

        • 1. Re: Getting AEP into Resolve
          Rick Gerard Adobe Community Professional & MVP

          There is no way to transfer an AEP to resolve. You'll have to render the elements you want to keep to a suitable production format and use them that way. Many of the ***** can be used.

           

          Resolve is not a motion graphics and compositing app like AE is so you may find things you can't do with it, but it is pretty powerful. I use it several times a month.

          • 2. Re: Getting AEP into Resolve
            brittanyr10202118 Level 1

            Thank you for the response, Rick.  I'm a little confused- your reply says many of the **** can be used- what is * referring to? 

            And, forgive my ignorance, but what does it mean to render the elements to keep in a suitable prod. format?

             

            So, even with Resolves addition of Fusion for graphics, etc, I wouldn't find a crossover?

            • 3. Re: Getting AEP into Resolve
              Mylenium Most Valuable Participant

              Just the forum's anti-vulgarity algorithm going haywire. You have to render to lossless formats like PSDs, TIFFs, EXRs and import those into resolve and Fusion, respectively. That's all rick is (presumably) saying. Of course all editable data and parametric definitions will be lost. It will be just pixels. There are scripts and plug-ins that exchange some datae across the programs, but none of that does you any good. The Free versions of Fu and Res do not support plug-ins or scripting extensions just like of course you'd still need AE in some form as a source to transfer data via clipboard like transferring keyframes. You're running in circles on that one if you don't plan on signing up to AE on a permanent basis, annoying as the subscription model may be.

               

              Mylenium

              • 4. Re: Getting AEP into Resolve
                brittanyr10202118 Level 1

                Thanks, M, I think I get it.  If I like Resolve/Fusion, I would be more than happy to pay a one-time price to buy it, rather than this never-ending subscription nonsense.  Is there more capability for plug-ins and such if I do so?

                • 5. Re: Getting AEP into Resolve
                  Rick Gerard Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                  In the end, keeping software up to date is something that should be part of your monthly budget. I subscribe to the entire CC suite and my annual budget for Adobe products is actually less than it was when I was buying annual licenses. If you are producing videos as a hobby then you have to decide what you want to spend on that nonessential part of your life. If you think Adobe is expensive you should see what I have to pay for the other software it takes to keep me in business.

                   

                  Oh, and yes, you get more with the paid versions. Resolve studio is about $300 and just AE is about 300 so if you compare it to AE and Premiere Pro its about half the cost, but the entire creative suite is only about $600, so it's a great value for a professional. Who knows what it is going to cost the next time some other developer updates their software. Updates cost money and you can't give it away for free and stay in business. If you are a student it's incredibly cheap. It costs less than a daily trip to the coffee shop.

                   

                  Don't get me wrong. Adobe has a long way to go to get its software bug-free and make it fully utilize all resources, but the CC suite is by far the least expensive part of my business. If I could just get my E&O insurance as cheaply I'd be a happy man.

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                  • 6. Re: Getting AEP into Resolve
                    Dave Merchant MVP & Adobe Community Professional

                    https://forums.adobe.com/people/Rick+Gerard  wrote

                     

                    Resolve studio is about $300 and just AE is about 300 so if you compare it to AE and Premiere Pro its about half the cost, but the entire creative suite is only about $600, so it's a great value for a professional. Who knows what it is going  to cost the next time some other developer updates their software.  Updates cost money and you can't give it away for free and stay in  business

                    You're glossing over the crucial fact that Blackmagic's prices are for perpetual licenses. You pay once, and they absolutely DO give the updates away for free. If you bought a key for Resolve 11 years ago, you can install Resolve 15 with it. With CC you pay $640 every year. Adobe gives you more tools in the box, but the box is vastly more expensive if you plan to keep it.

                     

                    It's perfectly possible to replace almost all of the CC applications with free or non-subscription products, but there's no getting away from the fact that most of Adobe's tools use proprietary file formats to store project data, so third party vendors can't import them even if they wanted to. You can easily edit and grade the same movie with Resolve/Fusion or Premiere/AE, but you can't just 'convert' midway through. Same with plugins - the VFX industry is aligning itself around the Open Effects (OFX) standard so that the same plugin will work across a whole range of editing suites, but the big red A has stayed away.

                     

                    So by all means migrate to or from Creative Cloud, but do it early and do it once.

                    • 7. Re: Getting AEP into Resolve
                      dj.summitt Adobe Community Professional

                      Fusion is VERY limited in plug-ins. Very limited. Also limited in the community. That said, in some cases Fusion's node-based workflow allows advanced users to do some things you need a plug-in for in AE. But, that's at a very high level.

                      • 8. Re: Getting AEP into Resolve
                        Rick Gerard Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                         

                        You're glossing over the crucial fact that Blackmagic's prices are for perpetual licenses.

                        I have never seen Perpetual licenses last very long. At some point, BlackMagic is going to release an update that is going to cost you. They are still new players in the game, and though they are gaining industry acceptance, unless you move to Nuke or something similar and plan to spend up to $10K per year per seat, Adobe is the most accepted and widest used production software in the world. Whining about the price doesn't impress me very much.

                         

                        I used to have a perpetual license for a bunch of my software and even though some promised "never pay for an update," sure enough, eventually I had to pay for updates. Some, not all, switched to annual plans that run in the thousands per seat. There is no free lunch forever. If it stays free, it will eventually mold or sower and you wouldn't want to eat it.

                         

                        Again, You can get the entire CC suite for less than the cost of a few trips to Starbucks a month, and you know that the company is always working to improve the product. Sometimes they issue bad updates, but so do the firms that provide perpetual licenses. If video production is a hobby then you have to decide if you want to pay the price. If it a business then the CC suite is a very small, almost insignificant piece of the cost of doing business unless you are charging less than $10/hour for your time.

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                        • 9. Re: Getting AEP into Resolve
                          Dave Merchant MVP & Adobe Community Professional

                          BM has a totally different business model to Adobe, they don't need to make any profit from software. Plus a perpetual license is precisely that - it doesn't stop working just because you stop applying updates. The only reason a program you download today would stop working is if some future operating system completely broke backwards compatibility. Even the bastion of forced upgrades that is Windows still happily runs apps written a decade ago.

                           

                          Some people prefer to pay for a subscription plan because it can be set against operational expenses rather than CAPEX for tax reporting, but that is their choice. There's no denying it costs more over the lifetime to rent than buy - software, houses, cars, horses, everything. If someone wants perpetual licenses, they simply cannot be an Adobe customer so there's nothing lost by guiding them to the most suitable alternatives.

                          • 10. Re: Getting AEP into Resolve
                            brittanyr10202118 Level 1

                            Thanks everyone for chiming in.  Didn't mean to get into an Adobe vs BM discussion, but I'm with many of you- perpetual license FTW.  I've been scouring online- CL, Ebay, Facebook Marketplace to buy an older version of creative suite so that I can own the software and not have to keep bending over for Adobe each month, but they are simply not to be had.  The few out there are counterfeit and unreliable.  I'll take what's available to me now, at a very reasonable price, and mine to own, not to rent.  Even if they decide to move on in the future, I've still got my copy ranging from free to $299, so suck it adobe.