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    Fujifilm X-T3

    stover14 Level 1

      I have just purchased a new Fujifilm X-T3 & cannot upload the RAF files to Lightroom, I can on my X-Pro2.

       

      I have updated the latest versions of Lightroom & mac up dates too, still no luck.

       

      Please can any one suggest a solution?

       

      Thanks

       

      Tim

        • 1. Re: Fujifilm X-T3
          John Waller Adobe Community Professional & MVP

          Lightroom does not yet support the X-T3. It will soon.

           

          Cameras supported by Camera Raw

          Fuji XT-3 RAW files

           

          You'll have to use Fujifilm's own software until support is added to Lightroom.

          FUJIFILM X RAW STUDIO Ver.1.3.0 Installer for Mac | Fujifilm Global

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          • 2. Re: Fujifilm X-T3
            obscurity7 Level 1

            I've never been on the cutting edge of a brand new camera before, so I don't know what "soon" means.  How long does it usually take for Camera Raw to get the update after a new release?

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            • 3. Re: Fujifilm X-T3
              JimHess Adobe Community Professional & MVP

              Nothing official here, but I'm guessing it will be 4-6 weeks before the next Camera Raw update.

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              • 4. Re: Fujifilm X-T3
                ggrossman_photo Level 1

                I am thinking of buying the Fuji X-T3 (currently have X-Pro2), but may delay if I have to wait 4-6 weeks before I can process the XT3 RAW files in LR Classic CC and PS CC (and Topaz Studio). 

                 

                What does the Adobe DNG Converter do? Does that only work with older versions of LR and PS?

                 

                I am working under Windows 10 not MAC.

                 

                HELP... is there no workaround until Adobe updates its Camera Raw.

                • 5. Re: Fujifilm X-T3
                  JimHess Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                  The DNG converter will create digital negative (DNG) copies of raw files that many users prefer to use in lieu of the native raw files. They are usually smaller and more portable in that they are in a standard container. Many users use them because they are using older versions of Lightroom or Camera Raw that do not support the latest camera models, and that is one of the benefits of the DNG format. It can be backward compatible. However, new camera models must wait for the release of the latest DNG converter to be supported by it. And it will be released at the same time Lightroom and Camera Raw are updated so even the DNG converter isn't a solution right now. Unfortunately, as far as the Adobe software is concerned, it's simply a waiting game. There's nothing that can be done to expedite things.

                  • 6. Re: Fujifilm X-T3
                    stefanw21315169 Level 1

                    Or use the open source software Darktable or RawTherapee which support the X-T3 even before it was officially available on the market Doesn't cost you a cent and bridges the time till Adobe finally releases the update. Just make sure you install the most recent development version and not the latest stable version.

                    • 7. Re: Fujifilm X-T3
                      TandemBob Level 1

                      You can buy Iridient X-transformer which  converts your X-T3 RAF files to DNG.  Program coast $29.95

                      • 8. Re: Fujifilm X-T3
                        TandemBob Level 1

                        You can buy Iridient X-transformer which  converts your X-T3 RAF files to DNG.  Program coast $29.95 

                        • 9. Re: Fujifilm X-T3
                          dpmentor Level 1

                          SO I tried everything last night to open my new XT3 raw files. Even Adobe's DNG converter doesn't recognize them yet. Fuji's software does but I'm not going there.

                           

                          However - one software DID open them. Guess which one? Scroll down for the answer . . .

                           

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                          Luminar by Skylum - it opened my XT3 files no problems!

                          • 10. Re: Fujifilm X-T3
                            John Waller Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                            Luminar by Skylum - it opened my XT3 files no problems!

                            Interesting.

                             

                            Even Luminar's own documentation does not list the X-T3 as being supported yet.

                            https://media.macphun.com/uploads/uploads/luminar/Supported_cameras_Luminar_2018_121.pdf

                            • 11. Re: Fujifilm X-T3
                              dpmentor Level 1

                              yeah the colors were a little funky but it DID open it

                              • 12. Re: Fujifilm X-T3
                                John Waller Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                                I wonder if Luminar is opening it because the code it's reading is very close to existing Raw formats and therefore readable - but not officially supported yet. Just a guess.

                                • 13. Re: Fujifilm X-T3
                                  ggrossman_photo Level 1

                                  Iridient software worked for me. $29.99

                                  Georgette.

                                  • 14. Re: Fujifilm X-T3
                                    owen-b Level 1

                                    Like others say Iridient X Transformer will covert the raws to dng for you to open in LR, but: bear in mind the dng will be around three or four times the size of the raw file, not smaller, due to the mosaiced method Fuji uses to encode the RGB data in their raw files; and none of the Fuji film simulations will be available for the dng in LR because LR still doesn’t have any X-T3 profiles yet.

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                                    • 15. Re: Fujifilm X-T3
                                      johnskewes Level 1

                                      Hello-

                                      Lightroom is the wrong tool to use for Fujiflim RAW files - even if LR could interpret them.

                                      Lightroom is notorious for making a meat pie out of Fuji files - horrible in fact.

                                      Save yourself a lot of angst and read Thomas Fitzgerald's excellent article.

                                      https://blog.thomasfitzgeraldphotography.com/blog/2017/3/updated-iridient-x-transformer-se ttings

                                      After reading the article, purchase Iridient X-Transformer (X - for Fuji-X Iridient has transformers for other brands too.)

                                      Iridient X-Transformer costs $29 and can be used on 2 computers.

                                       

                                      Personally I don't care if Adobe EVER supports Fuji RAW - there are a number of other programs that do a much better job.

                                      LR is a great product - use it after you have converted to DNG.

                                      • 16. Re: Fujifilm X-T3
                                        owen-b Level 1

                                        Depends *entirely* on what sort of photography you're doing, John.

                                         

                                        Trust me I’ve read everything about LR, Iridient, C1, everything, and all of TF’s great articles.

                                         

                                        Unfortunately that tool is completely unsuitable for my work. As a wedding and event photographer I am working with hundreds and hundreds of culled raw files at a time. Converting an XT3 raf to dng almost quadruples the size of each file. Multiply that by say 500 minimum, more like 700, and easily 900 before a final cull during the editing process, and it’s generating a completely impractical amount of data for me to store. I'd say I'd end up with at least 3-4TB of data per year to store, whereas with raf files it's just 1TB on average.

                                         

                                        Also, hate to say it, but I’ve tried a bunch of Iridient settings and to be honest at the size my clients are viewing and printing their files the difference, while occasionally noticeable at 100% if you know where to look, doesn’t warrant the extra storage space I’d need to invest in.

                                         

                                        So, it's almost definitely worth it for the hobbyist, and for professionals who work with a very limited number of finished files per shoot where the small, localised improvements Iridient makes in very specific areas of the image are part and parcel of the work they're delivering. But not for me.

                                         

                                        And frankly, LR really isn't as bad as you make out. It absolutely isn't "a meat pie, horrible in fact".

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                                        • 17. Re: Fujifilm X-T3
                                          johnskewes Level 1

                                          Hi - I totally understand...
                                          Yes - if you turn sharpening off it's okay. And yes, I fall under the category of hobbyist/professional and do not handle the number of files you do. I've used LR for some time, and gotten good results, but using other means to handle the RAFs, prior to LR, has given me better (more pleasing to me) results with fewer steps and less fussing.
                                          Thanks for calling BS on me as needed!!...there's always more than one way...
                                          /john  

                                          • 18. Re: Fujifilm X-T3
                                            owen-b Level 1

                                            Not BS by any means, just a subjective opinion based on a particular taste and way of working!

                                            • 19. Re: Fujifilm X-T3
                                              BastianKlein Level 1

                                              Also does Capture One! Guys at Adobe, what's wrong? You're calling and claiming yourself the market leaders in photography post-processing. X-T3 is out for a while yet. Also, others proofed being able to make it happen.

                                               

                                              What's the roadmap saying for this please??

                                              • 20. Re: Fujifilm X-T3
                                                owen-b Level 1

                                                Chill my man/woman. Adobe don't churn out a new release for every single new camera that's released the moment it's released. It'll be in whatever the next update is, which at the moment seems to be every couple of months (June, August... October?). It just so happens that Capture One have just done a big tie-in with Fuji so their new release was bound to have X-T3 built in as they'll have been working closely with Fuji to get this deal done. ACR beta has been working with the X-T3 files but that isn't available to the public (DPReview had access a few weeks ago and it was clearly not ready yet).

                                                 

                                                Also, there is no 'roadmap' for Adobe LR. Just be patient.

                                                • 21. Re: Fujifilm X-T3
                                                  TandemBob Level 1

                                                  If I remember correctly, Adobe released updates to new cameras more promptly before the subscription.  They didn't have to wait to make fixes to photoshop. 

                                                  • 22. Re: Fujifilm X-T3
                                                    MCB1975 Level 1

                                                    I have exactly the same issue with my XT3.

                                                     

                                                    Presumably if I shoot in JPEG rather than RAW, Lightroom will be able to process the JPEG files out of the camera? (I can test this of course, just wondered if anyone had tried it).

                                                    • 23. Re: Fujifilm X-T3
                                                      BastianKlein Level 1

                                                      Yes, that’s gonna work. The JPEG sooc is a no brainer for Lightroom here.

                                                      You May want to go with Capture One for Fuji Express for a while. It’s free of charge and allows basic adjustments for your Fuji RAW from the X-T3.

                                                      Having said this, I fell in love and just started evaluating C1 Pro as it seems to me to handle Fuji RAW much more better than Lr does/did since I started using it.

                                                      Sorry to say, as I really  like the Adobe Ecosystem!!!

                                                      • 24. Re: Fujifilm X-T3
                                                        JimHess Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                                                        TandemBob  wrote

                                                         

                                                        If I remember correctly, Adobe released updates to new cameras more promptly before the subscription.  They didn't have to wait to make fixes to photoshop. 

                                                        I don't think so. Camera Raw and Lightroom have always been updated and released at the same time. Camera Raw is for Photoshop, and Lightroom and Photoshop have always needed to be kept synchronized even before the subscription model.

                                                        • 25. Re: Fujifilm X-T3
                                                          johnskewes Level 1

                                                          Seriously - Iridient X-Transformer does a great job. See my post above - and yes, it does make the files larger (and if you are a pro shooter shooting hundreds of frames, it is probably not practical) - but lightroom reads them and Iridient X-Transformer should probably be in your toolbox anyway. At $29 - it is well worth it.
                                                          No tool does it all.

                                                          The fuji jpegs are gorgeous - but sometimes you want the raw stock.

                                                          -peace

                                                          /john

                                                          • 26. Re: Fujifilm X-T3
                                                            gh@gordonhunter.co.uk Level 1

                                                            You've obviously not used Lightroom recently then. It works very well with Fuji RAW (RAF) files. IMHO Irridient is absolutely awful for my work (portraits). Makes a complete pig's ear out of skin, regardless of settings. Using Irridient actually increases my workflow, s I have to go and fix what it screwed up. I'll stick with LR and wait for the Camera Raw update for the X-T3.

                                                             

                                                            Also DNG Converter doesn't recognise the X-T3 files either. It says "The source folder does not contain any camera raw supported files....

                                                            • 27. Re: Fujifilm X-T3
                                                              stover14 Level 1

                                                              Hi,

                                                              Updated L/R (Classic) last night & still the files are not recognised?? Am I doing something wrong?

                                                               

                                                              Cheers

                                                               

                                                              Tim

                                                              • 28. Re: Fujifilm X-T3
                                                                John Waller Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                                                                No. The X-T3 is still not yet supported in Lightroom. There has been no change on that since you started this discussion.

                                                                Cameras supported by Camera Raw

                                                                 

                                                                You'll have to wait until the next Lightroom update.

                                                                • 29. Re: Fujifilm X-T3
                                                                  stover14 Level 1

                                                                  Thanks,

                                                                   

                                                                  I actually got to speak with someone on the phone from Adobe support, they said up to three weeks

                                                                  • 30. Re: Fujifilm X-T3
                                                                    TimMBGreen Level 1

                                                                    Hi Owen,

                                                                     

                                                                    Agree. LR is definitely usable for Fuji X-Trans RAF files. One thing that a many users miss is that by default, LR will apply its own profile to imported RAW files. This used to be right down at the bottom of the Develop pane and was easy to miss. Now that it's up in the Basic section at the top of Develop it's easier to find. That's obviously not the only factor, but setting one of Fuji's own film profiles to the default goes a long way towards getting a much better starting point.

                                                                     

                                                                    On LR for Fuji generally: I'm just trying out Capture One Pro Fujifilm edition (which already supports XT3 RAF natively), and while I find it impressive in some aspects I'm not sure it's enough so for me to want to switch. They don't support the Fuji Film Profiles yet (although that is allegedly coming) and so far I haven't seen enough of a quality difference to make me want to abandon my PS/LR subscription and switch to the more expensive Capture One subscription. In many ways I still find LR faster and more intuitive to get good results with. However, much of that may be because I've been using LR for so long and am only just starting with CO.

                                                                    • 31. Re: Fujifilm X-T3
                                                                      johnskewes Level 1

                                                                      It may be time to switch - I have lately been feeling like I use Lightroom for the same reason people use MS Office - market saturation. MS, is in my humble opinion has a monopoly and behaves that way.  Is Adobe the same way? Are there more hungry companies, willing provide the tools people have been asking for?
                                                                      Fujifilm is a wonderful company that is product and customer centric - and they have worked closely with Capture One.

                                                                      With monthly subscription options, switching becomes a good option...you can always go back and don't need to take a $350 bath.

                                                                      Hmmm.....
                                                                      Rambling...

                                                                      • 32. Re: Fujifilm X-T3
                                                                        TimMBGreen Level 1

                                                                        Yes, it may be time to switch: I just discovered the skin tone color editor in Capture One. It is seriously, seriously awesome... :-0

                                                                        • 33. Re: Fujifilm X-T3
                                                                          alessiomichelini Level 1

                                                                          Am I the only one that has issues with Capture One? Most of the files get imported, but some of them are badly imported, like having a very purple tone or something like that.
                                                                          To be honest I have created so many presets, invested so much time on LR, that it would be hard for me to switch so easily to another software

                                                                          • 34. Re: Fujifilm X-T3
                                                                            TimMBGreen Level 1

                                                                            No import errors with Capture One Pro here so far, but I've only been testing it since the weekend. However, I have used it on a lot of XT3 and XT20 files without issue, both RAF and JPG. 

                                                                            • 35. Re: Fujifilm X-T3
                                                                              alessiomichelini Level 1

                                                                              I did some test shots this weekend and I had some strange results, I even tried Luminar, just for the sake to open files, and some files open some others don't...

                                                                              • 36. Re: Fujifilm X-T3
                                                                                greenj98 Level 1

                                                                                All I am getting on my card is the folder FFDB when opened I get FFXFER.Dat

                                                                                 

                                                                                Iridient X-Transformer.app does not work with this information.

                                                                                 

                                                                                The images were captured in both raw and jpeg and show up on the camera screen.

                                                                                 

                                                                                What am I doing wrong?

                                                                                • 37. Re: Fujifilm X-T3
                                                                                  Keske Level 1

                                                                                  I use this converter to open my X-T3 Raw-files with the Fuji film profiles and save it as a tiff. Then open it in LR, works fine for me till Adobe updates LR:

                                                                                   

                                                                                  RAW FILE CONVERTER | Fujifilm Global

                                                                                  • 38. Re: Fujifilm X-T3
                                                                                    missyk6529818 Level 1

                                                                                    This may be a dumb question however, once the XT3 RAW files are supported in LR, is there a difference in quality of the files between using an older LR version (I have 5.7.1) compared to the most current up to date LR with the monthly subscription?

                                                                                    • 39. Re: Fujifilm X-T3
                                                                                      JimHess Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                                                                                      The quality (in my opinion) has improved significantly since Lightroom 5.7.1. But when the camera is finally supported in the Lightroom it won't have any impact on Lightroom 5.7.1. it will only be supported in Classic and in the new Lightroom CC (the cloud-based Lightroom) after they have been updated. Lightroom 5.7.1 is no longer being supported in any way. That means there are no updates that will affect that version of Lightroom.

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