18 Replies Latest reply on Oct 11, 2018 4:04 PM by thedigitaldog

    File Size Limit

    BigDingus Level 1

      Hi all.

      I keep getting a message saying "Could not create a JPEG that met your 3000k bytes. Please increase the file size limit". As you see, I took it to 3000k but still got problems.

      I usually keep the limit to 1000k. I try to keep the size down for web pages.

      Does anyone know how to resolve this?

        • 1. Re: File Size Limit
          Sahil.Chawla Adobe Employee

          Hi there,

           

          Sorry to hear about the file size limit error, could you please share a screenshot of your export settings?

           

          Also, which exact version of Lightroom you're working on and which operating system are you using?

           

          Regards,
          Sahil

          • 2. Re: File Size Limit
            BigDingus Level 1

            It's 7.5 Release Camera Raw 10.5 on Windows 10 Pro

             

            screen_2018-10-11 17.22.32.jpg

            Hope this helps.

            • 3. Re: File Size Limit
              thedigitaldog MVP & Adobe Community Professional

              Just tried this on my Mac, no issue.

              Can you try saving to a different drive?

              • 4. Re: File Size Limit
                Sahil.Chawla Adobe Employee

                Could you please let us know the size (Width & Height) of the original image that you're trying to export?

                 

                The file size of the image is affected by the size of the image (The pixel aspect ration) as well as the quality of the image.

                 

                Could you try lowering the quality of the image and then set the file size limit and let us know if it helps?

                 

                If that doesn't help then try setting the quality to 100 and then let us know how it goes.

                • 5. Re: File Size Limit
                  BigDingus Level 1

                  TDD tried a different drive but same issue.

                  The original one was 31.1MB RAW at 3456 x 5184.

                  Not sure what you mean by 'Lower the quality'.

                  Exporting at 100% works fine. However, this gives a file size of 22.9mb, which is too big for a web site.

                  • 6. Re: File Size Limit
                    dj_paige Level 10

                    Firstly, no human can tell the difference between a JPG exported from a RAW at quality 100 (which is not 100%) and quality 80 without extreme magnification of the image. Furthermore, if you want this export to go to a web site, you don't need quality 100 anyway, and reducing the quality to 70 or 80 will greatly reduce the file size.

                     

                    If you really want to export for a web site, then reduce the dimensions of the exported photo in the Image Resizing section.

                     

                    But the bottom line is that you can't export this 3456x5184 image at quality 100 and get it to be less than 3MB. Impossible. That's what Lightroom is saying. You have to change at least one of your settings somewhere.

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                    • 7. Re: File Size Limit
                      thedigitaldog MVP & Adobe Community Professional

                      BigDingus  wrote

                      Not sure what you mean by 'Lower the quality'.

                      Instead of setting it to 100 in quality, try 85 or so. Even if that doesn't work, here's why:

                      Jeffrey Friedl's Blog » Lightroom JPEG Export-Quality Settings, Full-Resolution Examples

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                      • 8. Re: File Size Limit
                        BigDingus Level 1

                        Ok guys.

                        dj.

                        I rarely use 100 quality when exporting. I usually use 1000K as anything bigger slows everything down if there are lots of images to download. I only tried it as it was requested suggested earlier.

                        My problem isn't exporting at 100 quality. It's exporting at 1000k. web pages don't need anything like perfect quality. Especially on modern devices. Hence 1000k is usually fine.

                         

                        TDD

                        Good link.

                        • 9. Re: File Size Limit
                          thedigitaldog MVP & Adobe Community Professional

                          Indeed, I see that the quality for JPEG isn't 100 in your screen capture so that's certainly not it. And as I said, on this end, no issues. So one of the old standbys is deleting LR preferences just for grins, can't hurt, sometimes helps:

                          https://www.lightroomqueen.com/how-do-i-reset-lightrooms-preferences/

                          • 10. Re: File Size Limit
                            thedigitaldog MVP & Adobe Community Professional

                            On my end, on the Mac, I also see something odd I've never noticed. And I see it on your end too. When you select Limit File Size, the Quality slider grays out, and I have no idea why. Also on my end, when I type "3000" into K field, it resets to 3,000 but yours under windows shows 3000. OK subtle differences but odd and I suspect that's a bug (the two OSs should appear the same).

                            I set my export dialog exactly as you did (from what I can see, some areas are closed) and again, it works.

                            • 11. Re: File Size Limit
                              dj_paige Level 10

                              Ok, so you are not exporting at quality 100.

                               

                              The problem you are having is that it is impossible to take your original RAW image and export it with the settings you have chosen, and get an exported JPG that is 3M or less. Impossible. That is what Lightroom is telling you.

                              • 12. Re: File Size Limit
                                BigDingus Level 1

                                TDD. I can export any quality, all the way up to 100 without a problem.

                                I can also set the k size up to 10,000k and lightroom accepts the input. It just fails to do it.

                                I tried your presets link but none worked.

                                I also just tried increasing the size of the K export. It now works at 2000 and above where it didn't before.

                                I can live with 2000.

                                I think there is indeed a bug.

                                 

                                Cheers for helping guys.

                                • 13. Re: File Size Limit
                                  Per Berntsen Adobe Community Professional

                                  The Quality slider is greyed out when Limit file size to is checked, and it just displays the last setting used without Limit file size checked. Quality is set automatically when Limit file size is checked, and I guess it will use the highest possible setting that doesn't exceed the file size you have entered.

                                   

                                  My guess is that the jpg cannot be created because of the nature of the image.

                                  Because of the way jpg compression works, sharp and/or noisy, busy images will always result in larger file sizes than flat, soft images. (the difference in file size can be quite dramatic)

                                  And the high output sharpening you're using will also add to the file size.

                                   

                                  As pointed out by others, you should reduce pixel dimensions to something sensible when exporting for web.

                                  • 14. Re: File Size Limit
                                    D Fosse Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                                    thedigitaldog  wrote

                                     

                                    When you select Limit File Size, the Quality slider grays out, and I have no idea why.

                                    That would be natural, wouldn't it? With fixed pixel dimensions, no resizing, the compression (Quality) is the only variable left to meet the file size requirement. So it'll have to float. Or am I missing something?

                                     

                                    And of course, for web 3456 x 5184 is a bit optimistic, unless you want full screen on a 5K display. But then it would be 2x scaled by the browser anyway, and still appear way too large.

                                    • 15. Re: File Size Limit
                                      thedigitaldog MVP & Adobe Community Professional

                                      https://forums.adobe.com/people/D+Fosse  wrote

                                       

                                      thedigitaldog   wrote

                                       

                                      When you select Limit File Size, the Quality slider grays out, and I have no idea why.

                                      That would be natural, wouldn't it? With fixed pixel dimensions, no resizing, the compression (Quality) is the only variable left to meet the file size requirement. So it'll have to float. Or am I missing something?

                                       

                                      But the quality doesn't update no matter the size I enter. I have to unlock Limit File Size, then alter it, then enter a size. Why can't I enter a size and a quality for compression, or why doesn't it update if I alter the size? Dunno, never used this before in such a way.

                                      • 16. Re: File Size Limit
                                        JoeKostoss Adobe Community Professional

                                        BigDingus  wrote

                                         

                                        TDD tried a different drive but same issue.

                                        The original one was 31.1MB RAW at 3456 x 5184.

                                        Not sure what you mean by 'Lower the quality'.

                                        Exporting at 100% works fine. However, this gives a file size of 22.9mb, which is too big for a web site.

                                        dj-paige is correct in his post 11.

                                        The problem you are having is that it is impossible to take your original RAW image and export it with the settings you have chosen, and get an exported JPG that is 3M or less. Impossible. That is what Lightroom is telling you.

                                         

                                        You are trying to export at the original dimensions of 3456 x 5184 px and limit the file size to 3000k.  Lightroom is telling you it can't be done.  You have to either decrease the dimensions or increase the file size. 

                                        • 17. Re: File Size Limit
                                          Bob Somrak Level 6

                                          thedigitaldog  wrote

                                           

                                          https://forums.adobe.com/people/D+Fosse   wrote

                                           

                                          thedigitaldog    wrote

                                           

                                          When you select Limit File Size, the Quality slider grays out, and I have no idea why.

                                          That would be natural, wouldn't it? With fixed pixel dimensions, no resizing, the compression (Quality) is the only variable left to meet the file size requirement. So it'll have to float. Or am I missing something?

                                           

                                          But the quality doesn't update no matter the size I enter. I have to unlock Limit File Size, then alter it, then enter a size. Why can't I enter a size and a quality for compression, or why doesn't it update if I alter the size? Dunno, never used this before in such a way.

                                          When you chose “limit file size” isn’t the only thing Lr can change is the compression to try to get the size you designate?  This is the reason the slider is grayed out.

                                          • 18. Re: File Size Limit
                                            thedigitaldog MVP & Adobe Community Professional

                                            Yeah, graying out makes sense but seeing the previous setting confused me. I’d blank out any value but I see your point.