7 Replies Latest reply on Oct 21, 2018 3:40 PM by joshbLUMBER

    All edits missing from Develop Module but show in film strip icon

    joshbLUMBER Level 1

      So I'm gonna start off that I'm not that techy so my lingo may be off.  I cannot access any of my photos "edits" in Lightroom anymore from what it seems like the last three or so imports.  The film strip icons show crop and develop but the develop module has all setting still at zero.  The crop shows up in the develop module but not the edits with the sliders.  When the photos first load you can visually see the editing on the photos, then they disappear. Help please! I have searched this forum and many others but don't feel as if my issue has been presented or solved.  I'm hesitant about spending hours again developing to come back and find that they are all gone.  Thanks for anyone's help.

        • 1. Re: All edits missing from Develop Module but show in film strip icon
          WobertC Adobe Community Professional

          The film strip icons show crop and develop but the develop module has all setting still at zero.

          This sound to me like you are saving metadata to the files, removing them from the Catalog, and then re-importing them a second or third time.

          Could you be more specific about your workflow?

           

          Photos should only ever be imported ONCE, and never removed from the Catalog. Removing from the Catalog will delete all the editing steps and history, and when re-imported all the sliders are reset to zero. The editing you may see is the limited metadata from any saved metadata XMP file.

           

          Can you post your System Info from the Help Menu > System Info...

          • 2. Re: All edits missing from Develop Module but show in film strip icon
            joshbLUMBER Level 1

            Thanks for the quick reply.

             

            That could be the case.  The lightroom thing is a bit over my head and truthfully I don't even want to bother with the organizational aspect of the software.  I just want to edit photos and export them for printing and posting to social media.  I usually do the organizational stuff on the computer myself creating labeled folders that make sense to me.

             

            My workflow

             

            I click the + symbol next to Folders in the Library module, find the folder with my photos, import them all and delete the ones I don't want.  I then edit them all in Develop module, then remove the folder and close down the program and computer.  I do back ups most every time I close down the program.

             

            I have not changed this aspect of my workflow in three years and all of the previous years of files still have the edit files attached or visible.  I've literally check every folder.

            • 3. Re: All edits missing from Develop Module but show in film strip icon
              joshbLUMBER Level 1

              Hopefully this is what you were looking for.

               

              Lightroom Classic version: 7.4 [ 1176617 ]

              License: Creative Cloud

              Language setting: en

              Operating system: Windows 10 - Business Edition

              Version: 10.0.17134

              Application architecture: x64

              System architecture: x64

              Logical processor count: 6

              Processor speed: 3.6 GHz

              Built-in memory: 32688.3 MB

              Real memory available to Lightroom: 32688.3 MB

              Real memory used by Lightroom: 7805.1 MB (23.8%)

              Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 8175.1 MB

              GDI objects count: 893

              USER objects count: 2706

              Process handles count: 3095

              Memory cache size: 6994.7MB

              Internal Camera Raw revision: 976

              Maximum thread count used by Camera Raw: 4

              Camera Raw SIMD optimization: SSE2,AVX,AVX2

              Camera Raw virtual memory: 2455MB / 16344MB (15%)

              Camera Raw real memory: 2471MB / 32688MB (7%)

              System DPI setting: 96 DPI

              Desktop composition enabled: Yes

              Displays: 1) 1920x1200, 2) 1920x1200

              Input types: Multitouch: No, Integrated touch: No, Integrated pen: No, External touch: No, External pen: No, Keyboard: No

               

               

              Graphics Processor Info:

              DirectX: Intel(R) UHD Graphics 630 (24.20.100.6194)

               

               

               

               

               

               

              Application folder: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Lightroom Classic CC

              Library Path: C:\Users\Josh\Pictures\Lightroom\Lightroom Catalog-2.lrcat

              Settings Folder: C:\Users\Josh\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Lightroom

               

               

              Installed Plugins:

              1) AdobeStock

              2) Canon Tether Plugin

              3) Facebook

              4) Flickr

              5) Nikon Tether Plugin

               

               

              Config.lua flags: None

               

               

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              Device : 3e92

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              Video Memory : 128

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              AudioDeviceName: DELL U2415 (Intel(R) Display Audio)

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              GL_SHADING_LANGUAGE_VERSION: 4.50 - Build 24.20.100.6194

              GL_STENCIL_BITS: 8

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              • 4. Re: All edits missing from Develop Module but show in film strip icon
                WobertC Adobe Community Professional

                Yes your workflow is totally wrong! despite the fact you may have been using it for "years".

                You should make proper use of the catalog system.

                Like your iPhone Contact list- why would you enter a new contact to send a message, and then delete the contact from your phone entirely? Makes no sense to do the same in Lightroom.

                Please update your understanding of the Lightroom DAM system.

                At the very least read the free LR Classic Quick Start eBook from- https://www.lightroomqueen.com/blog/

                 

                Sorry, but Your problems are of your own making.

                • 5. Re: All edits missing from Develop Module but show in film strip icon
                  joshbLUMBER Level 1

                  I appreciate your candor, I'll definitely amend my work flow.

                  • 6. Re: All edits missing from Develop Module but show in film strip icon
                    WobertC Adobe Community Professional

                    Thanks josh...

                    I guess it was a little bit of "tough love" in my reply, but I have learnt that with Lightroom it is the "All or Nothing" approach that has to be taken.

                    I have imported every (camera) photo that I have in my system, and I do mean "EVERY PHOTO". The result is that my one catalog contains ALL my photos back to my start with Digital, and ALL my edits done to all photos.

                    Using Keywords, flags and Labels (edit: forgot Collections), is the way to make best use of the Catalog that should be your 'Master' database for all your photo work.

                    Please do not 'remove' photos from the Lightroom Catalog (permanent deletions excepted)- you will be so much happier .

                    • 7. Re: All edits missing from Develop Module but show in film strip icon
                      joshbLUMBER Level 1

                      Got the Scott Kelby Book, now all photos are ready to go and I comprehend the work flow.   Thanks for the assistance.