Mike, you are comparing the camera jpeg (embedded preview) in the Library with the updated camera raw data in Develop. So the Adobe defaults have no doubt been applied. Also does the Basic panel include a profile?
The first preview is the embedded preview, meaning the one that the camera has produced. The develop preview is how Lightroom sees this image. Differences like this can have three causes:
1: You have enabled DRO in the camera. That is an option to protect highlights and the way the camera does this is by underexposing the image, and then cranking up the shadows. Because Lightroom does not automatically corrects the shadows too, it shows you the real underexposed image.
2: You have changed the camera defaults by mistake, so now Lightroom applies some corrections automatically on import. Check the Basic tab in the Develop module. Are all sliders set at zero?
3: You apply a Develop preset on import and included an exposure correction in that preset. This too should be visible in the Basic tab by having sliders not at zero even though you did not do any editing yet.
Thanks for the quick response. You are right, I would expect them to be different but in this case the difference is quite significative.
My main issue is that if I look at the histograms between the camera and what comes out it Lightroom it is much darker in Lightroom. Trying to recover the details in the Develop mode would not get me back to the original preview showed on the camera - over saturation, noise... This makes it quite difficult to predict how each photo is going to turn out in post treatment.
The Profile is Camera neutral. I tried other profiles but again I do not get close to the initial Preview.
HI Johan, thanks for your explanation.
1. DRO was off for this photo
2 & 3. All sliders are at zero
Check what happens when you press the Reset button in the Develop module while holding the shift key. Its name changes ‘Reset (Adobe)’, so you will reset the image to the default camera settings this way. If your image changes when you do this, then you do apply some edits on import, either because the camera defaults are changed, or because you apply a preset.
If nothing changes, then what Lightroom shows you is the correct view. This is what the raw file looks like (with the Adobe raw engine, of course). If your embedded previews are a lot different, then you have to check your camera settings to find out why, because then these previews are not correct. Maybe resetting your camera to factory defaults will solve it.
By the way: when I look at these images I think that the Lightroom representation is much more credible than the Sony one. It looks like Sony applies a lot of contrast reduction in this type of image. A scene like this has a very high contrast, so the Sony preview looks very flat (and colorless) to me.
The Sony rendering looks very very strange. The flames have basically no color and look like ghosts. Undoubtedly some sort of auto contrast and color setting gone wrong indeed. The Lightroom version looks pretty normal for this kind of scene. Undoubtedly just hitting auto will clean it up nicely.
This question has been popping up on the forum a lot recently regarding new Sony A7iii cameras. Here for instance. https://forums.adobe.com/message/10686183?et=watches.email.outcome#10686183 . Maybe the source of the problem is that recent Sony cameras have allowed the user to use Picture Profiles designed for video processing (such as the S_Log2 curve) for stills processing also. This will cause the embedded jpg to use the entire DR of the sensor by virtue of being very flat, almost linear gamma. These profiles are useful for video (video, like jpgs, are RENDERED, i.e. processed images) because the in-camera processing is minimized with the assumption that the video will be color graded in a computer later. In itself, a low contrast embedded jpg should be a good thing because its histogram will more closely resemble a Raw histogram, but even LR's default processing will be much more than what went into the jpg (including, for instance, gamma correction) and could be disconcerting for the new user.
Yes, there is obviously something very off with the Sony rendering. The Lightroom version makes a whole lot more sense.
I use an a7rII (not III) - but going through the menu there is at least one "Picture Profile" that will produce something like this. And then there are "creative styles" and DRO and whatnot. Plenty of ways to ruin a shot...
The very first thing I do when I get my hands on a new camera is to go through the menu, item by item, partly to weed out all these things and make sure everything is off. Not because it will impact the raw file (it won't), but to get a useful preview on the camera LCD.