6 Replies Latest reply on Nov 21, 2018 10:59 AM by TAKI1

    ColorChecker Passport profile vs Camera Raw 9.1.1 / 11.0.0

    TAKI1 Level 1

      Have ColorChecker Passport profile (DCP file) made for my Nikon D7000. I used it with ACR 9.1.1 in Photoshop CS 6. After switching for new Photoshop CC with new ACR 11.0.0 noticed that it doesn't work. DCP file is in the right folder (c:\Users\...\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles\...) but when I'm comparing files opened with old ACR, there is difference.

       

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        • 1. Re: ColorChecker Passport profile vs Camera Raw 9.1.1 / 11.0.0
          gary_sc Adobe Community Professional

          There are newer Process versions* since CS 6.

           

          Go into ACR, select the Calibration tab (3rd from right) and make sure you are comparing apples to apples.

           

          After you've verified that issue please let us know what you find and we can go from there.

           

          *Process versions are the way that demozaicing is done on the raw image, or rather how to interpret the data. This has improved substantially over the years but often there are differences to the user as to how it looks from past observations. You can select previous PVs so that you can re-match older looks in case a client wants a copy of an image made from a previous PV.

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          • 2. Re: ColorChecker Passport profile vs Camera Raw 9.1.1 / 11.0.0
            TAKI1 Level 1

            Yes, I'm aware of that (in old ACR they were called 2003-2012, now they are numbered 1-5). Of course I tried all of them, still it wasn't helpful.

            • 3. Re: ColorChecker Passport profile vs Camera Raw 9.1.1 / 11.0.0
              ssprengel Adobe Community Professional & MVP

              Can we see the what camera profile is selected in ACR 11 for the CR2?

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              • 4. Re: ColorChecker Passport profile vs Camera Raw 9.1.1 / 11.0.0
                TAKI1 Level 1

                First thing, it's NEF (Nikon raw format) not CR2. Second, selected profile is mine, made with Colorchecker...
                What is that question?! Have you read my post at all?!

                 

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                • 5. Re: ColorChecker Passport profile vs Camera Raw 9.1.1 / 11.0.0
                  ssprengel Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                  I mainly wanted to see if you were using a LUT with your custom profile. 

                   

                  Looking at the side-by-side in the original message, I’m suspicious there is something wrong with the display of the JPG, where there might be a mismatched profile when displaying in PS because the colors look so pale compared to the NEF that looks normal.  Do you have profile-mismatch warnings turned on in PS, or could you be viewing a ProPhotoRGB or AdobeRGB JPG with sRGB set as your profile in PS without warnings turned on?

                  • 6. Re: ColorChecker Passport profile vs Camera Raw 9.1.1 / 11.0.0
                    TAKI1 Level 1

                    Things you wrote, your questions caused me to doubt in your professionalism and more, suggestions that I don't know what am I doing really makes me angry...

                     

                    For other people struggling with the same problem:

                     

                    What I found out after research and experiments on ACR/LR is that in my case (Nikon D7000) it's not possible to open NEF with camera embedded profile in actual ACR/LR. By camera embedded profile I mean physical camera profile (for example embedded in preview JPG). Maybe more simple (sorry for my lame english) - there is no way to make ACR/LR convert your RAW/NEF same way camera made it by default to JPG preview file. Actual ACR/LR "camera standard" option doesn't match. You can try some manual modifications of course but there is no default preset/process matching physical, internal camera profile with your ACR/LR output...

                     

                    Now, the ColorChecker thing. Above example (my first post) shows that despite using the ColorChecker DCP profile, new ACR processing way affects the colour and you can do nothing about it... If I want to keep consistency in my workflow/photos I need to roll back to older software due to RAW processing subtlety.

                     

                    Besides my professional workflow I found very unsatisfying and inconvenient that I'm not able to open my RAW files as close as possible to what I have in JPG preview/camera LCD screen (without doing any manual modifications).

                     

                    That's all folks.