10 Replies Latest reply on Jan 11, 2019 8:54 PM by guifreb73253820

    Lumetri Colors Not Exporting

    allisonc7828386

      Hello! So, there have been a couple posts on how Lumetri color effects are not exporting out of Premiere Pro correctly, but none of the answers given have corrected my export quality yet so I'm hoping I can get some new answers now especially with CC 2019. Anyways, my footage is color corrected/graded very simply. I have each clip color graded with the Lumetri effect individually and I also have an adjustment layer with the Lumetri effect on a specific sequence of the footage. It seems as though none of my Lumetri effects are being exported as much footage is dull and looks similar to the raw footage. I was orginally exporting H.264 with Match Source for bit rate but now I've tried a very of settings (I've tried MPEG, etc). My max bit rate is on in sequence settings. I've also copied and pasted my Lumetri folders into Adobe Media Encoder folder but still nothing. First image is what I have in Premiere after color grading and the second photo is what shows up on Quicktime. Please help!! I really like how I graded this footage and I'm trying to avoid re-grading it since this is an issue that I will undoubtably have in the future regardless.

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        • 1. Re: Lumetri Colors Not Exporting
          R Neil Haugen Adobe Community Professional & MVP

          QuickTime player is notoriously color stupid. It pays no attention to color space/profile info in the headers of the media it plays. It is NOT suitable for checking quality of video imagery  ... period.

           

          The browsers Chrome and Safari are nearly as color blind.

           

          For players, VLC and Potplayer attempt to follow proper color tags in video header files, as does Firefox browser.

           

          So the problem isn't with the grading or the export but that player. On a newer Mac with a P3 monitor it's even more complicated.

           

          If you haven't tried the preferences option "enable color display management" and you're on a Mac, try it.

           

          Color is *not* a simple thing. Colorists have monitors that cost several thousand, fed by external boxes using LUTs derived by calibration gear and software that also cost several thousand dollars.

           

          Running a computer monitor, even for web deliveries, you need a monitor that can be set to video sRGB standard according to the Rec 709 pro broadcast standards. Calibrated with a puck and software system. Or an emulation process for that monitor such as the external boxes noted above made by BlackMagic or AJA or Kona.

           

          If the "enable display color management" option works for say producing something that also looks good via VLC/Potplayer  ... that would be the easiest way to try. Not ideal but might get by.

           

           

          Neil

          • 2. Re: Lumetri Colors Not Exporting
            Mo Moolla Adobe Community Professional

            Play it back in VLC and let me know how the color looks.

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            • 3. Re: Lumetri Colors Not Exporting
              Jim_Simon Level 9

              You need to watch the export on a calibrated display from a hardware player as a first step.  That will ensure you're seeing the image as it really is.

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              • 4. Re: Lumetri Colors Not Exporting
                jasonsuresh

                I have exactly the same problem.

                 

                When I play the export in VLC, it is the same as Quick Time. When I upload the video to Vimeo, it is the same. When I open the project and export on a different computer using CC 2019, the problem is the same.

                 

                However, when the exported version is brought back into Premiere, it displays correctly.

                 

                The exported version isn't raw - it has changed the colour from the raw footage, but it hasn't changed it to the same as the Lumetri settings. I have tried with LUTs and manual colour grading - it's the same result either way.

                 

                I have also tried exporting directly from Premiere as well as Media Encoder - both have the same result.

                • 5. Re: Lumetri Colors Not Exporting
                  Jim_Simon Level 9

                  I have exactly the same problem.

                   

                  Then I have the same answer.

                   

                  You need to watch the export on a calibrated display from a hardware player as a first step.  That will ensure you're seeing the image as it really is.

                  • 6. Re: Lumetri Colors Not Exporting
                    jasonsuresh Level 1

                    We have already done this and it hasn't made any difference. What's the second step?

                    • 7. Re: Lumetri Colors Not Exporting
                      chrisw44157881 Level 4

                      displaying correctly is a relative term. if it imports back into premiere and looks the same, then you want 0-255 bt1886 calibration type playback as that is what premiere's program window uses.

                       

                      firefox/web is srgb 2.2 not bt1886. quicktime is 16-235 srgb 2.2. VLC-OpenGL output is srgb 2.2 0-255. So, if you want it to look 'correct' somewhere else, you will need need a transform lut for modified color management.

                      • 8. Re: Lumetri Colors Not Exporting
                        R Neil Haugen Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                        So, you've viewed the exports on a computer with an external LUT box, with calibrated LUTs for a full broadcast monitor like a Flanders, or via a pro-level hardware video player on a broadcast certified/calibrated monitor.

                         

                        That correct?

                         

                        If that's the case I would expect the files to look close to what they do within PrPro.  not exactly the same of course.

                         

                        Your situation with VLC and QuickTime showing the same rather proves your computer monitor is not setup for sRGB/Rec 709 video work. If you're on a Mac, unfortunately,  Apple doesn't give you an easy way to change the settings.

                         

                        On a PC with say an Nvidia GPU, you can rather easily set things closer to correctly.

                         

                         

                        Neil

                        • 9. Re: Lumetri Colors Not Exporting
                          Jim_Simon Level 9

                          We have already done this

                           

                          OK, what was your setup for that?

                          • 10. Re: Lumetri Colors Not Exporting
                            guifreb73253820 Level 1

                            Have you tried exporting with you acceleration off?

                             

                            Eg rendering set to “Mercury Playback Engine - Software Only”

                             

                            I believe I am running into the same issue and as far as I have been able to tell so far it’s the effect of using OpenCL/metal to render you accelerated effects (of which lumetri is one) and perhaps specifically when rendering certain codecs. (It only happened to me in the timeline when I did a GPU accelerated render using protes 422HQ as the preview codec)

                             

                            it may also have to do with not having an AMD gpu in the mac. I have only been able to test on mI ne and my housemates computer so far. Nvidia 750M (mid2014) and intel iris pro 5200 respectively.

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