No, don't uninstall Lightroom because that will do nothing.
You can manage your presets by right-clicking on them. Choose 'Move' from the contextual menu. You can move them to any preset group you want this way. Local folders are irrelevant for how presets are organised. The old presets used to be organised by folders on your hard disk, but the new presets are organised by information stored inside the preset itself. So either simply ignore these local folders, or use this plugin to restore the old behavior.
Thank you for the reply and info. you're right, I guess that I would have to uninstall Camera Raw ( if that's possible)
, or actually just delete all the contents of the 'settings' and 'imported settings' folders. I know how to use the "move" command to put a preset into a folder that I create. THE PROBLEM is that I have to move 200 presets, one at at time, after I figure out which creator or style folder that the preset belongs in. So I have to look at each preset name, then look at all the downloaded presets to see where it came from , then put it into the correct folder. I think that is hours and hours of work.
And there is still an 'Import bug " I have some presets that imported into the 'settings' or 'imported settings' folders BUT they do not appear anywhere in the Camera RAW or Lightroom user interface.... but they are sitting in the folders.
Perhaps it is just easier to delete all the contents of the 'settings' folder and 'imported-settings' folder and start over a few at a time.
BUT that doesnt fix the problem of the presets that don't appear in the user interface. I have imported some presets several times, and they are in the folder, but not in the user interface for either LR or Camera Raw. :-(. that is definitely a bug.
I appreciate any advice that others may have or sharing their experiences. Thank you
If a preset does not appear, it is usually for the following reason: the preset applies a raw profile (among other things) and you have selected a non raw file. Or the preset applies a camera specific profile and you’ve selected a file from a different camera.
thanks, but I have all raw picture files. and no camera specific files. for example, I have presets that I purchased from Nicolsey. for example, there is:
Contempo 01 Contrast.xmp
Contempo 01 Matte.xmp
. . .
Contempo 05 Contrast.xmp
Contempo 05 Matte.xmp
all are in the settings or importsettings folders inside Camera Raw. BUT the Contempo 01.xmp, Contempo 02.xmp thru Contempo 05.xmp do not show up in the user lists in Camera Raw or LR. All the "matte" and "contrast" presets show up in the preset listings. These are all part of the same preset package. All work on Raw files and jpeg files. it doesn't matter whether I have select a raw file or a jpg file. The missing presets are still missing, and all the 'contrast' and 'matte' presets are available.
Separately, in the Camera Raw - importedsettings there is a sub folder called 'All-Profiles' .
All the Contempo *** .xmp files are in 'settings' in a subfolder 'Nicolesy Contempo', which I did not create, but it's there. I have just discovered that the 'Contempo 01. xmp. thru 'Contempo 05.xmp' files , which are also in this same folder and not showing up in the Develop Presets, is in the Develop Profile Browser area !!
I know profiles and presets are different, and presets can call profiles. But this is all messed up.
I guess that Adobe looks at some specific attributes of an 'adjustment'. and determines if it is a preset or a profile, as all the 'Contempo' set were all sold and identified as presets, but Adobe now seem to think differently. IF there are rules about this, maybe Adobe could share.
it's just a random mess that Adobe has made. I have no idea how to clean it up. One at a time, to move all the presets where they need to be. But the future looks bleak.
I have purchased professional LUT ( look up table ) profiles and others from photographers and they seem to be nicely organized in the profile browser in the tool area on the right side of LR develop module. The profiles are automatially and nicely organized by name / or type / or creator in separate folders, yet I have probably 200 presets in the User-preset area. BUT I did not create any of them, so they are not My user Presets.
I would like to be spending this time editing my photos that I recently took. BUT i'm spending days trying to cleanup this preset mess. I've used LR since the very very versions, and am quite disappointed about this.
Again, thank you JohanEL54, don't mean to complain, but this isn't what I wanted to be doing. I'm reinstalling many of the presets I used to us, as I installed a new SSD drive in my macbook a few months ago, and started from scratch. so it's dishearting to find files all over the place. if I had know everything ends up in one large bucket, I would only install a few at a time, and clean them up. Adobe should as least modify the import tool, to allow the creation of a folder to put the files in , instead of forcing everything into User-Presets.
If I do create a dummy preset, and put it into a new folder, it appears inside the 'Settings' folder in the new subfolder I just created. If I then 'move' presets from the 'user-preset' folder, they are in the 'settings ' folder or the 'importedsettings' folder, and remain there and not in the newly created folder in 'settings'. obviously this is just a pointer that is changing, but this isn't really a database. There is absolutely no understanding of what is happening when new presets are installed.. sometimes it creates a subfolder in the 'settings ' area, and other times it puts files in 'user presets' ( but rarely). and most of the files go into 'importedsettings'
i'm tired of writing. :-(. Merry Christmas to all.
I just downloaded the preset bundle below from the Nicolesy site called:
Nicolesy Contempo Creative Profile presets
Following the install from the zip file, I have 10 new presets listed in the Develop Presets panel listed under the title 'Nicolesy Contempo'
(01-05 Contrast and Matte)
Then in the 'Profile browser' in the Basic Panel there are 5 new 'profiles' listed under 'Nicolesy Contempo' named Contempo 01-05
When I check the ..../Adobe/Camera Raw/Imported Settings directory all 15 .xmp files are in the same location.
Does this help explain what is going on for you?
Edit: missed typed the folder path: they are in ..../Adobe/Camera Raw/Imported Settings/ Nicosely Comtempo Presets/
I also see re-reading your message again that this looks to be the same for you.
It all follows to be a correct location for me. There is a new folder containing the complete preset pak nice & tidy together.
As JohanEl54 indicated the profiles now have folder/location info embedded in the .xmp file to let LR know where to use them.
While previous use of folders to sort presets before may have been simpler for organizing large collections of presets.
It looks like this new method will make install/uninstall simpler as everything is kept together instead of scattered across multiple folders.
wow. i would like to thank you for all the effort you went to with the Nicolesy presets . Yes, I discovered that some of the NIcolsey are located in the Develop Preset section on the left, and I guess the 'main' ones are found in the 'profile browser' on the right panel.
i also find all 15 files are in one folder in camera raw - settings - Nicolsey Contempo. very neat and tidy. slightly different than you said, but I installed them a while back, prior to version 8 of LR.
It still seems to me that Adobe and everyone else is using the term 'preset' very loosely. I understand the basic difference, but not how to exactly create profiles. I do have some profiles from Matt K, that I think are created around 'Look Up Tables'.
Even the Nicolsey tools, that are sold and discussed at 'presets' , are in my simple understanding, ten, 10, presets, and five,5, profiles.
so how do I know if a preset is just a preset, or it is really adjusting a 'profile'. Yes, I know that a preset can 'call' a profile.
I have to do some more research to understand what a 'Look Up Table' is , and how to make a profile.
Also, I have to discover if I need a new workflow, to look at the 'profiles' First, before applying 'presets'
I believe that I have also discovered the source of the 100 + presets in my LR Develop panel that are installed as 'User Presets'.
They are not my user presets, but in fact third party presets ( in my case , all from On1, who also writes presets into Camera Raw' )
Adobe must somehow detect that they don't have a 'lightroom tag', and assumes they are user presets, and discards all the creator and folder info,
and just puts all of them in the giant basket , they call 'User Presets', and are only sorted by alphabetical order, and not how they affect the photo, or there intent.
So now I have a better chance of finding their original source, and making some subfolders to organize them.
Maybe Adobe will make some changes to help capture the information from third party 'presets' in Camera RAW that also show up in LR as User-Presets, but they are not. Or create another sub area, and keep the creator and folder name info. They are already xmp files, so the info must be there, as they are organized nicey in on1.
Thank you again, for you kind effort to help me.
This link provides (a download) tutorial instructions for making your own profiles.
I found it to be easy once the steps in the method were (mostly!) understood.
And Matt Koslowski has a video here-
thank you very much for the profile links. I'll definitely study them.
and Thankyou to everyone who has taken time to try and make me a better LR user.
Another member found this excellent article:
Note that it starts talking about profiles, but it then gets into presets.