8 Replies Latest reply on Dec 30, 2018 8:23 AM by Kat Gilbert

    ATTN: Wacom 22HD Users

    Gutterfish Adobe Community Professional

      Hey,

       

      I currently use XP-Pen 22.  My only issue with it is that when I get the stylus tip very close to the display surface the cursor jitters around alot.  It stops once I put the tip to the surface.  This is not a big deal for organic drawing but it is problem for precision selection in Illustrator.   So I am considering buying a Wacom 22HD but I've read that some units also have problems with jitter.  This is important  I don't mind using a stroke stabilizer to correct a little jitter while drawing, what I am concerned about is if there is jitter while hovering just over the surface to make selections.   Can anybody tell me if they've experienced this problem with their 22HD (non touch).  i want to know if I spend the $1,600 that i won't have this issue.

       

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        • 1. Re: ATTN: Wacom 22HD Users
          D Fosse Adobe Community Professional & MVP

          Gutterfish  wrote

           

          This is not a big deal for organic drawing but it is problem for precision selection in Illustrator.

           

          Personally I've found tablets unusable for precision UI work. The reason is simple geometry. Because of the rotation in the wrist, the cursor moves, and you miss the mark:

          geometry.png

           

          A mouse doesn't do that. I got a Wacom and wrestled with it for weeks, until I concluded it would never work, and ditched it.

           

          I'm sure tablets are wonderful for drawing and painting freehand (which I don't do), you certainly can't do that with a mouse. So I suppose it's just a question of picking the right tool for the job.

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          • 2. Re: ATTN: Wacom 22HD Users
            Gutterfish Adobe Community Professional

            https://forums.adobe.com/people/D+Fosse  wrote

             

            I suppose it's just a question of picking the right tool for the job.

            Hey,

             

            Yes you're probably right.  I've started fooling around with illustration composed of basic geometric shapes (as is the current trend) and after struggling with the pen I realized I don't really need it for that type of work and went back to the mouse.  However I'm still considering the Wacom.  Have you used one and if so did you experience the problem I described?

             

            Thanks,

            Paul

            • 3. Re: ATTN: Wacom 22HD Users
              D Fosse Adobe Community Professional & MVP

              Actually the illustration was a bit misleading and much too complicated. It doesn't matter where you look, the point is only that the cursor moves as the pen tip moves down:

               

              geometry_3.png

               

              I've never used a Cintiq, this was a plain Intuos Pen and Touch (as it was called). But there was never any issue with the device precision in itself, it was dead on and worked very well as such.

               

              A possible workaround for the above "geometry shift" is to rest the pen on the surface and then apply additional pressure to click. That wasn't possible on the one I had, but I understand it's possible with the Intuos Pro, and probably the Cintiqs.

               

              The "hype" in many circles is that you must use a tablet for everything if you want to be taken seriously, and that notion I do have problems with. For most normal work a good mouse is still more precise. The tablet is for drawing and painting.

               

              All of this, naturally, is just my personal opinion and preference.

              • 4. Re: ATTN: Wacom 22HD Users
                Michael J. Hoffman Adobe Community Professional

                I fully agree, having used a Cintiq for write a few years, and now using an Intuos tablet. Just because I have the tablet, I don’t use it for everything, and the same was true with the Cintiq. I always use the mouse in Illustrator, and I always use the mouse in office apps like Excel and PowerPoint. I keep the pen in its stand and grab it most often in Photoshop or Lightroom, when I’m painting, masking, or drawing.

                 

                Mike

                • 5. Re: ATTN: Wacom 22HD Users
                  Kat Gilbert Adobe Community Professional

                  I have the 22HD non-touch and do not any of the issues. It is a fluid pen to screen reaction. I also have a much older 24HD and while it is also fluid the sensitivity levels on the 22 are a game changer. Precision is spot on for me- I see where the pen point is and whether I hold the pen on or off the screen there is no jitter. Drawing is easy and if you are a sketch or precision artist I think you will find that it is great addition to your workflow.

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                  • 6. Re: ATTN: Wacom 22HD Users
                    Gutterfish Adobe Community Professional

                    Thank you both for your responses.  Now I know that I don't have to use my tablet for everything

                    • 7. Re: ATTN: Wacom 22HD Users
                      Gutterfish Adobe Community Professional

                      Thank you Kat for answering my question.

                      • 8. Re: ATTN: Wacom 22HD Users
                        Kat Gilbert Adobe Community Professional

                        You are welcome. If you decide to purchase I do not think you will be disappointed.