9 Replies Latest reply on Jul 31, 2006 5:35 AM by Newsgroup_User

    FW  and ico-files

    Level 7
      I used one of these online services to make a favicon out of an image I made
      with FW 8. The result seems better than I can get it in FW itself.

      I would like to use the ico-image elsewhere on my page as well, so I inserted.
      Dreamweaver showed the broken image symbol, although in preview things seem
      fine in IE and Firefox.

      To be on the safe side I tried opening the .ico image in FW, but FW protests
      'unknown file type' .

      Can I just not open it? Is there a way to produce such a neatly compressed
      image as the ico-maker does? (I dimished my original file using 'transform,
      resize' but the resulting image is not very good quality.

      --
      Regards,
      Adriana.
      [ put out the rubbish if you need to reach me by e-mail ]
      www.spinsister.nl


        • 1. Re: FW  and ico-files
          Level 7
          A.Translator wrote:
          > I used one of these online services to make a favicon out of an image I
          > made with FW 8. The result seems better than I can get it in FW itself.
          >
          > I would like to use the ico-image elsewhere on my page as well, so I
          > inserted. Dreamweaver showed the broken image symbol, although in
          > preview things seem fine in IE and Firefox.
          >
          > To be on the safe side I tried opening the .ico image in FW, but FW
          > protests 'unknown file type' .
          >
          > Can I just not open it?

          Fireworks does not support the ICO format. You could make a screen shot
          of it and open that in Fireworks.

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          • 2. Re: FW  and ico-files
            Level 7
            > You could make a screen shot of it and open that in Fireworks.

            But that would mean loss of quality?

            --
            Regards,
            Adriana.
            [ put out the rubbish if you need to reach me by e-mail ]
            www.spinsister.nl


            • 3. Re: FW  and ico-files
              Level 7
              A.Translator wrote:
              >> You could make a screen shot of it and open that in Fireworks.
              >
              > But that would mean loss of quality?

              Not at all. You would get exactly what you see on the screen.

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              • 4. Re: FW  and ico-files
                Level 7
                Or you could open it with IrfanView (free), Adriana! ;-)

                http://www.irfanview.com/

                ~ Bruce

                "A.Translator" <transRUBlatoria@yaBISHhoo.com> wrote in message
                news:mn.e46c7d67f8c503f7.33167@yaBISHhoo.com...
                >> You could make a screen shot of it and open that in Fireworks.
                >
                > But that would mean loss of quality?
                >
                > --
                > Regards,
                > Adriana.
                > [ put out the rubbish if you need to reach me by e-mail ]
                > www.spinsister.nl
                >
                >


                • 5. Re: FW  and ico-files
                  Level 7
                  > Or you could open it with IrfanView (free), Adriana!

                  Thanks, you are so right! I got Irfanview ages ago and just love it, but
                  completeley forgot about it and .ico files.

                  --
                  Regards,
                  Adriana.
                  [ put out the rubbish if you need to reach me by e-mail ]
                  www.spinsister.nl


                  • 6. Re: FW  and ico-files
                    Level 7
                    > A.Translator wrote:
                    >>> You could make a screen shot of it and open that in Fireworks.
                    >>
                    >> But that would mean loss of quality?

                    > Not at all. You would get exactly what you see on the screen.

                    I did not realize that. Thanks for telling me.

                    --
                    Regards,
                    Adriana.
                    [ put out the rubbish if you need to reach me by e-mail ]
                    www.spinsister.nl


                    • 7. Re: FW  and ico-files
                      HoboSledge
                      What I want to know is why the big image programs eg Fireworks, Photoshop do not make icons.

                      Which well known programs do???

                      Or is it exclusive to just the small time freeware/shareware trials on the web???
                      • 8. Re: FW  and ico-files
                        Level 7
                        On Sun, 30 Jul 2006, HoboSledge wrote

                        >What I want to know is why the big image programs eg Fireworks,
                        >Photoshop do not make icons.
                        >
                        There are Win98 icons and XP icons. Given the small size of a favicon an
                        XP icon is pointless. A single Win98 icon is derived from two bitmaps.
                        An XP icon from three bitmaps. The ico format file can contain any
                        number of individual icons at any size you care to create. Programs that
                        do a proper job of creating and displaying icons, and managing icon
                        libraries, are big programs in their own right.

                        > Which well known programs do???
                        >
                        Use Google

                        > Or is it exclusive to just the small time freeware/shareware trials on
                        >the web???

                        the free Irfanview is not a "small time" program. It can convert other
                        file formats to Win98 icons.

                        You don't actually need a "real" icon for a favicon. You can use a Gif.
                        I see that A. Translator has done just that.

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                        http://www.emdpi.com
                        • 9. Re: FW  and ico-files
                          Level 7
                          On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 06:48:29 +0400, HoboSledge
                          <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote:

                          > What I want to know is why the big image programs eg Fireworks,
                          > Photoshop do
                          > not make icons.

                          Actually, there are ICO and CUR export\import plugins for Photoshop (I
                          remember at least two freeware ones, may try to refresh my memory and find
                          the links if you really need them). However, using them is not the best
                          idea. ICO file may contain several images of different sizes and
                          bitdepths. Neither Photoshop nor Fireworks can fully handle such a data
                          structure internally for one simple reason: both programs are ment to do
                          absolutely different jobs. Doing ICO files in PS doesn't make much more
                          sence than fixing a photo in icon editor. So you'd better use the software
                          appropriately - Photoshop for photos and professional press, Fireworks for
                          Web graphics, and dedicated icon editors for icon creation.

                          However, the original question seem to be about so called "favicons", not
                          "ICO files per se". They are not quite the same. Yes, ICO file may be used
                          as favicon, but other image formats may be used as well. Main idea is, one
                          should use the format that browser is supposed to understand. GIF, for
                          example, is one of such a formats.

                          --
                          Ilya Razmanov
                          http://photoshop.msk.ru - Photoshop plug-in filters