7 Replies Latest reply on Sep 25, 2006 6:58 PM by Newsgroup_User

    Question about frames in Fireworks

    Level 7
      I have about 50 frames making a very small animated gif in fireworks.
      Everytime you play it it plays 1-50 and then starts right over at 1. I want
      it to play 1-50 and then go backwards from 50-1 and then loop this forever.
      How do I do this?


        • 1. Re: Question about frames in Fireworks
          Level 7
          Chris Jumonville wrote:
          > I have about 50 frames making a very small animated gif in fireworks.
          > Everytime you play it it plays 1-50 and then starts right over at 1. I want
          > it to play 1-50 and then go backwards from 50-1 and then loop this forever.
          > How do I do this?
          >
          >

          You need to add those 50 frames in reverse order. Well, techincally 48
          frames, as you probably do not need to have frames 1 and 50 repeated.

          Here's how:

          Select frames 2 - 49 in the frames panel.
          Go to the Frame Options icon and choose Duplicate
          Go to Commands > Document > Reverse Frames
          Set the start frame at 51 and the end frame at 98
          click ok.

          HTH
          • 2. Re: Question about frames in Fireworks
            Level 7
            Thanks a million Jim, that's exactly the answer I was looking for!

            "Jim Babbage" <jim@communitymx.com> wrote in message
            news:ef8sms$7k5$1@forums.macromedia.com...
            > Chris Jumonville wrote:
            >> I have about 50 frames making a very small animated gif in fireworks.
            >> Everytime you play it it plays 1-50 and then starts right over at 1. I
            >> want it to play 1-50 and then go backwards from 50-1 and then loop this
            >> forever. How do I do this?
            >
            > You need to add those 50 frames in reverse order. Well, techincally 48
            > frames, as you probably do not need to have frames 1 and 50 repeated.
            >
            > Here's how:
            >
            > Select frames 2 - 49 in the frames panel.
            > Go to the Frame Options icon and choose Duplicate
            > Go to Commands > Document > Reverse Frames
            > Set the start frame at 51 and the end frame at 98
            > click ok.
            >
            > HTH


            • 3. Re: Question about frames in Fireworks
              Level 7
              :-) You're very welcome.

              --
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              Extending Knowledge, Daily
              http://www.communityMX.com/
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              ---
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              Chris Jumonville wrote:
              > Thanks a million Jim, that's exactly the answer I was looking for!
              >
              > "Jim Babbage" <jim@communitymx.com> wrote in message
              > news:ef8sms$7k5$1@forums.macromedia.com...
              >> Chris Jumonville wrote:
              >>> I have about 50 frames making a very small animated gif in fireworks.
              >>> Everytime you play it it plays 1-50 and then starts right over at 1. I
              >>> want it to play 1-50 and then go backwards from 50-1 and then loop this
              >>> forever. How do I do this?
              >> You need to add those 50 frames in reverse order. Well, techincally 48
              >> frames, as you probably do not need to have frames 1 and 50 repeated.
              >>
              >> Here's how:
              >>
              >> Select frames 2 - 49 in the frames panel.
              >> Go to the Frame Options icon and choose Duplicate
              >> Go to Commands > Document > Reverse Frames
              >> Set the start frame at 51 and the end frame at 98
              >> click ok.
              >>
              >> HTH
              >
              >
              • 4. Re: Question about frames in Fireworks
                Level 7
                One more question maybe you could answer for me Jim since I'm sort of new to
                animations... Is it possible for me to select a different start point in my
                frames? I have about 100 frames now and when I export them I want some of
                them to start at frame 1 and others to start at say frame 40 and loop
                forever. That way all the animations are esentially the same but don't look
                the same because they start at different frames... How do I do this?

                Thanks again!
                -Chris
                "Jim Babbage" <jbabbage@newmediaservices.ca> wrote in message
                news:ef9gea$3n3$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                > :-) You're very welcome.
                >
                > --
                > Jim Babbage - .:Community MX:. & .:Adobe Community Expert:.
                > Extending Knowledge, Daily
                > http://www.communityMX.com/
                > CommunityMX - Free Resources:
                > http://www.communitymx.com/free.cfm
                > ---
                > .:Adobe Community Expert for Fireworks:.
                > news://forums.macromedia.com/macromedia.fireworks
                > news://forums.macromedia.com/macromedia.dreamweaver
                >
                > Chris Jumonville wrote:
                >> Thanks a million Jim, that's exactly the answer I was looking for!
                >>
                >> "Jim Babbage" <jim@communitymx.com> wrote in message
                >> news:ef8sms$7k5$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                >>> Chris Jumonville wrote:
                >>>> I have about 50 frames making a very small animated gif in fireworks.
                >>>> Everytime you play it it plays 1-50 and then starts right over at 1. I
                >>>> want it to play 1-50 and then go backwards from 50-1 and then loop this
                >>>> forever. How do I do this?
                >>> You need to add those 50 frames in reverse order. Well, techincally 48
                >>> frames, as you probably do not need to have frames 1 and 50 repeated.
                >>>
                >>> Here's how:
                >>>
                >>> Select frames 2 - 49 in the frames panel.
                >>> Go to the Frame Options icon and choose Duplicate
                >>> Go to Commands > Document > Reverse Frames
                >>> Set the start frame at 51 and the end frame at 98
                >>> click ok.
                >>>
                >>> HTH
                >>

                • 5. Re: Question about frames in Fireworks
                  Level 7
                  GIF animations are pretty simplistic. They go from frame 1 - to the last
                  frame of the animation. There is no way (as far as I know) they can be
                  started midway through the frames. If this is what you want to do, you'd
                  need to create several animation files, each one starting and ending
                  where you want THAT particular file to start an end.

                  I never asked before, but what are the pixel dimensions of your
                  animations? GIF animation file size is determined by three main things:

                  number of colors
                  pixel dimensions
                  number of frames

                  Generally, you want GIF animations to be either small in dimensions, or
                  frame count (or both) to keep file sizes low.

                  Can you give us a better idea of what you are trying to achieve and why?

                  You may be better off building these animations within Flash. You'll get
                  more flexibility and interactivity.

                  --
                  Jim Babbage - .:Community MX:. & .:Adobe Community Expert:.
                  Extending Knowledge, Daily
                  http://www.communityMX.com/
                  CommunityMX - Free Resources:
                  http://www.communitymx.com/free.cfm
                  ---
                  .:Adobe Community Expert for Fireworks:.
                  news://forums.macromedia.com/macromedia.fireworks
                  news://forums.macromedia.com/macromedia.dreamweaver

                  Chris Jumonville wrote:
                  > One more question maybe you could answer for me Jim since I'm sort of new to
                  > animations... Is it possible for me to select a different start point in my
                  > frames? I have about 100 frames now and when I export them I want some of
                  > them to start at frame 1 and others to start at say frame 40 and loop
                  > forever. That way all the animations are esentially the same but don't look
                  > the same because they start at different frames... How do I do this?
                  >
                  > Thanks again!
                  > -Chris
                  > "Jim Babbage" <jbabbage@newmediaservices.ca> wrote in message
                  > news:ef9gea$3n3$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                  >> :-) You're very welcome.
                  >>
                  >> --
                  >> Jim Babbage - .:Community MX:. & .:Adobe Community Expert:.
                  >> Extending Knowledge, Daily
                  >> http://www.communityMX.com/
                  >> CommunityMX - Free Resources:
                  >> http://www.communitymx.com/free.cfm
                  >> ---
                  >> .:Adobe Community Expert for Fireworks:.
                  >> news://forums.macromedia.com/macromedia.fireworks
                  >> news://forums.macromedia.com/macromedia.dreamweaver
                  >>
                  >> Chris Jumonville wrote:
                  >>> Thanks a million Jim, that's exactly the answer I was looking for!
                  >>>
                  >>> "Jim Babbage" <jim@communitymx.com> wrote in message
                  >>> news:ef8sms$7k5$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                  >>>> Chris Jumonville wrote:
                  >>>>> I have about 50 frames making a very small animated gif in fireworks.
                  >>>>> Everytime you play it it plays 1-50 and then starts right over at 1. I
                  >>>>> want it to play 1-50 and then go backwards from 50-1 and then loop this
                  >>>>> forever. How do I do this?
                  >>>> You need to add those 50 frames in reverse order. Well, techincally 48
                  >>>> frames, as you probably do not need to have frames 1 and 50 repeated.
                  >>>>
                  >>>> Here's how:
                  >>>>
                  >>>> Select frames 2 - 49 in the frames panel.
                  >>>> Go to the Frame Options icon and choose Duplicate
                  >>>> Go to Commands > Document > Reverse Frames
                  >>>> Set the start frame at 51 and the end frame at 98
                  >>>> click ok.
                  >>>>
                  >>>> HTH
                  >
                  • 6. Re: Question about frames in Fireworks
                    Level 7
                    Jim,

                    I need to teach myself Flash, it's one thing I haven't learned yet that I
                    really should. I need to find a good book or something on Flash. Anyways
                    my gif animations are about 20x20 pixels at the very most. Basically they
                    are little square buttons that turn from white to red over the period of
                    about 50 frames. Each frame is just a different shade of red until it gets
                    all the way to bright red. Then it just loops again. Understand what I
                    mean?

                    Thanks!
                    -Chris
                    "Jim Babbage" <jbabbage@newmediaservices.ca> wrote in message
                    news:ef9r7t$got$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                    > GIF animations are pretty simplistic. They go from frame 1 - to the last
                    > frame of the animation. There is no way (as far as I know) they can be
                    > started midway through the frames. If this is what you want to do, you'd
                    > need to create several animation files, each one starting and ending where
                    > you want THAT particular file to start an end.
                    >
                    > I never asked before, but what are the pixel dimensions of your
                    > animations? GIF animation file size is determined by three main things:
                    >
                    > number of colors
                    > pixel dimensions
                    > number of frames
                    >
                    > Generally, you want GIF animations to be either small in dimensions, or
                    > frame count (or both) to keep file sizes low.
                    >
                    > Can you give us a better idea of what you are trying to achieve and why?
                    >
                    > You may be better off building these animations within Flash. You'll get
                    > more flexibility and interactivity.
                    >
                    > --
                    > Jim Babbage - .:Community MX:. & .:Adobe Community Expert:.
                    > Extending Knowledge, Daily
                    > http://www.communityMX.com/
                    > CommunityMX - Free Resources:
                    > http://www.communitymx.com/free.cfm
                    > ---
                    > .:Adobe Community Expert for Fireworks:.
                    > news://forums.macromedia.com/macromedia.fireworks
                    > news://forums.macromedia.com/macromedia.dreamweaver
                    >
                    > Chris Jumonville wrote:
                    >> One more question maybe you could answer for me Jim since I'm sort of new
                    >> to animations... Is it possible for me to select a different start point
                    >> in my frames? I have about 100 frames now and when I export them I want
                    >> some of them to start at frame 1 and others to start at say frame 40 and
                    >> loop forever. That way all the animations are esentially the same but
                    >> don't look the same because they start at different frames... How do I do
                    >> this?
                    >>
                    >> Thanks again!
                    >> -Chris
                    >> "Jim Babbage" <jbabbage@newmediaservices.ca> wrote in message
                    >> news:ef9gea$3n3$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                    >>> :-) You're very welcome.
                    >>>
                    >>> --
                    >>> Jim Babbage - .:Community MX:. & .:Adobe Community Expert:.
                    >>> Extending Knowledge, Daily
                    >>> http://www.communityMX.com/
                    >>> CommunityMX - Free Resources:
                    >>> http://www.communitymx.com/free.cfm
                    >>> ---
                    >>> .:Adobe Community Expert for Fireworks:.
                    >>> news://forums.macromedia.com/macromedia.fireworks
                    >>> news://forums.macromedia.com/macromedia.dreamweaver
                    >>>
                    >>> Chris Jumonville wrote:
                    >>>> Thanks a million Jim, that's exactly the answer I was looking for!
                    >>>>
                    >>>> "Jim Babbage" <jim@communitymx.com> wrote in message
                    >>>> news:ef8sms$7k5$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                    >>>>> Chris Jumonville wrote:
                    >>>>>> I have about 50 frames making a very small animated gif in fireworks.
                    >>>>>> Everytime you play it it plays 1-50 and then starts right over at 1.
                    >>>>>> I want it to play 1-50 and then go backwards from 50-1 and then loop
                    >>>>>> this forever. How do I do this?
                    >>>>> You need to add those 50 frames in reverse order. Well, techincally 48
                    >>>>> frames, as you probably do not need to have frames 1 and 50 repeated.
                    >>>>>
                    >>>>> Here's how:
                    >>>>>
                    >>>>> Select frames 2 - 49 in the frames panel.
                    >>>>> Go to the Frame Options icon and choose Duplicate
                    >>>>> Go to Commands > Document > Reverse Frames
                    >>>>> Set the start frame at 51 and the end frame at 98
                    >>>>> click ok.
                    >>>>>
                    >>>>> HTH
                    >>


                    • 7. Re: Question about frames in Fireworks
                      Level 7
                      Yup understood. I doubt they're very big files then. What is reason
                      for starting the animation at different frames?

                      --
                      Jim Babbage - .:Community MX:. & .:Adobe Community Expert:.
                      Extending Knowledge, Daily
                      http://www.communityMX.com/
                      CommunityMX - Free Resources:
                      http://www.communitymx.com/free.cfm
                      ---
                      .:Adobe Community Expert for Fireworks:.
                      news://forums.macromedia.com/macromedia.fireworks
                      news://forums.macromedia.com/macromedia.dreamweaver

                      Chris Jumonville wrote:
                      > Jim,
                      >
                      > I need to teach myself Flash, it's one thing I haven't learned yet that I
                      > really should. I need to find a good book or something on Flash. Anyways
                      > my gif animations are about 20x20 pixels at the very most. Basically they
                      > are little square buttons that turn from white to red over the period of
                      > about 50 frames. Each frame is just a different shade of red until it gets
                      > all the way to bright red. Then it just loops again. Understand what I
                      > mean?
                      >
                      > Thanks!
                      > -Chris
                      > "Jim Babbage" <jbabbage@newmediaservices.ca> wrote in message
                      > news:ef9r7t$got$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                      >> GIF animations are pretty simplistic. They go from frame 1 - to the last
                      >> frame of the animation. There is no way (as far as I know) they can be
                      >> started midway through the frames. If this is what you want to do, you'd
                      >> need to create several animation files, each one starting and ending where
                      >> you want THAT particular file to start an end.
                      >>
                      >> I never asked before, but what are the pixel dimensions of your
                      >> animations? GIF animation file size is determined by three main things:
                      >>
                      >> number of colors
                      >> pixel dimensions
                      >> number of frames
                      >>
                      >> Generally, you want GIF animations to be either small in dimensions, or
                      >> frame count (or both) to keep file sizes low.
                      >>
                      >> Can you give us a better idea of what you are trying to achieve and why?
                      >>
                      >> You may be better off building these animations within Flash. You'll get
                      >> more flexibility and interactivity.
                      >>
                      >> --
                      >> Jim Babbage - .:Community MX:. & .:Adobe Community Expert:.
                      >> Extending Knowledge, Daily
                      >> http://www.communityMX.com/
                      >> CommunityMX - Free Resources:
                      >> http://www.communitymx.com/free.cfm
                      >> ---
                      >> .:Adobe Community Expert for Fireworks:.
                      >> news://forums.macromedia.com/macromedia.fireworks
                      >> news://forums.macromedia.com/macromedia.dreamweaver
                      >>
                      >> Chris Jumonville wrote:
                      >>> One more question maybe you could answer for me Jim since I'm sort of new
                      >>> to animations... Is it possible for me to select a different start point
                      >>> in my frames? I have about 100 frames now and when I export them I want
                      >>> some of them to start at frame 1 and others to start at say frame 40 and
                      >>> loop forever. That way all the animations are esentially the same but
                      >>> don't look the same because they start at different frames... How do I do
                      >>> this?
                      >>>
                      >>> Thanks again!
                      >>> -Chris
                      >>> "Jim Babbage" <jbabbage@newmediaservices.ca> wrote in message
                      >>> news:ef9gea$3n3$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                      >>>> :-) You're very welcome.
                      >>>>
                      >>>> --
                      >>>> Jim Babbage - .:Community MX:. & .:Adobe Community Expert:.
                      >>>> Extending Knowledge, Daily
                      >>>> http://www.communityMX.com/
                      >>>> CommunityMX - Free Resources:
                      >>>> http://www.communitymx.com/free.cfm
                      >>>> ---
                      >>>> .:Adobe Community Expert for Fireworks:.
                      >>>> news://forums.macromedia.com/macromedia.fireworks
                      >>>> news://forums.macromedia.com/macromedia.dreamweaver
                      >>>>
                      >>>> Chris Jumonville wrote:
                      >>>>> Thanks a million Jim, that's exactly the answer I was looking for!
                      >>>>>
                      >>>>> "Jim Babbage" <jim@communitymx.com> wrote in message
                      >>>>> news:ef8sms$7k5$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                      >>>>>> Chris Jumonville wrote:
                      >>>>>>> I have about 50 frames making a very small animated gif in fireworks.
                      >>>>>>> Everytime you play it it plays 1-50 and then starts right over at 1.
                      >>>>>>> I want it to play 1-50 and then go backwards from 50-1 and then loop
                      >>>>>>> this forever. How do I do this?
                      >>>>>> You need to add those 50 frames in reverse order. Well, techincally 48
                      >>>>>> frames, as you probably do not need to have frames 1 and 50 repeated.
                      >>>>>>
                      >>>>>> Here's how:
                      >>>>>>
                      >>>>>> Select frames 2 - 49 in the frames panel.
                      >>>>>> Go to the Frame Options icon and choose Duplicate
                      >>>>>> Go to Commands > Document > Reverse Frames
                      >>>>>> Set the start frame at 51 and the end frame at 98
                      >>>>>> click ok.
                      >>>>>>
                      >>>>>> HTH
                      >
                      >