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The first thing is to forget about the CD burning process. Well, not
forget about it, because it's important, but it has nothing to do with
embedding profiles. It doesn't matter a bit what you use to burn the
CD, and I wouldn't imagine that you'd do this with Photoshop. Rather,
you get everything ready that you want to send to the printer, prepare
all your files in a new folder on your hard disk, then burn a copy of
that folder to the CD. Think of burning the CD as no more than making
a photocopy and sticking it in an envelope: what matters is getting it
Embedding profiles is something that happens (or doesn't happen) when
you save a file from Photoshop (or another program). Depending on the
program and the file format it might
* always be embedded
* never be embedded
* an option
Embedded means that there is a copy of the ICC profile inside the file
that you save. The reason for this is that it means the file can give
accurate colour even for someone without a copy of the profile.
So, moving to the next question - what file formats does the photo lab
accept? This is very important, because for some formats embedding
profiles is impossible.
Thanks Aandi for your response
The Supported file Formats by the Lab are RGB TFF - uncompressed, without channels or paths or
RGB JPEG - Recommended compression: Standard Baseline 12 (Quality = 100%) without channels or paths.
What is the reason why channels or paths are not accepted? Channels and paths seems to be an optimum method to gain a good outcome in many aspects Photoshop editing?
In relation to CD burning. Mac Computers have as part of there hardware a CD burner. There can I just save it in a folder on my desktop for the CD process burning?
Just confirming that choosing a file format as above will lead to the profile to be embedded in the photo I am burning onto the CD?
>What is the reason why channels or paths are not accepted?
We can't really speak for your lab, but it is probably to avoid
surprises. If something is useful in editing, you may be able to
flatten in Photoshop before saving it. Probably a question for the
>There can I just save it in a folder on my desktop for the CD process burning?
I would expect so. If in doubt check the Mac help - I've never used
the built in software for CD burning on Mac.
>Just confirming that choosing a file format as above will lead to the profile to be embedded in the photo I am burning onto the CD?
Both formats should offer it as a choice in your save options. Read
the options carefully, as other ones affect the lab's rules.
thanks for your time
I print my images at home from my iMac and R2400 but if I was to send them to the lab you have contacted, I would use embedded Adobe1998 or ProPhoto . sRGB is suitable for web viewing and printing out on low-end printers but the colour gamut is not as wide as the other two.
The lab aren't alluding to monitor calibration; they are talking about your images. If your camera has an Adobe1998 facility on it , then I would suggest that you use that if you are always going to have your pictures printed, as embedding the image file at source will save any confusion at a later stage of your workflow.
As a rule of thumb, Adobe1998 for printing and sRGB for web viewing, as 1998 can look washed out on the web ( just remember to change things in-camera, depending on your intentions).
The camera will then embed all your future images in the 1998 colour space, unless you change it. If your camera doesn't have that choice, then open your image in Photoshop, click on Image->Convert Colour Profile and you will see a facility for choosing Adobe1998 as the colour space for the image. Choose it, wait a couple of seconds, then save your image and it should now be embedded with the Adobe1998 profile. It assigns a new profile and changes the data of the image.
Open up the image into Photoshop and in the bottom left just under the picture, you should see a line that gives a little info about the image. Click on it's drop-down and you will see all the data on the image , such as document size and document profile. Click on document profile and you'll see the confirmed colour space of the image.
The idea is to have everything from camera to printer talking the same language. If I may suggest it : Enter 'Colour Management' into Google and have a read of some of the articles pertaining to it - it'll give you some idea of how your workflow should be ( especially useful if you ever start printing your pictures at home ). Just don't get hung up on it because it can get a bit complicated at times.
As for saving images to the desktop for copying to a CD at your leisure, open Finder and click on File->New Burn Folder and give the folder a suitable name. The folder will save to the desktop and then simply drag the images you intend to copy to CD into it. When you're ready to burn, double-click the folder and click on Burn, then insert a disc and follow the instructions. You can safely trash the contents of the folder when you have finished with them because it only saves an alias of an image.
I hope it helps you a little , although I also hope you'll forgive me for the long-winded reply !
Almost forgot, Sue.
A white border is fine if you're considering mounting the images in frames. Really, it's a personal preference thing. Border or full bleed depending on the final look you're after, I guess.
Labs prefer very little editing work done to your photos to make life easy all round - some labs don't accept images that have used layers. I'd have to admit to not knowing the precise reasons why, although I'm sure the answer's a simple one.
Images dragged from CS3 OR Lightroom should be fine. I shouldn't think it would make a difference.
Right then.....I'm off to bandage my typing fingers.
thanks for your time and great explanation.