7 Replies Latest reply on May 9, 2008 1:22 PM by (igal_godkof)

    icc profile: dot gain in indesign cs2

      hi

      wen i place picture gray scale (profile dot gain 20%) from
      pS to iDcs2 - in dialog of "color" i dont have
      the option to choose profile1?

      but if the picture in cmyk or rgb the option its ok, i see the profile.

      it's possible iD dont have option to see profile gray scale?

      thanks
        • 1. Re: icc profile: dot gain in indesign cs2
          Larry Tseng Level 1
          Hello Igal,

          Grayscale color management is not supported by InDesign.

          Larry
          • 2. Re: icc profile: dot gain in indesign cs2
            (Marco_Ugolini) Level 1
            Larry Tseng wrote:

            > Grayscale color management is not supported by InDesign.

            Sadly so, I would add. :-(
            • 4. Re: icc profile: dot gain in indesign cs2
              I'm using for Grayscales a profile which
              is derived from standard CMYK profiles by
              Gray > Load Gray > ISO Coated.
              This results in a Gray profile
              'Black Ink - ISO Coated'.

              InDesign CS2 shows this profile name by double-
              clicking on the link (link informations).

              So we know the profile, but IMO (also according
              to previous discussions with Larry), InDesign
              doesn't change the appearance depending on
              the profile.

              By the way: for offset printing the Grayscale
              should be pasted already in PhS into the K-channel
              of an empty CMYK file with the same pixel size.
              Now we have an ISOCoated file (accidently K-only),
              which is probably handled like other ISOCoated
              files.

              Best regards --Gernot Hoffmann
              • 5. Re: icc profile: dot gain in indesign cs2
                Level 1
                hi,Gernot Hoffmann

                yes i make this to offset print.

                i have ander question:
                if i place grayscle from pS to iD - it's make black (k=100) rich
                black wen i export to pdf press. but if i choose "no conversion"
                in dialog box of "output" in iD, it's ok: the black it's k=100
                it's because the grayscale in pS it's RGB value?
                do you have any idea how make this k=100 from pS to iD
                without "no convertion"?

                thanks!

                sori abut may inglish... i from midlleast
                • 6. Re: icc profile: dot gain in indesign cs2
                  Larry Tseng Level 1
                  Igal,

                  It is possible to do a grayscale to grayscale conversion in InDesign in a roundabout way, provided that the destination profile is grayscale, i.e., you are printing one-color.

                  Here, your source and destination grayscale profiles will need to be replaced by CMYK profiles with GCR black generation set to 100%. InDesign can see these profiles, and the conversion will be K-only to K-only.

                  You can create max black versions of your grayscale profiles in Photoshop: just select Edit / Color Settings / Working Spaces / CMYK / Custom CMYK (this is a pull down menu), set GCR Black Generation to 100%, and fill in the necessary information for dot gain. Then save the profile via Save CMYK in the same pull down menu.

                  Things get a little more complicated if you don't have a grayscale profile of your destination to start with, but do have a CMYK profile. Here you'll need some way of extracting the K-only dot gain data from the CMYK profile to put in the max black profile that you create in Photoshop.

                  Hope this helps,

                  Larry
                  • 7. Re: icc profile: dot gain in indesign cs2
                    Level 1
                    amazing!!!!

                    thanks Larry tseng! it's wokr!