5 Replies Latest reply: Feb 8, 2009 12:44 AM by Glenn Williams RSS

    ARB issues posted

    matt_chotin Community Member
      Hey all,

      The Flex team has a group called the Architecture Review Board that meets
      regularly to address issues that seem to be coming up. It's the kind of
      group that often gets to deal with the "hallway conversation" issues. I've
      taken a number of the issues that we've resolved over the last few months
      and put the notes from those decisions on the Gumbo page
      (http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk/Gumbo) down at the bottom.

      A few notes, the ones that are already closed should be marked as such.
      There are 2 at the bottom that are getting resolved now, so I've opened the
      comments section if you're interested. Finally the Halo/MXML prefix issue
      is potentially going to be re-opened dependingon the outcome of the Fx
      prefix discussion (which I'll be posting more about later today).

      We will briefly discuss the ARB issues in our standard iteration meeting,
      and will be better about having notes posted as the decision is coming up as
      we move forward.

      Matt
        • 1. Re: ARB issues posted
          Glenn Williams Community Member
          Hi Mat,

          Thanks for taking the time to make these Docs available.

          I hope that at some point there'll be PDFs as well as HTML of all the
          documents (i understand the problems with docs still in flux)

          Either way, just wanted to say that it's appreciated.

          Cheers
          glenn
          tinylion development uk
          • 2. Re: ARB issues posted
            matt_chotin Community Member
            Er, I wasn’t really going to spend time creating PDFs of this stuff.  What benefit would that have?  We don’t have them in a non-wiki form or anything, what you see is what we have (I just have them on a different wiki internally and copied them out).



            Matt





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            Hi Mat,



            Thanks for taking the time to make these Docs available.



            I hope that at some point there'll be PDFs as well as HTML of all the

            documents  (i understand the problems with docs still in flux)



            Either way, just wanted to say that it's appreciated.



            Cheers

            glenn

            tinylion development uk









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            • 3. Re: ARB issues posted
              Glenn Williams Community Member
              <div class=Section1><br /><br /><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";<br />color:#1F497D'>Hi mate,<o:p></o:p></span></p><br /><br /><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";<br />color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><br /><br /><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";<br />color:#1F497D'>I was really referring to all the docs, the ARB ones less so<br />though in truth.<o:p></o:p></span></p><br /><br /><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";<br />color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><br /><br /><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";<br />color:#1F497D'>It&#8217;s a minor issue though, I suppose I really just wish<br />they printed a little nicer.<o:p></o:p></span></p><br /><br /><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";<br />color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><br /><br /><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";<br />color:#1F497D'>While I&#8217;m on the subject one thing I do wish the page<br />displayed is a  &#8216;last modified&#8217; date next to the title of each<br />document.<o:p></o:p></span></p><br /><br /><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";<br />color:#1F497D'>I&#8217;m never really sure when/if things have been changed or<br />updated other than by opening each .<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></p><br /><br /><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";<br />color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><br /><br /><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";<br />color:#1F497D'>Again it&#8217;s a minor point.<o:p></o:p></span></p><br /><br /><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";<br />color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><br /><br /><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";<br />color:#1F497D'>The ARB Doc&#8217;s were a very interesting read (I think that<br />means I need to get out more!)<o:p></o:p></span></p><br /><br /><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";<br />color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><br /><br /><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";<br />color:#1F497D'>g<o:p></o:p></span></p><br /><br /><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";<br />color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><br /><br /><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";<br />color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><br /><br /><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";<br />color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><br /><br /><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><br /><br /><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:<br />"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;<br />font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Matt Chotin [mailto:member@adobeforums.com]<br /><br><br /><b>Sent:</b> 07 February 2009 01:19<br><br /><b>To:</b> flexsdk-dev@adobeforums.com<br><br /><b>Subject:</b> Re: ARB issues posted<o:p></o:p></span></p><br /><br /></div><br /><br /><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><br /><br /><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>A new message was posted by<br />Matt Chotin in <br><br /><br><br /><b>Developers</b> --<br><br />  ARB issues posted<br><br /><br><br /><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Er, I<br />wasn&#8217;t really going to spend time creating PDFs of this stuff.  What<br />benefit would that have?  We don&#8217;t have them in a non-wiki form or<br />anything, what you see is what we have (I just have them on a different wiki<br />internally and copied them out).<br><br /><br><br />Matt<br><br /><br><br /><br><br />On 2/6/09 3:24 PM, &quot;tinylion&quot; &lt;<a href="member@adobeforums.com">member@adobeforums.com</a>&gt;<br />wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p><br /><br /><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;<br />font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>A new message was posted by tinylion in<br><br /><br><br />Developers --<br><br />  ARB issues posted<br><br /><br><br />Hi Mat,<br><br /><br><br />Thanks for taking the time to make these Docs available.<br><br /><br><br />I hope that at some point there'll be PDFs as well as HTML of all the<br><br />documents  (i understand the problems with docs still in flux)<br><br /><br><br />Either way, just wanted to say that it's appreciated.<br><br /><br><br />Cheers<br><br />glenn<br><br />tinylion development uk<br><br /><br><br /><br><br /><br><br /><br><br />------------------------------------------------------<br><br />View/reply at &lt;<a href="http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?13@@.59b7cda3/0">http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?13 @@.59b7cda3/0</a>&gt;<br><br />Replies by email are OK.<br><br />Use the unsubscribe form at &lt;<a<br />href="http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?280@@.59b7cda3!folder=.3c060fa3">http://www.adobe forums.com/webx?280@@.59b7cda3!folder=.3c060fa3</a>&gt;<br />to cancel your email subscription.</span><o:p></o:p></p><br /><br /><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><br /><br /><div class=MsoNormal><br /><br /><hr size=2 width=200 style='width:150.0pt' align=left><br /><br /></div><br /><br /><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>View/reply at <a<br />href="http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?13@@.59b7cda3/1">ARB issues posted</a><br><br />Replies by email are OK.<br><br />Use the <a<br />href="http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?280@@.59b7cda3!folder=.3c060fa3">unsubscribe</a>< br />form to cancel your email subscription.<o:p></o:p></p><br /><br /></div>
              • 4. Re: ARB issues posted
                matt_chotin Community Member
                Yeah, given our push for a paperless world I’m not sure if I can spend a lot of time trying to make pretty PDFs :-)  I know that the confluence standard output with our current template doesn’t convert to PDF nicely.  If you guys have suggestions for a template we can use that would produce better output we’re more than happy to look.  Same goes for getting the modified date next to document.  I think we’ve only figured out how to easily get Confluence to report on the current page, not the pages we’re linking to.  And updating manually is probably not that reliable.  I definitely recommend using the Pages RSS feed that I got added to the sidebar.  90% of the updates you’ll see are each night when we add the changelist and update the download page with a nightly build.  But you’ll also see when new specs appear and when other pages are updated.



                Sorry, not much help but I’m just trying to prioritize things :-)



                Matt





                On 2/6/09 5:58 PM, "tinylion" < member@adobeforums.com> wrote:



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                Hi mate,

                 

                I was really referring to all the docs, the ARB ones less so though in truth.

                 

                It’s a minor issue though, I suppose I really just wish they printed a little nicer.

                 

                While I’m on the subject one thing I do wish the page displayed is a  ‘last modified’ date next to the title of each document.

                I’m never really sure when/if things have been changed or updated other than by opening each .

                 

                Again it’s a minor point.

                 

                The ARB Doc’s were a very interesting read (I think that means I need to get out more!)

                 

                g

                 

                 

                 

                From: Matt Chotin [ mailto:member@adobeforums.com]

                Sent: 07 February 2009 01:19

                To: flexsdk-dev@adobeforums.com

                Subject: Re: ARB issues posted



                A new message was posted by Matt Chotin in



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                Er, I wasn’t really going to spend time creating PDFs of this stuff.  What benefit would that have?  We don’t have them in a non-wiki form or anything, what you see is what we have (I just have them on a different wiki internally and copied them out).



                Matt





                On 2/6/09 3:24 PM, "tinylion" < member@adobeforums.com> wrote:

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                Hi Mat,



                Thanks for taking the time to make these Docs available.



                I hope that at some point there'll be PDFs as well as HTML of all the

                documents  (i understand the problems with docs still in flux)



                Either way, just wanted to say that it's appreciated.



                Cheers

                glenn

                tinylion development uk









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                • 5. Re: ARB issues posted
                  Glenn Williams Community Member
                  <div class=Section1><br /><br /><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";<br />color:#1F497D'>Cheers fella<o:p></o:p></span></p><br /><br /><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";<br />color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><br /><br /><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";<br />color:#1F497D'>As it said, it was a very little import. </span><span<br />style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span<br />style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></ span></p><br /><br /><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";<br />color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><br /><br /><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><br /><br /><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:<br />"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;<br />font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Matt Chotin [mailto:member@adobeforums.com]<br /><br><br /><b>Sent:</b> 07 February 2009 20:26<br><br /><b>To:</b> flexsdk-dev@adobeforums.com<br><br /><b>Subject:</b> Re: ARB issues posted<o:p></o:p></span></p><br /><br /></div><br /><br /><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><br /><br /><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>A new message was posted by<br />Matt Chotin in <br><br /><br><br /><b>Developers</b> --<br><br />  ARB issues posted<br><br /><br><br /><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Yeah, given<br />our push for a paperless world I&#8217;m not sure if I can spend a lot of time<br />trying to make pretty PDFs :-)  I know that the confluence standard output<br />with our current template doesn&#8217;t convert to PDF nicely.  If you<br />guys have suggestions for a template we can use that would produce better output<br />we&#8217;re more than happy to look.  Same goes for getting the modified<br />date next to document.  I think we&#8217;ve only figured out how to easily<br />get Confluence to report on the current page, not the pages we&#8217;re linking<br />to.  And updating manually is probably not that reliable.  I<br />definitely recommend using the Pages RSS feed that I got added to the sidebar.<br /> 90% of the updates you&#8217;ll see are each night when we add the<br />changelist and update the download page with a nightly build.  But you&#8217;ll<br />also see when new specs appear and when other pages are updated.<br><br /><br><br />Sorry, not much help but I&#8217;m just trying to prioritize things :-)<br><br /><br><br />Matt<br><br /><br><br /><br><br />On 2/6/09 5:58 PM, &quot;tinylion&quot; &lt;<a href="member@adobeforums.com">member@adobeforums.com</a>&gt;<br />wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p><br /><br /><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>A<br />new message was posted by tinylion in <br><br /><br><br /><b>Developers</b> --<br><br />  ARB issues posted<br><br /><br><br /><br><br />Hi mate,<br><br /> <br><br />I was really referring to all the docs, the ARB ones less so though in truth.<br><br /> <br><br />It&#8217;s a minor issue though, I suppose I really just wish they printed a<br />little nicer.<br><br /> <br><br />While I&#8217;m on the subject one thing I do wish the page displayed is a<br /> &#8216;last modified&#8217; date next to the title of each document.<br><br />I&#8217;m never really sure when/if things have been changed or updated other<br />than by opening each .<br><br /> <br><br />Again it&#8217;s a minor point.<br><br /> <br><br />The ARB Doc&#8217;s were a very interesting read (I think that means I need to<br />get out more!)<br><br /> <br><br />g<br><br /> <br><br /> <br><br /> <br><br /></span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span<br />style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Matt Chotin [<a<br />href="mailto:member@adobeforums.com">mailto:member@adobeforums.com</a>] <br><br /><b>Sent:</b> 07 February 2009 01:19<br><br /><b>To:</b> <a href="flexsdk-dev@adobeforums.com">flexsdk-dev@adobeforums.com</a><br><br /><b>Subject:</b> Re: ARB issues posted<br><br /></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><br><br />A new message was posted by Matt Chotin in <br><br /><br><br /><b>Developers</b> --<br><br />  ARB issues posted<br><br /><br><br />Er, I wasn&#8217;t really going to spend time creating PDFs of this stuff.<br /> What benefit would that have?  We don&#8217;t have them in a<br />non-wiki form or anything, what you see is what we have (I just have them on a<br />different wiki internally and copied them out).<br><br /><br><br />Matt<br><br /><br><br /><br><br />On 2/6/09 3:24 PM, &quot;tinylion&quot; &lt;<a href="member@adobeforums.com">member@adobeforums.com</a>&gt;<br />wrote:<br><br />A new message was posted by tinylion in<br><br /><br><br />Developers --<br><br />  ARB issues posted<br><br /><br><br />Hi Mat,<br><br /><br><br />Thanks for taking the time to make these Docs available.<br><br /><br><br />I hope that at some point there'll be PDFs as well as HTML of all the<br><br />documents  (i understand the problems with docs still in flux)<br><br /><br><br />Either way, just wanted to say that it's appreciated.<br><br /><br><br />Cheers<br><br />glenn<br><br />tinylion development uk<br><br /><br><br /><br><br /><br><br /><br><br />------------------------------------------------------<br><br />View/reply at &lt;<a href="http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?13@@.59b7cda3/0">http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?13 @@.59b7cda3/0</a>&gt;<br><br />Replies by email are OK.<br><br />Use the unsubscribe form at &lt;<a<br />href="http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?280@@.59b7cda3!folder=.3c060fa3">http://www.adobe forums.com/webx?280@@.59b7cda3!folder=.3c060fa3</a>&gt;<br />to cancel your email subscription.<br><br /> <o:p></o:p></span></p><br /><br /><div class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><br /><br /><hr size=2 width=200 style='width:150.0pt' align=left><br /><br /></span></div><br /><br /><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;<br />font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>View/reply at ARB issues posted &lt;<a<br />href="http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?13@@.59b7cda3/1">http://www.adobeforums.com/webx? 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