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    OT Murray

    Level 7
      Hay Murray,
      I like your new look for great web sites, Just wanted to let you know that
      this is not working on your our sites page.
      Mouse over for site name.
      Dave


        • 1. Re: OT Murray
          Level 7
          Thanks, Dave! I'll check it out....

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          "Baxter" <baxter(RemoveThe :-)@gtlakes.com> wrote in message
          news:gllbbh$66l$1@forums.macromedia.com...
          > Hay Murray,
          > I like your new look for great web sites, Just wanted to let you know that
          > this is not working on your our sites page.
          > Mouse over for site name.
          > Dave
          >
          >

          • 2. Re: OT Murray
            Level 7
            Murray has a website? Kewl!

            --

            Walt


            "Baxter" <baxter(RemoveThe :-)@gtlakes.com> wrote in message
            news:gllbbh$66l$1@forums.macromedia.com...
            > Hay Murray,
            > I like your new look for great web sites, Just wanted to let you know that
            > this is not working on your our sites page.
            > Mouse over for site name.
            > Dave
            >
            >


            • 3. Re: OT Murray
              Level 7
              Template Monster....

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              "Walt F. Schaefer" <walt@waltswebworx.com> wrote in message
              news:gllccp$7cg$1@forums.macromedia.com...
              > Murray has a website? Kewl!
              >
              > --
              >
              > Walt
              >
              >
              > "Baxter" <baxter(RemoveThe :-)@gtlakes.com> wrote in message
              > news:gllbbh$66l$1@forums.macromedia.com...
              >> Hay Murray,
              >> I like your new look for great web sites, Just wanted to let you know
              >> that
              >> this is not working on your our sites page.
              >> Mouse over for site name.
              >> Dave
              >>
              >>
              >
              >

              • 4. Re: OT Murray
                Nedward Level 1
                Look like someone has been reading the David Powers books re Spry Validation and Fieldsets.

                Looks nice!
                • 5. Re: OT Murray
                  Level 7
                  Thanks!

                  David's books have helped me out enormously.

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                  "Nedward" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
                  news:gllg2j$bma$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                  > Look like someone has been reading the David Powers books re Spry
                  > Validation and Fieldsets.
                  >
                  > Looks nice!

                  • 6. Re: OT Murray
                    Level 7
                    Which browser are you seeing this in? It looks fine to me in FF3x.

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                    "Baxter" <baxter(RemoveThe :-)@gtlakes.com> wrote in message
                    news:gllbbh$66l$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                    > Hay Murray,
                    > I like your new look for great web sites, Just wanted to let you know that
                    > this is not working on your our sites page.
                    > Mouse over for site name.
                    > Dave
                    >
                    >

                    • 7. Re: OT Murray
                      Level 7
                      http://great-web-sights.com/g_sites.php

                      FYI....It's not working for me in IE7 (WinXP Pro SP3)

                      MD


                      Murray *ACE* wrote:
                      > Which browser are you seeing this in? It looks fine to me in FF3x.
                      >
                      >
                      > "Baxter" <baxter(RemoveThe :-)@gtlakes.com> wrote in message
                      > news:gllbbh$66l$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                      >> Hay Murray,
                      >> I like your new look for great web sites, Just wanted to let you
                      >> know that this is not working on your our sites page.
                      >> Mouse over for site name.
                      >> Dave


                      • 8. Re: OT Murray
                        Level 7
                        The one that comes standard on a old windows 2000 IE6
                        sorry I just like the speed I get with this system. I'll check on IE 7 and
                        see what happens.
                        Dave
                        "Murray *ACE*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
                        news:gllgb7$btj$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                        > Which browser are you seeing this in? It looks fine to me in FF3x.
                        >
                        > --
                        > Murray --- ICQ 71997575
                        > Adobe Community Expert
                        > (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
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                        > http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
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                        >
                        >
                        > "Baxter" <baxter(RemoveThe :-)@gtlakes.com> wrote in message
                        > news:gllbbh$66l$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                        > > Hay Murray,
                        > > I like your new look for great web sites, Just wanted to let you know
                        that
                        > > this is not working on your our sites page.
                        > > Mouse over for site name.
                        > > Dave
                        > >
                        > >
                        >


                        • 9. Re: OT Murray
                          Level 7
                          Works in FF3x for me in Safari, but not IE7 or Firefox/2.0.0.11 or IE6 Sorry
                          Dave
                          "Murray *ACE*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
                          news:gllgb7$btj$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                          > Which browser are you seeing this in? It looks fine to me in FF3x.
                          >
                          > --
                          > Murray --- ICQ 71997575
                          > Adobe Community Expert
                          > (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
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                          > http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
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                          >
                          >
                          > "Baxter" <baxter(RemoveThe :-)@gtlakes.com> wrote in message
                          > news:gllbbh$66l$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                          > > Hay Murray,
                          > > I like your new look for great web sites, Just wanted to let you know
                          that
                          > > this is not working on your our sites page.
                          > > Mouse over for site name.
                          > > Dave
                          > >
                          > >
                          >


                          • 10. Re: OT Murray
                            Level 7
                            OK - thanks!

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                            "Baxter" <baxter(RemoveThe :-)@gtlakes.com> wrote in message
                            news:gllhjs$de6$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                            > Works in FF3x for me in Safari, but not IE7 or Firefox/2.0.0.11 or IE6
                            > Sorry
                            > Dave
                            > "Murray *ACE*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
                            > news:gllgb7$btj$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                            >> Which browser are you seeing this in? It looks fine to me in FF3x.
                            >>
                            >> --
                            >> Murray --- ICQ 71997575
                            >> Adobe Community Expert
                            >> (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
                            >> ==================
                            >> http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
                            >> http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
                            >> ==================
                            >>
                            >>
                            >> "Baxter" <baxter(RemoveThe :-)@gtlakes.com> wrote in message
                            >> news:gllbbh$66l$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                            >> > Hay Murray,
                            >> > I like your new look for great web sites, Just wanted to let you know
                            > that
                            >> > this is not working on your our sites page.
                            >> > Mouse over for site name.
                            >> > Dave
                            >> >
                            >> >
                            >>
                            >
                            >

                            • 11. Re: OT Murray
                              Level 7
                              I think Baxter is the ADA compliance officer.

                              Watch out!

                              "Murray *ACE*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
                              news:gllhmu$dhm$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                              > OK - thanks!
                              >
                              > --
                              > Murray --- ICQ 71997575
                              > Adobe Community Expert
                              > (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
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                              > http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
                              > ==================
                              >
                              >
                              > "Baxter" <baxter(RemoveThe :-)@gtlakes.com> wrote in message
                              > news:gllhjs$de6$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                              >> Works in FF3x for me in Safari, but not IE7 or Firefox/2.0.0.11 or IE6
                              >> Sorry
                              >> Dave
                              >> "Murray *ACE*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
                              >> news:gllgb7$btj$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                              >>> Which browser are you seeing this in? It looks fine to me in FF3x.
                              >>>
                              >>> --
                              >>> Murray --- ICQ 71997575
                              >>> Adobe Community Expert
                              >>> (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
                              >>> ==================
                              >>> http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
                              >>> http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
                              >>> ==================
                              >>>
                              >>>
                              >>> "Baxter" <baxter(RemoveThe :-)@gtlakes.com> wrote in message
                              >>> news:gllbbh$66l$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                              >>> > Hay Murray,
                              >>> > I like your new look for great web sites, Just wanted to let you know
                              >> that
                              >>> > this is not working on your our sites page.
                              >>> > Mouse over for site name.
                              >>> > Dave
                              >>> >
                              >>> >
                              >>>
                              >>
                              >>
                              >


                              • 12. Re: OT Murray
                                Level 7
                                To funny!!!!!!!! LOL :-)
                                "Cosmo Kramer" <XinfoX@XyiqvX.org> wrote in message
                                news:glljcj$f9u$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                > I think Baxter is the ADA compliance officer.
                                >
                                > Watch out!
                                >
                                > "Murray *ACE*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
                                > news:gllhmu$dhm$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                > > OK - thanks!
                                > >
                                > > --
                                > > Murray --- ICQ 71997575
                                > > Adobe Community Expert
                                > > (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
                                > > ==================
                                > > http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
                                > > http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
                                > > ==================
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > "Baxter" <baxter(RemoveThe :-)@gtlakes.com> wrote in message
                                > > news:gllhjs$de6$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                > >> Works in FF3x for me in Safari, but not IE7 or Firefox/2.0.0.11 or IE6
                                > >> Sorry
                                > >> Dave
                                > >> "Murray *ACE*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
                                > >> news:gllgb7$btj$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                > >>> Which browser are you seeing this in? It looks fine to me in FF3x.
                                > >>>
                                > >>> --
                                > >>> Murray --- ICQ 71997575
                                > >>> Adobe Community Expert
                                > >>> (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
                                > >>> ==================
                                > >>> http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
                                > >>> http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
                                > >>> ==================
                                > >>>
                                > >>>
                                > >>> "Baxter" <baxter(RemoveThe :-)@gtlakes.com> wrote in message
                                > >>> news:gllbbh$66l$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                > >>> > Hay Murray,
                                > >>> > I like your new look for great web sites, Just wanted to let you
                                know
                                > >> that
                                > >>> > this is not working on your our sites page.
                                > >>> > Mouse over for site name.
                                > >>> > Dave
                                > >>> >
                                > >>> >
                                > >>>
                                > >>
                                > >>
                                > >
                                >
                                >


                                • 13. Re: OT Murray
                                  Level 7
                                  Hi Murray,

                                  Lol...this almost needs a disclaimer.
                                  I fear someone just learning will think, "Wow! I can get a template like
                                  that at Template Monster?"
                                  The answer of course....Not a chance! There, now I feel better.

                                  Great looking and functional site. Love the colors and the subtle shadows.

                                  What's with all the <font> tags and table heights?
                                  :::grin:::
                                  ;-)

                                  I know you didn't ask for a critique, but IMHO, well done.
                                  If I were a potential customer, I'd feel very comfortable taking the next
                                  step in talking to you about building a site for me.

                                  Take care,
                                  Tim



                                  "Murray *ACE*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
                                  news:gllch5$7ho$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                  > Template Monster....
                                  >
                                  > --
                                  > Murray --- ICQ 71997575
                                  > Adobe Community Expert
                                  > (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
                                  > ==================
                                  > http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
                                  > http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
                                  > ==================
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > "Walt F. Schaefer" <walt@waltswebworx.com> wrote in message
                                  > news:gllccp$7cg$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                  >> Murray has a website? Kewl!
                                  >>
                                  >> --
                                  >>
                                  >> Walt
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >> "Baxter" <baxter(RemoveThe :-)@gtlakes.com> wrote in message
                                  >> news:gllbbh$66l$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                  >>> Hay Murray,
                                  >>> I like your new look for great web sites, Just wanted to let you know
                                  >>> that
                                  >>> this is not working on your our sites page.
                                  >>> Mouse over for site name.
                                  >>> Dave
                                  >>>
                                  >>>
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >


                                  • 14. Re: OT Murray
                                    Level 7
                                    > What's with all the <font> tags and table heights?

                                    Template Monster?

                                    8)


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                                    "TC2112" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
                                    news:glln53$jm5$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                    > Hi Murray,
                                    >
                                    > Lol...this almost needs a disclaimer.
                                    > I fear someone just learning will think, "Wow! I can get a template like
                                    > that at Template Monster?"
                                    > The answer of course....Not a chance! There, now I feel better.
                                    >
                                    > Great looking and functional site. Love the colors and the subtle shadows.
                                    >
                                    > What's with all the <font> tags and table heights?
                                    > :::grin:::
                                    > ;-)
                                    >
                                    > I know you didn't ask for a critique, but IMHO, well done.
                                    > If I were a potential customer, I'd feel very comfortable taking the next
                                    > step in talking to you about building a site for me.
                                    >
                                    > Take care,
                                    > Tim
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > "Murray *ACE*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
                                    > news:gllch5$7ho$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                    >> Template Monster....
                                    >>
                                    >> --
                                    >> Murray --- ICQ 71997575
                                    >> Adobe Community Expert
                                    >> (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
                                    >> ==================
                                    >> http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
                                    >> http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
                                    >> ==================
                                    >>
                                    >>
                                    >> "Walt F. Schaefer" <walt@waltswebworx.com> wrote in message
                                    >> news:gllccp$7cg$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                    >>> Murray has a website? Kewl!
                                    >>>
                                    >>> --
                                    >>>
                                    >>> Walt
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>> "Baxter" <baxter(RemoveThe :-)@gtlakes.com> wrote in message
                                    >>> news:gllbbh$66l$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                    >>>> Hay Murray,
                                    >>>> I like your new look for great web sites, Just wanted to let you know
                                    >>>> that
                                    >>>> this is not working on your our sites page.
                                    >>>> Mouse over for site name.
                                    >>>> Dave
                                    >>>>
                                    >>>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>
                                    >
                                    >

                                    • 15. Re: OT Murray
                                      Level 7
                                      Touché :-)

                                      "Murray *ACE*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
                                      news:gllor8$lji$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                      >> What's with all the <font> tags and table heights?
                                      >
                                      > Template Monster?
                                      >
                                      > 8)
                                      >
                                      >
                                      > --
                                      > Murray --- ICQ 71997575
                                      > Adobe Community Expert
                                      > (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
                                      > ==================
                                      > http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
                                      > http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
                                      > ==================
                                      >
                                      >
                                      > "TC2112" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
                                      > news:glln53$jm5$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                      >> Hi Murray,
                                      >>
                                      >> Lol...this almost needs a disclaimer.
                                      >> I fear someone just learning will think, "Wow! I can get a template like
                                      >> that at Template Monster?"
                                      >> The answer of course....Not a chance! There, now I feel better.
                                      >>
                                      >> Great looking and functional site. Love the colors and the subtle
                                      >> shadows.
                                      >>
                                      >> What's with all the <font> tags and table heights?
                                      >> :::grin:::
                                      >> ;-)
                                      >>
                                      >> I know you didn't ask for a critique, but IMHO, well done.
                                      >> If I were a potential customer, I'd feel very comfortable taking the next
                                      >> step in talking to you about building a site for me.
                                      >>
                                      >> Take care,
                                      >> Tim
                                      >>
                                      >>
                                      >>
                                      >> "Murray *ACE*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
                                      >> news:gllch5$7ho$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                      >>> Template Monster....
                                      >>>
                                      >>> --
                                      >>> Murray --- ICQ 71997575
                                      >>> Adobe Community Expert
                                      >>> (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
                                      >>> ==================
                                      >>> http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
                                      >>> http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
                                      >>> ==================
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>> "Walt F. Schaefer" <walt@waltswebworx.com> wrote in message
                                      >>> news:gllccp$7cg$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                      >>>> Murray has a website? Kewl!
                                      >>>>
                                      >>>> --
                                      >>>>
                                      >>>> Walt
                                      >>>>
                                      >>>>
                                      >>>> "Baxter" <baxter(RemoveThe :-)@gtlakes.com> wrote in message
                                      >>>> news:gllbbh$66l$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                      >>>>> Hay Murray,
                                      >>>>> I like your new look for great web sites, Just wanted to let you know
                                      >>>>> that
                                      >>>>> this is not working on your our sites page.
                                      >>>>> Mouse over for site name.
                                      >>>>> Dave
                                      >>>>>
                                      >>>>>
                                      >>>>
                                      >>>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>
                                      >>
                                      >


                                      • 16. Re: OT Murray
                                        Level 7
                                        What's wrong with Template Monster? Having only heard of them today and just
                                        looking at their front page I have no idea whether they are good or bad...

                                        Bruce


                                        "Murray *ACE*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
                                        news:gllor8$lji$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                        >> What's with all the <font> tags and table heights?
                                        >
                                        > Template Monster?
                                        >
                                        > 8)
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > --
                                        > Murray --- ICQ 71997575
                                        > Adobe Community Expert
                                        > (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
                                        > ==================
                                        > http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
                                        > http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
                                        > ==================
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > "TC2112" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
                                        > news:glln53$jm5$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                        >> Hi Murray,
                                        >>
                                        >> Lol...this almost needs a disclaimer.
                                        >> I fear someone just learning will think, "Wow! I can get a template like
                                        >> that at Template Monster?"
                                        >> The answer of course....Not a chance! There, now I feel better.
                                        >>
                                        >> Great looking and functional site. Love the colors and the subtle
                                        >> shadows.
                                        >>
                                        >> What's with all the <font> tags and table heights?
                                        >> :::grin:::
                                        >> ;-)
                                        >>
                                        >> I know you didn't ask for a critique, but IMHO, well done.
                                        >> If I were a potential customer, I'd feel very comfortable taking the next
                                        >> step in talking to you about building a site for me.
                                        >>
                                        >> Take care,
                                        >> Tim
                                        >>
                                        >>
                                        >>
                                        >> "Murray *ACE*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
                                        >> news:gllch5$7ho$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                        >>> Template Monster....
                                        >>>
                                        >>> --
                                        >>> Murray --- ICQ 71997575
                                        >>> Adobe Community Expert
                                        >>> (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
                                        >>> ==================
                                        >>> http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
                                        >>> http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
                                        >>> ==================
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>> "Walt F. Schaefer" <walt@waltswebworx.com> wrote in message
                                        >>> news:gllccp$7cg$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                        >>>> Murray has a website? Kewl!
                                        >>>>
                                        >>>> --
                                        >>>>
                                        >>>> Walt
                                        >>>>
                                        >>>>
                                        >>>> "Baxter" <baxter(RemoveThe :-)@gtlakes.com> wrote in message
                                        >>>> news:gllbbh$66l$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                        >>>>> Hay Murray,
                                        >>>>> I like your new look for great web sites, Just wanted to let you know
                                        >>>>> that
                                        >>>>> this is not working on your our sites page.
                                        >>>>> Mouse over for site name.
                                        >>>>> Dave
                                        >>>>>
                                        >>>>>
                                        >>>>
                                        >>>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>
                                        >>
                                        >


                                        • 17. Re: OT Murray
                                          Level 7
                                          It's a rip. Their code is poor, and they have spammed this forum in the
                                          past.

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                                          "bruce_code" <bwwcodebwwcode@@optusnetoptusnet..comcom..auau> wrote in
                                          message news:glm7o2$8fu$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                          > What's wrong with Template Monster? Having only heard of them today and
                                          > just looking at their front page I have no idea whether they are good or
                                          > bad...
                                          >
                                          > Bruce
                                          >
                                          >
                                          > "Murray *ACE*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
                                          > news:gllor8$lji$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                          >>> What's with all the <font> tags and table heights?
                                          >>
                                          >> Template Monster?
                                          >>
                                          >> 8)
                                          >>
                                          >>
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                                          >> "TC2112" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
                                          >> news:glln53$jm5$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                          >>> Hi Murray,
                                          >>>
                                          >>> Lol...this almost needs a disclaimer.
                                          >>> I fear someone just learning will think, "Wow! I can get a template like
                                          >>> that at Template Monster?"
                                          >>> The answer of course....Not a chance! There, now I feel better.
                                          >>>
                                          >>> Great looking and functional site. Love the colors and the subtle
                                          >>> shadows.
                                          >>>
                                          >>> What's with all the <font> tags and table heights?
                                          >>> :::grin:::
                                          >>> ;-)
                                          >>>
                                          >>> I know you didn't ask for a critique, but IMHO, well done.
                                          >>> If I were a potential customer, I'd feel very comfortable taking the
                                          >>> next step in talking to you about building a site for me.
                                          >>>
                                          >>> Take care,
                                          >>> Tim
                                          >>>
                                          >>>
                                          >>>
                                          >>> "Murray *ACE*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
                                          >>> news:gllch5$7ho$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                          >>>> Template Monster....
                                          >>>>
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                                          >>>>
                                          >>>> "Walt F. Schaefer" <walt@waltswebworx.com> wrote in message
                                          >>>> news:gllccp$7cg$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                          >>>>> Murray has a website? Kewl!
                                          >>>>>
                                          >>>>> --
                                          >>>>>
                                          >>>>> Walt
                                          >>>>>
                                          >>>>>
                                          >>>>> "Baxter" <baxter(RemoveThe :-)@gtlakes.com> wrote in message
                                          >>>>> news:gllbbh$66l$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                          >>>>>> Hay Murray,
                                          >>>>>> I like your new look for great web sites, Just wanted to let you know
                                          >>>>>> that
                                          >>>>>> this is not working on your our sites page.
                                          >>>>>> Mouse over for site name.
                                          >>>>>> Dave
                                          >>>>>>
                                          >>>>>>
                                          >>>>>
                                          >>>>>
                                          >>>>
                                          >>>
                                          >>>
                                          >>
                                          >
                                          >

                                          • 18. Re: OT Murray
                                            Level 7

                                            "Murray *ACE*" wrote:

                                            > Which browser are you seeing this in? It looks fine to me in FF3x.

                                            > ==================
                                            >
                                            >
                                            > "Baxter" <baxter(RemoveThe :-)@gtlakes.com> wrote in message
                                            > news:gllbbh$66l$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                            >> Hay Murray,
                                            >> I like your new look for great web sites, Just wanted to let you know
                                            >> that
                                            >> this is not working on your our sites page.
                                            >> Mouse over for site name.
                                            >> Dave

                                            Looks ok in FF3, IE6, IE7... @ 13:05 GMT

                                            Cheers,

                                            JJ


                                            • 19. Re: OT Murray
                                              Level 7
                                              Thanks!

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                                              "Jay Jay" <jhabrix@yahoo.com> wrote in message
                                              news:gln133$8mc$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                              >
                                              > "Murray *ACE*" wrote:
                                              >
                                              >> Which browser are you seeing this in? It looks fine to me in FF3x.
                                              >
                                              >> ==================
                                              >>
                                              >>
                                              >> "Baxter" <baxter(RemoveThe :-)@gtlakes.com> wrote in message
                                              >> news:gllbbh$66l$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                              >>> Hay Murray,
                                              >>> I like your new look for great web sites, Just wanted to let you know
                                              >>> that
                                              >>> this is not working on your our sites page.
                                              >>> Mouse over for site name.
                                              >>> Dave
                                              >
                                              > Looks ok in FF3, IE6, IE7... @ 13:05 GMT
                                              >
                                              > Cheers,
                                              >
                                              > JJ
                                              >

                                              • 20. Re: OT Murray
                                                Level 7
                                                "Murray *ACE*" wrote:

                                                > Thanks!

                                                Most welcome :) It's the least i could do... !


                                                • 21. Re: OT Murray
                                                  Level 7
                                                  Works now in FF3x,Safari, IE7, Firefox/2.0.0.11.
                                                  But still not working in IE6 Sorry
                                                  Dave
                                                  "Murray *ACE*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
                                                  news:gln3hl$bkd$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                                  > Thanks!
                                                  >
                                                  > --
                                                  > Murray --- ICQ 71997575
                                                  > Adobe Community Expert
                                                  > (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
                                                  > ==================
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                                                  > http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
                                                  > ==================
                                                  >
                                                  >
                                                  > "Jay Jay" <jhabrix@yahoo.com> wrote in message
                                                  > news:gln133$8mc$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                                  > >
                                                  > > "Murray *ACE*" wrote:
                                                  > >
                                                  > >> Which browser are you seeing this in? It looks fine to me in FF3x.
                                                  > >
                                                  > >> ==================
                                                  > >>
                                                  > >>
                                                  > >> "Baxter" <baxter(RemoveThe :-)@gtlakes.com> wrote in message
                                                  > >> news:gllbbh$66l$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                                  > >>> Hay Murray,
                                                  > >>> I like your new look for great web sites, Just wanted to let you know
                                                  > >>> that
                                                  > >>> this is not working on your our sites page.
                                                  > >>> Mouse over for site name.
                                                  > >>> Dave
                                                  > >
                                                  > > Looks ok in FF3, IE6, IE7... @ 13:05 GMT
                                                  > >
                                                  > > Cheers,
                                                  > >
                                                  > > JJ
                                                  > >
                                                  >


                                                  • 22. Re: OT Murray
                                                    Level 7
                                                    Yeah - haven't gone back to it.... 8(

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                                                    "Baxter" <baxter(RemoveThe :-)@gtlakes.com> wrote in message
                                                    news:glnthl$dij$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                                    > Works now in FF3x,Safari, IE7, Firefox/2.0.0.11.
                                                    > But still not working in IE6 Sorry
                                                    > Dave
                                                    > "Murray *ACE*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
                                                    > news:gln3hl$bkd$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                                    >> Thanks!
                                                    >>
                                                    >> --
                                                    >> Murray --- ICQ 71997575
                                                    >> Adobe Community Expert
                                                    >> (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
                                                    >> ==================
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                                                    >> http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
                                                    >> ==================
                                                    >>
                                                    >>
                                                    >> "Jay Jay" <jhabrix@yahoo.com> wrote in message
                                                    >> news:gln133$8mc$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                                    >> >
                                                    >> > "Murray *ACE*" wrote:
                                                    >> >
                                                    >> >> Which browser are you seeing this in? It looks fine to me in FF3x.
                                                    >> >
                                                    >> >> ==================
                                                    >> >>
                                                    >> >>
                                                    >> >> "Baxter" <baxter(RemoveThe :-)@gtlakes.com> wrote in message
                                                    >> >> news:gllbbh$66l$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                                    >> >>> Hay Murray,
                                                    >> >>> I like your new look for great web sites, Just wanted to let you know
                                                    >> >>> that
                                                    >> >>> this is not working on your our sites page.
                                                    >> >>> Mouse over for site name.
                                                    >> >>> Dave
                                                    >> >
                                                    >> > Looks ok in FF3, IE6, IE7... @ 13:05 GMT
                                                    >> >
                                                    >> > Cheers,
                                                    >> >
                                                    >> > JJ
                                                    >> >
                                                    >>
                                                    >
                                                    >

                                                    • 23. Re: OT Murray
                                                      Level 7
                                                      Yeah I read jj's post and wondered about it.
                                                      Thanks.
                                                      "Murray *ACE*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
                                                      news:glnum8$esq$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                                      > Yeah - haven't gone back to it.... 8(
                                                      >
                                                      > --
                                                      > Murray --- ICQ 71997575
                                                      > Adobe Community Expert
                                                      > (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
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                                                      >
                                                      >
                                                      > "Baxter" <baxter(RemoveThe :-)@gtlakes.com> wrote in message
                                                      > news:glnthl$dij$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                                      > > Works now in FF3x,Safari, IE7, Firefox/2.0.0.11.
                                                      > > But still not working in IE6 Sorry
                                                      > > Dave
                                                      > > "Murray *ACE*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
                                                      > > news:gln3hl$bkd$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                                      > >> Thanks!
                                                      > >>
                                                      > >> --
                                                      > >> Murray --- ICQ 71997575
                                                      > >> Adobe Community Expert
                                                      > >> (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
                                                      > >> ==================
                                                      > >> http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
                                                      > >> http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
                                                      > >> ==================
                                                      > >>
                                                      > >>
                                                      > >> "Jay Jay" <jhabrix@yahoo.com> wrote in message
                                                      > >> news:gln133$8mc$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                                      > >> >
                                                      > >> > "Murray *ACE*" wrote:
                                                      > >> >
                                                      > >> >> Which browser are you seeing this in? It looks fine to me in FF3x.
                                                      > >> >
                                                      > >> >> ==================
                                                      > >> >>
                                                      > >> >>
                                                      > >> >> "Baxter" <baxter(RemoveThe :-)@gtlakes.com> wrote in message
                                                      > >> >> news:gllbbh$66l$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                                      > >> >>> Hay Murray,
                                                      > >> >>> I like your new look for great web sites, Just wanted to let you
                                                      know
                                                      > >> >>> that
                                                      > >> >>> this is not working on your our sites page.
                                                      > >> >>> Mouse over for site name.
                                                      > >> >>> Dave
                                                      > >> >
                                                      > >> > Looks ok in FF3, IE6, IE7... @ 13:05 GMT
                                                      > >> >
                                                      > >> > Cheers,
                                                      > >> >
                                                      > >> > JJ
                                                      > >> >
                                                      > >>
                                                      > >
                                                      > >
                                                      >


                                                      • 24. Re: OT Murray
                                                        Level 7
                                                        Looks like you got back to it. Works now for me in all browsers IE6 :-)
                                                        Dave
                                                        "Baxter" <baxter(RemoveThe :-)@gtlakes.com> wrote in message
                                                        news:gllbbh$66l$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                                        > Hay Murray,
                                                        > I like your new look for great web sites, Just wanted to let you know that
                                                        > this is not working on your our sites page.
                                                        > Mouse over for site name.
                                                        > Dave
                                                        >
                                                        >


                                                        • 25. Re: OT Murray
                                                          Level 7
                                                          Thanks, Dave! It's still not quite right, but at least you get the
                                                          mouseover effect in IE. This exercise exposed a very interesting glitch.
                                                          With IE, if you have a link with a title around an image with an alt
                                                          attribute, the alt attribute prevents the title from appearing - see
                                                          http://murraytestsite.com/title-vs-alt.html for an example. To my
                                                          knowledge, this has not been previously described, although I don't have
                                                          very good search phrases to try to find this.

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                                                          "Baxter" <baxter(RemoveThe :-)@gtlakes.com> wrote in message
                                                          news:gm4fth$8on$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                                          > Looks like you got back to it. Works now for me in all browsers IE6 :-)
                                                          > Dave
                                                          > "Baxter" <baxter(RemoveThe :-)@gtlakes.com> wrote in message
                                                          > news:gllbbh$66l$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                                          >> Hay Murray,
                                                          >> I like your new look for great web sites, Just wanted to let you know
                                                          >> that
                                                          >> this is not working on your our sites page.
                                                          >> Mouse over for site name.
                                                          >> Dave
                                                          >>
                                                          >>
                                                          >
                                                          >

                                                          • 26. Re: OT Murray
                                                            Level 7
                                                            On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:13:04 -0500, "Murray *ACE*"
                                                            <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote:

                                                            >Thanks, Dave! It's still not quite right, but at least you get the
                                                            >mouseover effect in IE. This exercise exposed a very interesting glitch.
                                                            >With IE, if you have a link with a title around an image with an alt
                                                            >attribute, the alt attribute prevents the title from appearing - see
                                                            > http://murraytestsite.com/title-vs-alt.html for an example. To my
                                                            >knowledge, this has not been previously described, although I don't have
                                                            >very good search phrases to try to find this.

                                                            One interesting caveat is that, if the image actually exists, you don't
                                                            have that problem. It only seems to do it when you have a missing image.
                                                            At least that's what a quick test revealed to me.

                                                            Gary
                                                            • 27. Re: OT Murray
                                                              Level 7
                                                              I found this which is why I think the pages I have made with a image and a
                                                              link worked in IE.
                                                              http://www.labnol.org/internet/using-alt-img-attributes-in-image-tags/5450/
                                                              Dave
                                                              "Murray *ACE*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
                                                              news:gm4hm7$ans$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                                              > Thanks, Dave! It's still not quite right, but at least you get the
                                                              > mouseover effect in IE. This exercise exposed a very interesting glitch.
                                                              > With IE, if you have a link with a title around an image with an alt
                                                              > attribute, the alt attribute prevents the title from appearing - see
                                                              > http://murraytestsite.com/title-vs-alt.html for an example. To my
                                                              > knowledge, this has not been previously described, although I don't have
                                                              > very good search phrases to try to find this.
                                                              >
                                                              > --
                                                              > Murray --- ICQ 71997575
                                                              > Adobe Community Expert
                                                              > (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
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                                                              > http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
                                                              > ==================
                                                              >
                                                              >
                                                              > "Baxter" <baxter(RemoveThe :-)@gtlakes.com> wrote in message
                                                              > news:gm4fth$8on$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                                              > > Looks like you got back to it. Works now for me in all browsers IE6 :-)
                                                              > > Dave
                                                              > > "Baxter" <baxter(RemoveThe :-)@gtlakes.com> wrote in message
                                                              > > news:gllbbh$66l$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                                              > >> Hay Murray,
                                                              > >> I like your new look for great web sites, Just wanted to let you know
                                                              > >> that
                                                              > >> this is not working on your our sites page.
                                                              > >> Mouse over for site name.
                                                              > >> Dave
                                                              > >>
                                                              > >>
                                                              > >
                                                              > >
                                                              >


                                                              • 28. Re: OT Murray
                                                                Level 7
                                                                .oO(Gary White)

                                                                >On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:13:04 -0500, "Murray *ACE*"
                                                                ><forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote:
                                                                >
                                                                >>Thanks, Dave! It's still not quite right, but at least you get the
                                                                >>mouseover effect in IE. This exercise exposed a very interesting glitch.
                                                                >>With IE, if you have a link with a title around an image with an alt
                                                                >>attribute, the alt attribute prevents the title from appearing - see
                                                                >> http://murraytestsite.com/title-vs-alt.html for an example. To my
                                                                >>knowledge, this has not been previously described, although I don't have
                                                                >>very good search phrases to try to find this.
                                                                >
                                                                >One interesting caveat is that, if the image actually exists, you don't
                                                                >have that problem. It only seems to do it when you have a missing image.
                                                                >At least that's what a quick test revealed to me.

                                                                I also have the same problem with existing images. In my galleries the
                                                                titles are on the links. This is required by the Litebox script which I
                                                                use in my galleries (and which I didn't modify yet to get the captions
                                                                from the images instead). The thumbnail images themselves don't have a
                                                                title and just empty alt attributes. Result in IE 6: no tooltip at all.

                                                                Micha
                                                                • 29. Re: OT Murray
                                                                  Level 7
                                                                  One more tidbit, here is some info from google on alt-attributes.

                                                                  http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2007/12/using-alt-attributes-smartly.html

                                                                  Dave.
                                                                  "Murray *ACE*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
                                                                  news:gm4hm7$ans$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                                                  > Thanks, Dave! It's still not quite right, but at least you get the
                                                                  > mouseover effect in IE. This exercise exposed a very interesting glitch.
                                                                  > With IE, if you have a link with a title around an image with an alt
                                                                  > attribute, the alt attribute prevents the title from appearing - see
                                                                  > http://murraytestsite.com/title-vs-alt.html for an example. To my
                                                                  > knowledge, this has not been previously described, although I don't have
                                                                  > very good search phrases to try to find this.
                                                                  >
                                                                  > --
                                                                  > Murray --- ICQ 71997575
                                                                  > Adobe Community Expert
                                                                  > (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
                                                                  > ==================
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                                                                  > http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
                                                                  > ==================
                                                                  >
                                                                  >
                                                                  > "Baxter" <baxter(RemoveThe :-)@gtlakes.com> wrote in message
                                                                  > news:gm4fth$8on$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                                                  > > Looks like you got back to it. Works now for me in all browsers IE6 :-)
                                                                  > > Dave
                                                                  > > "Baxter" <baxter(RemoveThe :-)@gtlakes.com> wrote in message
                                                                  > > news:gllbbh$66l$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                                                  > >> Hay Murray,
                                                                  > >> I like your new look for great web sites, Just wanted to let you know
                                                                  > >> that
                                                                  > >> this is not working on your our sites page.
                                                                  > >> Mouse over for site name.
                                                                  > >> Dave
                                                                  > >>
                                                                  > >>
                                                                  > >
                                                                  > >
                                                                  >


                                                                  • 30. Re: OT Murray
                                                                    Level 7
                                                                    .oO("Baxter" <baxter(RemoveThe :-)@gtlakes.com>)

                                                                    >I found this which is why I think the pages I have made with a image and a
                                                                    >link worked in IE.
                                                                    > http://www.labnol.org/internet/using-alt-img-attributes-in-image-tags/5450/

                                                                    I totally have to disagree with his conclusion:

                                                                    | [...] always add the ALT attribute to your images but include the
                                                                    | TITLE attribute only if the image is a link.

                                                                    The author seems to have missed the most important difference between
                                                                    these two attributes: title can be a description and is often rendered
                                                                    as a tooltip, but alt is meant as a textual _alternative_ in case the
                                                                    image can't be shown. A huge difference. It doesn't matter whether the
                                                                    image is linked or not. Titles can be very useful on non-linked images
                                                                    too and are not just there for SEO purposes.

                                                                    Given his example, of what value would be an alt text like "McDonald's
                                                                    Burger" on such a burger image? In a text browser it would read:

                                                                    | McDonald's Burger Lorem ipsum ...

                                                                    Surely a poor choice.

                                                                    Micha
                                                                    • 31. Re: OT Murray
                                                                      Level 7
                                                                      On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 18:33:51 +0100, Michael Fesser <netizen@gmx.de> wrote:

                                                                      >I also have the same problem with existing images. In my galleries the
                                                                      >titles are on the links. This is required by the Litebox script which I
                                                                      >use in my galleries (and which I didn't modify yet to get the captions
                                                                      >from the images instead). The thumbnail images themselves don't have a
                                                                      >title and just empty alt attributes. Result in IE 6: no tooltip at all.

                                                                      Interesting. My only way of running IE6 is using Virtual PC and I don't
                                                                      have a local server in Virtual PC, so the only way I can test in IE6 is to
                                                                      upload to an actual server. Unfortunately, I have a rather large backup
                                                                      operation running right now, so I can't do it until that completes. I'll
                                                                      try to remember to experiment a little further later.

                                                                      Gary
                                                                      • 32. Re: OT Murray
                                                                        Level 7
                                                                        .oO("Baxter" <baxter(RemoveThe :-)@gtlakes.com>)

                                                                        >One more tidbit, here is some info from google on alt-attributes.
                                                                        >
                                                                        > http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2007/12/using-alt-attributes-smartly.html

                                                                        Alt _tags_. If Google says it, it must be right ...

                                                                        SCNR ;)
                                                                        Micha
                                                                        • 33. Re: OT Murray
                                                                          Level 7
                                                                          .oO(Gary White)

                                                                          >On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 18:33:51 +0100, Michael Fesser <netizen@gmx.de> wrote:
                                                                          >
                                                                          >>I also have the same problem with existing images. In my galleries the
                                                                          >>titles are on the links. This is required by the Litebox script which I
                                                                          >>use in my galleries (and which I didn't modify yet to get the captions
                                                                          >>from the images instead). The thumbnail images themselves don't have a
                                                                          >>title and just empty alt attributes. Result in IE 6: no tooltip at all.
                                                                          >
                                                                          >Interesting. My only way of running IE6 is using Virtual PC and I don't
                                                                          >have a local server in Virtual PC, so the only way I can test in IE6 is to
                                                                          >upload to an actual server. Unfortunately, I have a rather large backup
                                                                          >operation running right now, so I can't do it until that completes. I'll
                                                                          >try to remember to experiment a little further later.

                                                                          Try the image at the end of this page:

                                                                          http://tsc.andreas-pauli.de/kjs/historie_schule

                                                                          It has a caption "Foto aus dem Jahr 2004" and also uses the same text in
                                                                          the title attribute as a feed for Litebox. Just hover your mouse over
                                                                          it. In modern browsers you'll get the correct tooltips on both the image
                                                                          and the magnifying glass, but IE 6 just shows the 'alt' attributes,
                                                                          which means nothing for the image and "größeres Bild" for the glass.

                                                                          (There are many more glitches in IE 6 on this site, but I'm working on a
                                                                          modified layout to fix at least some of them.)

                                                                          Micha
                                                                          • 34. Re: OT Murray
                                                                            Level 7
                                                                            On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:03:15 +0100, Michael Fesser <netizen@gmx.de> wrote:

                                                                            >Try the image at the end of this page:
                                                                            >
                                                                            > http://tsc.andreas-pauli.de/kjs/historie_schule

                                                                            What I wanted to experiment with was simply having a title and alt
                                                                            attributes on an image. While your example is illustrating a bit of an
                                                                            anomaly, having a title on the surrounding link could be getting in the
                                                                            way of really diagnosing the problem.

                                                                            What I want to try is simply an image with different title and alt
                                                                            attributes (and no link) to see what displays.

                                                                            Gary
                                                                            • 35. Re: OT Murray
                                                                              Level 7
                                                                              .oO(Gary White)

                                                                              >On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:03:15 +0100, Michael Fesser <netizen@gmx.de> wrote:
                                                                              >
                                                                              >>Try the image at the end of this page:
                                                                              >>
                                                                              >> http://tsc.andreas-pauli.de/kjs/historie_schule
                                                                              >
                                                                              >What I wanted to experiment with was simply having a title and alt
                                                                              >attributes on an image. While your example is illustrating a bit of an
                                                                              >anomaly, having a title on the surrounding link could be getting in the
                                                                              >way of really diagnosing the problem.
                                                                              >
                                                                              >What I want to try is simply an image with different title and alt
                                                                              >attributes (and no link) to see what displays.

                                                                              OK, understood.

                                                                              Micha
                                                                              • 36. Re: OT Murray
                                                                                Level 7
                                                                                Exactly the problem I am trying to solve.

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                                                                                "Michael Fesser" <netizen@gmx.de> wrote in message
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                                                                                > .oO(Gary White)
                                                                                >
                                                                                >>On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:13:04 -0500, "Murray *ACE*"
                                                                                >><forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote:
                                                                                >>
                                                                                >>>Thanks, Dave! It's still not quite right, but at least you get the
                                                                                >>>mouseover effect in IE. This exercise exposed a very interesting glitch.
                                                                                >>>With IE, if you have a link with a title around an image with an alt
                                                                                >>>attribute, the alt attribute prevents the title from appearing - see
                                                                                >>> http://murraytestsite.com/title-vs-alt.html for an example. To my
                                                                                >>>knowledge, this has not been previously described, although I don't have
                                                                                >>>very good search phrases to try to find this.
                                                                                >>
                                                                                >>One interesting caveat is that, if the image actually exists, you don't
                                                                                >>have that problem. It only seems to do it when you have a missing image.
                                                                                >>At least that's what a quick test revealed to me.
                                                                                >
                                                                                > I also have the same problem with existing images. In my galleries the
                                                                                > titles are on the links. This is required by the Litebox script which I
                                                                                > use in my galleries (and which I didn't modify yet to get the captions
                                                                                > from the images instead). The thumbnail images themselves don't have a
                                                                                > title and just empty alt attributes. Result in IE 6: no tooltip at all.
                                                                                >
                                                                                > Micha

                                                                                • 37. Re: OT Murray
                                                                                  Paevo Kelley Level 2
                                                                                  The banner needs animation; make that globe spin round and round!
                                                                                  • 38. Re: OT Murray
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                                                                                    Bah!

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                                                                                    "Paevo Kelley" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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                                                                                    > The banner needs animation; make that globe spin round and round!

                                                                                    • 39. Re: OT Murray
                                                                                      Level 7
                                                                                      On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:03:15 +0100, Michael Fesser <netizen@gmx.de> wrote:

                                                                                      >It has a caption "Foto aus dem Jahr 2004" and also uses the same text in
                                                                                      >the title attribute as a feed for Litebox. Just hover your mouse over
                                                                                      >it. In modern browsers you'll get the correct tooltips on both the image
                                                                                      >and the magnifying glass, but IE 6 just shows the 'alt' attributes,
                                                                                      >which means nothing for the image and "größeres Bild" for the glass.

                                                                                      In your code, you have this.

                                                                                      Large image:
                                                                                      <a ... title='Foto aus dem Jahr 2004'>
                                                                                      <img ... alt=''>
                                                                                      </a>
                                                                                      Magnifying glass:
                                                                                      <a ... title='Foto aus dem Jahr 2004'>
                                                                                      <img ... alt='größeres Bild'>
                                                                                      </a>

                                                                                      IE6 & IE7 are showing the alt attribute for the img in the magnifying
                                                                                      glass and no tooltip at all for the larger one. IOW, they are giving
                                                                                      preference to the innermost tag, which is the <img>. Other browsers are
                                                                                      simply displaying the title attribute of the <a> tag.

                                                                                      When both title and alt are specified on an <img> tag, IE displays the
                                                                                      title attribute: http://tsc.andreas-pauli.de/kjs/historie_schule

                                                                                      Gary
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