17 Replies Latest reply on Oct 19, 2009 10:50 AM by TCAatAJP

    PDF eBooks not secure

      Although Acrobat allows all authors to restrict printing, etc. WITHIN Adobe's Reader/Acrobat programs, it cannot prevent users from copying the file hundreds of times for people/users around the world. Essentially, no pdf eBook restricts pirate copying. The web allows instantaneous transmission of eBook files without cost or policing. Although Adobe is well aware of pdf limitations, they continue to promote the development of pdf eBooks. I ask: "For whom" and "At what cost to the developer/author"? Adobe hasn't any interest in developing even the most basic of anti-copy software for it's pdfs. Frankly, unless you plan to make over $10,000 writing a book (so you can afford the copy protection services), don't bother using a pdf format!
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          Thanks for the post. This is valuable information for us illiterate people who want to write anyway!
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            If people are copying your book, you can rest assured your books are already selling 10 000 copies...

             

             

            Open your mind!
            • 3. Re: PDF eBooks not secure
              So...how do you turn a PDF into an eBook? What is the difference? And is anyone aware of a way to make the PDF/eBook turn pages. Like pagegangster or Virtual paper?
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                TCAatAJP

                Does anyone have links to how can a very small company afford to secure a emagazine with a small subscription base when compared to large companies? I don't want our magazines to be "open" to piracy with the current PDF lack of security.

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                  raneeq

                  I don't agree with you. Although the restriction of preventing other from copying can be cracked easily. But it works sometimes. And we use pdf for better viewing effect of readers.

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                    TimMcqueen

                    You can use pdf drm packages. Some of them will apply charges per user, service annual subcribtions charges or Lifetime services.

                     

                    Protectedpdf

                    Fileopen

                    DRM-x

                    Armjisoft

                    Drumlin

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                      TCAatAJP Level 1

                      Simple Password protection isn't the issue. Cracking programs are available, but that aside, what I'm looking to prevent is friends passing their password on to buddies so buddies can get a freebee. One's living is at stake here. This is not for hobbiests.

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                        Pipers Parlor

                        I think several are missing the real issue. I use Linux for pretty much everything. There is an option to print to .pdf, it is also available in Open Office. All I have to do is open a secured .pdf, then print it out. However when the print dialogue comes up I tell it to print to file and specify the file as .pdf.

                         

                        There you have it. A FULLY "cracked" copy. I don't think the issue is with adobe, I think it is with the .pdf format.

                         

                        Sincerely,

                        Jim

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                          Sir-PP

                          Thanks for the NICE post. This is valuable data for me and some people who want to write anyway!

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                            boatwake

                            Well, that is a pin in the balloon, for chrissakes.  I just spent all this time formatting four books I wrote to be Ebooks and make a million bucks.  So I was all ready to get the turnkey web op to charge for downloads, only to discover that the "secure" pdf's and pdf a's can be plucked out of a site with one program (which turns out to be a spyware program itself) and reversed online for free using convertpdf.net back into a word file, and strip any security settings in Word.  So then the "copywrited" material can be copied, changed, trashed, etc.

                             

                            Anybody have an opinion about LockLizard, or any other encrypting program that claims to zip it all up into an impregnable fortress?

                             

                            Thanks

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                              rony1434

                              Hello

                              Thanks for such a valueable information.

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                                TCAatAJP Level 1

                                We've been looking into LockLizard and although they have an impressive customer base, their clients must have deep pockets to afford the rates. Unless you have quite a few items to turn into ebooks and emagazines, your profits will non existent - in the red, possibly - once you deduct the cost of the product fee(s).

                                 

                                You might want to get together with a group of people and buy their perpetual license (one time fee) as opposed to a yearly fee, and do all the magazines through one person - a coop, I guess is what I have in mind.

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                                  Funnyvoyage

                                  Thanks for your imformative tips. They are all helpful.

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                                    ZofiaLopp

                                    ebook just basically means a book in electronic format, and pdf enables the user to distribute the book in that format.

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                                      ermphd

                                      Let's think a little out of the box, folks. What makes you all think that simple page turner eBooks are going to make anyone real cash?

                                       

                                      Hint, Acrobat 9 allows .swfs to play inside the .pdfs. A Captivate movie (which is a .swf) can be set to have an expiration date when produced.

                                       

                                      So, make ebooks with attractive interactive content THAT GOES BYE BYE at a date certain. Want the interactive content? then go to the link provided and buy the eBook. A little clever organization, can make the eBooks much less attractive without the intereactive content. Lots of .swf wigets!

                                       

                                      That way the copiers will simplly virally market your content for you!

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                                        ermphd Level 1

                                        Let's think a little out of the box, folks. What makes you all think that simple page turner eBooks are going to make anyone real cash?

                                         

                                        Hint, Acrobat 9 allows .swfs to play inside the .pdfs. A Captivate movie (which is a .swf) can be set to have an expiration date when produced.

                                         

                                        So, make ebooks with attractive interactive content THAT GOES BYE BYE at a date certain. Want the interactive content? then go to the link provided and buy the eBook. A little clever organization, can make the eBooks much less attractive without the intereactive content. Lots of .swf wigets!

                                         

                                        That way the copiers will simplly virally market your content for you!

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                                          TCAatAJP Level 1

                                          I'm not entirely sure what page turning has to do with security of one's electronic assets, although a pretty utility.

                                          Captivate movie and interactive content, I'm sure is a fun thing to add and can also add pizzazz, but in my mind, has little to do with protection of assets, which is the topic of this thread.

                                           

                                          The initial topic is about securing electronic assets to prevent passing magazines and books off to others for free or to have someone able to copy text from a PDF to another program and using it in their own, so easily. A time-based expiration date does in no way protect from pirates and the "freebees."

                                           

                                          Our clients would not tolerate purchasing (we do non-fiction historical publications) a time-sensitive document.

                                           

                                          "That way the copiers will simplly virally market your content for you!" for free?" is, no doubt, great for some markets, but neither for those seeking to make a living from the SALE and PROTECTION of said electronic asset; nor appropriate.

                                           

                                          Your "out of the box" thought is good for another kind of e-books, but not for this particular thread.