9 Replies Latest reply on Oct 24, 2006 4:15 AM by Newsgroup_User

    What's wrong with my paragraphs?

    Level 7
      Check out my site at www.verticalterrain.com

      Go to the About Us and Privacy Policy Sections of the site and you will
      notice that the text seems to just disappear behind the gray column on the
      right... What is up with this? I can't figure out what it's doing this for
      the life of me.

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      Chris Jumonville
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        • 1. Re: What's wrong with my paragraphs?
          Level 7
          Try taking out the width=100% on the table where you've got the class
          .main-table

          Have you thought about learning CSS so you can build tableless layouts?

          What you've got there could be really streamlined.



          Chris Jumonville wrote:
          > Check out my site at www.verticalterrain.com
          >
          > Go to the About Us and Privacy Policy Sections of the site and you will
          > notice that the text seems to just disappear behind the gray column on the
          > right... What is up with this? I can't figure out what it's doing this for
          > the life of me.
          >
          • 2. Re: What's wrong with my paragraphs?
            Level 7
            I'm still learning CSS actually... Is there a good book or article or site
            that would help me learn more?

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            "Vix" <user@example.net> wrote in message
            news:ehkl18$ehk$1@forums.macromedia.com...
            > Try taking out the width=100% on the table where you've got the class
            > .main-table
            >
            > Have you thought about learning CSS so you can build tableless layouts?
            >
            > What you've got there could be really streamlined.
            >
            >
            >
            > Chris Jumonville wrote:
            >> Check out my site at www.verticalterrain.com
            >>
            >> Go to the About Us and Privacy Policy Sections of the site and you will
            >> notice that the text seems to just disappear behind the gray column on
            >> the right... What is up with this? I can't figure out what it's doing
            >> this for the life of me.
            >>


            • 3. Re: What's wrong with my paragraphs?
              Level 7
              I tried taking the table widths off and it worked wonderfully... Anyhow I
              had another question... What would be the advantage to building a tabeless
              site using mostly just CSS?

              --
              Best Regards,

              Chris Jumonville
              iMedia Web Design
              503.277.3553
              "Vix" <user@example.net> wrote in message
              news:ehkl18$ehk$1@forums.macromedia.com...
              > Try taking out the width=100% on the table where you've got the class
              > .main-table
              >
              > Have you thought about learning CSS so you can build tableless layouts?
              >
              > What you've got there could be really streamlined.
              >
              >
              >
              > Chris Jumonville wrote:
              >> Check out my site at www.verticalterrain.com
              >>
              >> Go to the About Us and Privacy Policy Sections of the site and you will
              >> notice that the text seems to just disappear behind the gray column on
              >> the right... What is up with this? I can't figure out what it's doing
              >> this for the life of me.
              >>


              • 4. Re: What's wrong with my paragraphs?
                Level 7
                http://www.sitepoint.com/books/css2/

                this book is worth a read,

                they are times thought when it makes more sense to use a table rather then
                a pile of divs for a specific area of a page thought.



                "Chris Jumonville" <verticalterrain@yahoo.com> wrote in message
                news:ehkm7d$fra$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                >I tried taking the table widths off and it worked wonderfully... Anyhow I
                >had another question... What would be the advantage to building a tabeless
                >site using mostly just CSS?
                >
                > --
                > Best Regards,
                >
                > Chris Jumonville
                > iMedia Web Design
                > 503.277.3553
                > "Vix" <user@example.net> wrote in message
                > news:ehkl18$ehk$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                >> Try taking out the width=100% on the table where you've got the class
                >> .main-table
                >>
                >> Have you thought about learning CSS so you can build tableless layouts?
                >>
                >> What you've got there could be really streamlined.
                >>
                >>
                >>
                >> Chris Jumonville wrote:
                >>> Check out my site at www.verticalterrain.com
                >>>
                >>> Go to the About Us and Privacy Policy Sections of the site and you will
                >>> notice that the text seems to just disappear behind the gray column on
                >>> the right... What is up with this? I can't figure out what it's doing
                >>> this for the life of me.
                >>>
                >
                >


                • 5. Re: What's wrong with my paragraphs?
                  Level 7
                  I've not got a copy myself, but I've heard lots of good things about
                  this e-book.

                  http://www.projectseven.com/products/templates/designpacks/42nd_street/index.htm

                  I also love Bulletproof Design with XHTML & CSS by Dan Cederholm, which
                  I'd recommend once you've got the basics under your belt.

                  If you look at the code of your current site, it looks quite complicated
                  doesn't it? There's lots of code for search engines robots to wade
                  through, it's doesn't help with accessibility, increases the file size
                  of the page.

                  Using CSS to create a tableless design will enable you to separate the
                  design from the content. It's better for search engines and
                  accessibility. It'll also give you the extend the site for different
                  media. With additional style sheets you can redesign the whole page for
                  printing, or viewing on a mobile device and you wouldn't have to touch
                  the page itself.

                  I wouldn't say that it was easy to make the switch but worth the effort IMO.

                  Have a search on google - there are lots of articles which discuss the
                  value of tableless designs over using tables. e.g
                  http://davespicks.com/essays/notables.html and
                  http://www.webpronews.com/expertarticles/expertarticles/wpn-62-20060403CreatingTablelessSi tesWhyandSomeBasics.html

                  Vix

                  Chris Jumonville wrote:
                  > I tried taking the table widths off and it worked wonderfully... Anyhow I
                  > had another question... What would be the advantage to building a tabeless
                  > site using mostly just CSS?
                  >
                  • 6. Re: What's wrong with my paragraphs?
                    Level 7
                    I should also add that there will be times when you will need to use a
                    table to layout somethings. So don't stress about abandoning them
                    completely!

                    Vix wrote:
                    > I've not got a copy myself, but I've heard lots of good things about
                    > this e-book.
                    >
                    > http://www.projectseven.com/products/templates/designpacks/42nd_street/index.htm
                    >
                    >
                    > I also love Bulletproof Design with XHTML & CSS by Dan Cederholm, which
                    > I'd recommend once you've got the basics under your belt.
                    >
                    > If you look at the code of your current site, it looks quite complicated
                    > doesn't it? There's lots of code for search engines robots to wade
                    > through, it's doesn't help with accessibility, increases the file size
                    > of the page.
                    >
                    > Using CSS to create a tableless design will enable you to separate the
                    > design from the content. It's better for search engines and
                    > accessibility. It'll also give you the extend the site for different
                    > media. With additional style sheets you can redesign the whole page for
                    > printing, or viewing on a mobile device and you wouldn't have to touch
                    > the page itself.
                    >
                    > I wouldn't say that it was easy to make the switch but worth the effort
                    > IMO.
                    >
                    > Have a search on google - there are lots of articles which discuss the
                    > value of tableless designs over using tables. e.g
                    > http://davespicks.com/essays/notables.html and
                    > http://www.webpronews.com/expertarticles/expertarticles/wpn-62-20060403CreatingTablelessSi tesWhyandSomeBasics.html
                    >
                    >
                    > Vix
                    >
                    > Chris Jumonville wrote:
                    >
                    >> I tried taking the table widths off and it worked wonderfully...
                    >> Anyhow I had another question... What would be the advantage to
                    >> building a tabeless site using mostly just CSS?
                    >>
                    • 7. Re: What's wrong with my paragraphs?
                      Level 7
                      I'll check out those books for certain. The page you see on my site is far
                      from done anyways. It looks jumbled as hell with the code and when I do
                      finally end up finishing it you can rest assured it won't be nearly as bad.
                      I'm checking out some articles online right now on adobe.com for tabeless
                      CSS design. It's obviously completley different than using tables so I'm
                      going to totally have to learn from the ground up but from what I'm
                      understanding it could be helpful in building alot of future sites!

                      --
                      Best Regards,

                      Chris Jumonville
                      iMedia Web Design
                      503.277.3553
                      "Vix" <user@example.net> wrote in message
                      news:ehknd6$gvd$2@forums.macromedia.com...
                      >I should also add that there will be times when you will need to use a
                      >table to layout somethings. So don't stress about abandoning them
                      >completely!
                      >
                      > Vix wrote:
                      >> I've not got a copy myself, but I've heard lots of good things about this
                      >> e-book.
                      >>
                      >> http://www.projectseven.com/products/templates/designpacks/42nd_street/index.htm I
                      >> also love Bulletproof Design with XHTML & CSS by Dan Cederholm, which I'd
                      >> recommend once you've got the basics under your belt.
                      >>
                      >> If you look at the code of your current site, it looks quite complicated
                      >> doesn't it? There's lots of code for search engines robots to wade
                      >> through, it's doesn't help with accessibility, increases the file size of
                      >> the page.
                      >>
                      >> Using CSS to create a tableless design will enable you to separate the
                      >> design from the content. It's better for search engines and
                      >> accessibility. It'll also give you the extend the site for different
                      >> media. With additional style sheets you can redesign the whole page for
                      >> printing, or viewing on a mobile device and you wouldn't have to touch
                      >> the page itself.
                      >>
                      >> I wouldn't say that it was easy to make the switch but worth the effort
                      >> IMO.
                      >>
                      >> Have a search on google - there are lots of articles which discuss the
                      >> value of tableless designs over using tables. e.g
                      >> http://davespicks.com/essays/notables.html and
                      >> http://www.webpronews.com/expertarticles/expertarticles/wpn-62-20060403CreatingTablelessSi tesWhyandSomeBasics.html
                      >> Vix
                      >>
                      >> Chris Jumonville wrote:
                      >>
                      >>> I tried taking the table widths off and it worked wonderfully... Anyhow
                      >>> I had another question... What would be the advantage to building a
                      >>> tabeless site using mostly just CSS?
                      >>>


                      • 8. Re: What's wrong with my paragraphs?
                        Level 7
                        http://www.projectseven.com/tutorials/css/qdmacfly/index.htm
                        http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/dreamweaver/css.html
                        http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/dreamweaver/articles/tableless_layout_dw8.html
                        http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/dreamweaver/articles/css_concepts.html


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                        "Vix" <user@example.net> wrote in message
                        news:ehkn7i$gvd$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                        > I've not got a copy myself, but I've heard lots of good things about this
                        > e-book.
                        >
                        > http://www.projectseven.com/products/templates/designpacks/42nd_street/index.htm
                        >
                        > I also love Bulletproof Design with XHTML & CSS by Dan Cederholm, which
                        > I'd recommend once you've got the basics under your belt.
                        >
                        > If you look at the code of your current site, it looks quite complicated
                        > doesn't it? There's lots of code for search engines robots to wade
                        > through, it's doesn't help with accessibility, increases the file size of
                        > the page.
                        >
                        > Using CSS to create a tableless design will enable you to separate the
                        > design from the content. It's better for search engines and accessibility.
                        > It'll also give you the extend the site for different media. With
                        > additional style sheets you can redesign the whole page for printing, or
                        > viewing on a mobile device and you wouldn't have to touch the page itself.
                        >
                        > I wouldn't say that it was easy to make the switch but worth the effort
                        > IMO.
                        >
                        > Have a search on google - there are lots of articles which discuss the
                        > value of tableless designs over using tables. e.g
                        > http://davespicks.com/essays/notables.html and
                        > http://www.webpronews.com/expertarticles/expertarticles/wpn-62-20060403CreatingTablelessSi tesWhyandSomeBasics.html
                        >
                        > Vix
                        >
                        > Chris Jumonville wrote:
                        >> I tried taking the table widths off and it worked wonderfully... Anyhow
                        >> I had another question... What would be the advantage to building a
                        >> tabeless site using mostly just CSS?
                        >>


                        • 9. Re: What's wrong with my paragraphs?
                          Level 7
                          this site is also helpful: http://css.maxdesign.com.au/index.htm

                          Chris Jumonville wrote:
                          > I'll check out those books for certain. The page you see on my site is far
                          > from done anyways. It looks jumbled as hell with the code and when I do
                          > finally end up finishing it you can rest assured it won't be nearly as bad.
                          > I'm checking out some articles online right now on adobe.com for tabeless
                          > CSS design. It's obviously completley different than using tables so I'm
                          > going to totally have to learn from the ground up but from what I'm
                          > understanding it could be helpful in building alot of future sites!
                          >