15 Replies Latest reply: Feb 5, 2009 5:06 PM by MuggeGHQ RSS

    Adobe Camera Raw caches location

    MuggeGHQ Community Member
      Hi.

      I just read somewhere that the default adobe camera raw cache location should be kept as default !

      I ask because i have moved the Camera Raw Cache folder location from its default "user/library/caches/Adobe camera raw" to another place.
      I made a Raw cache folder on a second harddrive (internal) and then chanced the preferences in Bridge CS4 under cache settings.
      There are 2 places in Bridge CS4 you have to set the location.
      Camera Raw-preferences & preferences/cache.

      I did that and everything is working right on my Macbook pro 2.5Ghz Penryn early 08, OS X 10.5.6 Danish.

      Should i be worried ? does it need to be at default place, and why would there be a settings if it coulden be safely moved to another location ?

      Erik S
        • 1. Re: Adobe Camera Raw caches location
          Ramón G Castañeda Community Member
          Erik,

          My experience is that bad things happen if you change the default location of anything related to Adobe, especially starting with CS3 and now in CS4.

          Why Adobe gives the user a choice is simply incomprehensible. Even when initially installing CS4, you are presented with a choice to change the location of the installation. However, installing it anywhere other than the default application creates havoc with CS4.

          Again, I can't explain why Adobe provides the means to do damage to your software when they at the same time tell you to respect the default installation locations. It's a puzzlement, indeed.
          • 2. Re: Adobe Camera Raw caches location
            Omke Oudeman Community Member
            As long as you use the preferences for changing location you might be OK, if you start to drag and drop folders you are certainly not.

            That said, I think that the info Ramón gave you is plenty enough reason to not change the original settings

            Also I don't see the benefit of changing location other then to a separate HD for saving disk space but then there is communication between two disks needed to read or write the info and that is to my knowledge not faster then operating on the same disk. Therefor a bigger disk and a separate disk to assign as scratch would be a better option :-)
            • 3. Re: Adobe Camera Raw caches location
              MuggeGHQ Community Member
              Ok.. i see.

              I also used the other location for installing. I have a folder called "Photo-applications" on my drive. So i told Adobe CS4 installer to install it there. Not the default place !
              And also changed the default location for Adobe Camera Raw cache.

              Never had any problems on my Macbook Pro, and actually never on my 2 Mac Pro.
              BUT. I did start to have some problems on one of my Mac Pro lately ???

              I just tried to reset Photoshop CS4. The key combination when you start PS. To delete the preferences.

              Some stuff went back to default but not the location of Camera Raw cache folder.
              It was still at the place where i told it the first time ???

              How can i reset it so the Adobe Camera Raw cache location also goes back to default ?
              • 4. Re: Adobe Camera Raw caches location
                Omke Oudeman Community Member
                I would say that you use the preferences for that again. The default path is user/library/cache and then Adobe Camera Raw for ACR cache files and Adobe/BridgeCS4/cache for Bridge cache.

                If you keep in trouble you might want to use the Adobe Uninstaller and re install the application from scratch. There should be no need for deactivating PS first because you stay on the same computer but to be sure you better first deactivate and after re install activate again.

                Be also sure to make a back up from your actions and other preferences settings for templates and brushes etc.

                Maybe Ramón can help you with his boilerplate of the locations where to find these settings :-)
                • 5. Re: Adobe Camera Raw caches location
                  Ramón G Castañeda Community Member
                  > I have a folder called "Photo-applications" on my drive. So i told Adobe CS4 installer to install it there. Not the default place !

                  That will definitely, absolutely and inevitably cause you grief.

                  The application itself will have trouble finding certain files, like filters, the updater will not find the files to updates, third-party plug-ins will also fail to update or won't be found at all, and to top it all off, the Adobe Uninstaller will not be able to find it.

                  That is a very, very bad move.

                  If someone gave me a machine with your file structure, I would first try the uninstaller, if it doesn't work properly (and it will definitely not work correctly), I would then uninstall things manually, search for the CS4Clean Script (hope it has been released by now) and run it. Then Repair Permissions, re-install CS4 from scratch in the default location, and Repair Permissions once more.

                  Creating folders and subfolders (such as your Photo applications) in a misguided attempt to "organize things" is a disastrous move and a terrible idea.

                  Use aliases to organize things in folders, that's what aliases are there for, and leave the default installation structure alone.

                  You are in for a long struggle to undo the damage you have done. :/
                  • 6. Re: Adobe Camera Raw caches location
                    MuggeGHQ Community Member
                    Actually i have done this since the first day i started to use Adobe Photoshop started with 6, 7, CS, CS2, CS3 & now CS4 with no issues.
                    As i said. I have done this all the way trough all suites and never had a single issue with plugins, filters, actions, scripts, updates, uninstaller etc. etc.
                    Infact all photo related applications i use i place in the Photo application folder i made my self. Adobe Suite CS3, CS4, other Adobe apps, QuarkXpress 8, Aperture, Adobe Lightroom 2, Capture One PRO, LightZone, Photo Mechanic, Noise Ninja 2.x and more and i dont have any problems what so ever !
                    BUT, i use the installer to place the apps ofcause. I dont move them after, that would be crazy sure enough.
                    I also do this with all maintenance applications i use. I have a folder called maintenance.
                    Cocktail, Leopard Cache Cleaner, SuperDuper!, File Buddy 9, DiskWarrior, TechTool Pro 5, Data Rescue II, Hardware Monitor, more, more, more also without problems.
                    So i dont really know why i should stop doing this now since i have done it from first OS 10.x

                    I am sure if people move folders around after it is installed, it will be a big mess. But i always install the apps with the installer to the right locations i want.. No problem.

                    Its not because i dont trust what your saying, and it would maybe run better on your system that way. But i have never had a single problem with the way i do it.

                    Just for information :-)
                    • 7. Re: Adobe Camera Raw caches location
                      Ramón G Castañeda Community Member
                      Erik,

                      I won't even read your whole post.

                      It's irrelevant what your experience has been in the past. Starting with CS3, you must respect the default install location. No ifs or buts.

                      I'll skip your posts from now on, as I am unable to offer any assistance to you in this situation.

                      Good luck.
                      • 8. Re: Adobe Camera Raw caches location
                        MuggeGHQ Community Member
                        Ramón No. please.

                        I do respect what your saying. I was just wondering why my system was running smoothly when all this you say i did wrong.

                        You say it started to be more important with CS3 and now CS4.
                        Can you tell me why the installer have the option to install the Suite another place than the default application folder ?
                        I'm just curios really. If i wasn't i woulden learn would i :)

                        Thats really why i started to install the Suite to another place. Because the option was there.
                        • 9. Re: Adobe Camera Raw caches location
                          Ramón G Castañeda Community Member
                          Erik,
                          >Can you tell me why the installer have the option to install the Suite another place than the default application folder ?

                          No. I already said that in post #1.

                          Why Adobe gives the user a choice is simply incomprehensible. Even when initially installing CS4, you are presented with a choice to change the location of the installation.

                          It was downright stupid of Adobe to offer a choice, especially when Adobe's own installers, uninstallers, updaters and filters cannot find the application if you choose a different install location.

                          We are not Adobe. I am not here to explain why Adobe does anything, nor to apologize for Adobe.

                          The one thing I can tell you is that you will have problems, and the problems will only increase down the road. I fully expect you to keep coming back to the forums for help in the future, but I won't be able to offer any assistance given your broken installation.
                          • 10. Re: Adobe Camera Raw caches location
                            Ramón G Castañeda Community Member
                            >I was just wondering why my system was running smoothly when all this you say i did wrong.

                            If everything is running smoothly, how come you have made so many posts in these two forums?

                            (Do a forum search on your name)
                            • 11. Re: Adobe Camera Raw caches location
                              Ramón G Castañeda Community Member
                              Maybe this piece of information will help bring things into perspective:

                              The people that develop the installer applications for Adobe have nothing to do with the Photoshop team.

                              In fact the Principal Adobe Photoshop Program Manager has publicly admitted on his blog that "the installer is a huge embarrassment for us", and in private communications he has had some choice words for the guys responsible for the installer and the updaters and what he would like to do to them.
                              • 12. Re: Adobe Camera Raw caches location
                                MuggeGHQ Community Member
                                Cool Ramón.

                                The first thing i will try if my new clone starts behaving funny again is to uninstall everything and re-install at default location.
                                I guess there is a point why your saying this is important. Experience :)

                                If i cant uninstall CS3 & CS 4 without problems because i installed in a non default place is to start from scratch.
                                Format HD and install 10.5.6 and both Suites from scratch..

                                I really do appreciate your time and help.. I mean it even that you think i disrespect your opinion.
                                • 13. Re: Adobe Camera Raw caches location
                                  MuggeGHQ Community Member
                                  (11)

                                  Ramón.

                                  Thanks for clarifying this about Adobe installer. That is news to me.
                                  So i see a problem could start when installing it to anything else than default location.
                                  I mean, all other applications always installs in the default application folder on your HD, its just me that sometimes change the final location.

                                  And yes. If the installer dosent make a log file so it can locate everything if you need to uninstall it some day. You will be in trouble.
                                  It will look for stuff the default place and not spread around the HD. I understand that.

                                  But Ramón, tell me. Do you know if applications like Adobe and others, makes a installer log file so it knows where to look if a uninstallation is needed ?
                                  • 14. Re: Adobe Camera Raw caches location
                                    Ramón G Castañeda Community Member
                                    > I mean it even that you think i disrespect your opinion.

                                    Never gave that a thought. It's Adobe's fault ultimately.
                                    • 15. Re: Adobe Camera Raw caches location
                                      MuggeGHQ Community Member
                                      True :)