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A JPEG is a JPEG is a JPEG. There's no such thing as a special "Photoshop JPEG" format.
Jordan, where exactly do you see this "adobe photoshop jpegs"?
I'm not sure if that is really the case. There do seem to be variations in the way different programs write JEPG's. And as I recall from from a conversation with one of the engineers, Photoshop does have it's own flavor... But I must confess that I can't remember what the differences are... In practical terms, it probably doesn't make much difference since they are (for the most part) universally compatible despite the variations.
If you do a "get info" in OSX, that's where you can see the label: Adobe Photoshop JEPG File
To answer your question, I don't know of any way to create (or modify) a JEPG within Photoshop and not have it tagged that way. Even "save for web" tags it. I'm curious what programs you've had problems reading the files with?
In the "old days..." I occasionally had issues with JEPG's breaking when they were uploaded to websites. That was usually solved by making sure they uploaded as "binaries." Sorry I can't offer more in the way of a solution.
>I'm not sure if that is really the case.
>If you do a "get info" in OSX, that's where you can see the label: Adobe Photoshop JEPG File
That's just telling you the document is a JPEG which was created or saved by Photoshop, NOT that it's a Photoshop-variety of JPEG.
Ramón is right. It's just metadata, like the author, copyright, etc. Nothing to do with the image itself.
> A JPEG is a JPEG is a JPEG. There's no such thing as a special "Photoshop JPEG" format
Besides the image data, JPEG files also contain a header containing information about the file in the exif section, which is fairly well standardized. The JPEG specification also allows custom data segments for storage of additional information and Photoshop uses some of these, which makes a JPEG stored by Photoshop different from other JPEGs. For more information see drewnoakes web site for more information.
Most JPEG viewers ignore this information, but the information can viewed using the FileInfo facility of Photoshop. For example a file created in Camera Raw contains detailed information about the ACR settings.
hey Jordan..i'm using cs2 and i'm having the same problem. the only thing I know is photoshop 7 doesn't do this. when I find out more , i'll let you know. and if you beat me to it, can you post a message? thanks wai-keel
> the only thing I know is photoshop 7 doesn't do this. [...]
Doesn't do what? No one has yet stated what the problem is(?) Is it a problem with another software not opening PS-CS3 JPEG'd images? What?
the problem is when I try to upload jpegs on certain websites it says it doesn't recognize or support this format. When I was using photoshop 7, I didn't have this problem.
Those "certain" websites aren't reading the metadata info inside the file, they're reacting to something you're doing or not doing in the file name or file format.
Are you using a normal .jpg extension in your file naming, not including spaces in the file name, and ideally using an 8.3 naming convention? What platform are you running?
There is definitely something you are doing incorrectly. I have never had difficulty uploading JPEG images that were created with either Photoshop CS2 or CS3. Are you using the standard JPEG option, or are you using JPEG2000?
yeah, i'm using the standard jpeg. that's the only opton I have. It's really weird. Like I said before, photoshop 7 didn't have this problem. I'm using a mac and when I look up the info on the jpeg it says adobe photoshop jpeg. in photoshop 7 it just say jpeg. ?????????
>in photoshop 7 it just say jpeg.
Makes no difference whatsoever. They're the same thing.
Hey Jordan ..I think I figured it out. If you're using a mac, go to "get info" and then towards the bottom go ton "open with". Use the option "Save as JPEG medium.exe(9.0). This might fix your problem.
What applications are having probjems with your JPEGs. It might be that these can not read the JPEG header properly and are rejecting it. There are filters which remove the header information, such as JPEG Extra
That said, Photoshop is a widely used application that most likely conforms to industry standards. Using versions of PS up to PSCS3 I've never had a problem with its JPEGs.
I say again:
Are you saving with a .jpg extension and using lowest common denominator (not Mac) file naming conventions?
> the problem is when I try to upload jpegs on certain websites it says it doesn't recognize or support this format.
You should be able to upload JPEGs to any internet area. Websites do NOT have to support them, they are instead supported by web browsers, and no browser has any problem with a PS (whatever version) JPEG. I'd say your problem is either with something you've missed while saving the file, or with your website service. Leastwise, what your problem implies just doesn't make sense(?)
Hmmmm(?) ... does your website service somehow cater to presenting your photographs as a gallery and having requirements for extracting metadata? I suppose some utilities for extracting metadata might be upset with new metadata formats in CS3 saved JPEGs. But this would still be considered a problem for your web service to remedy. Unless you can point to a specific error in JPEG metadata, your web service needs to catch up. In any case, have you asked them what the problem is?
EDIT: You should somehow post examples for us.
OKAY.. I did some research. A lot of applications just don't support or recognize jpegs from the new versions of Photoshop. There is however a solution. You can buy some software the will fix this problem. I forgot the names, but if you look up jpegs in the "Photoshop CS2 Bible" it will give you a list of software.
> I did some research. A lot of applications just don't support or recognize jpegs from the new versions of Photoshop. There is however a solution. [...]
Hmmm(?) Research, but no references ... not exactly helpful. Maybe someone with the "PSCS2 Bible" can shed some light(?) That is, what could be the problem if web browsers will open the JPEG?
Edit: That is, it would have been easy to suggest that we all batch convert our TIFs to JPEGs with Irfanview, but I never considered that a real solution.
It seems to me that there is still something else going on here. I have never experienced difficulties uploading JPEG images.
I'm having the same uploading problems.
I did something simple, I just took an image off my digital camera and scaled it down in CS3 to upload onto my MySpace page.
- I saved for Web and Devices as a jpeg onto my desktop. Much like I would have in CS2.
- This specific file pops up on the desktop as rikshaw.jpg but unlike my other .jpg's on the desktop it default opens in Adobe Photoshop, all my other .jpg files open with preview. (which was the case with CS2 when i saved .jpg's they didn't open in photoshop by default).
- I tried to upload this alleged .jpg on MySpace and I get the error "A file you selected is not supported and has been removed"
- I sent the file to myself via e-mail (gmail) and previewd the file then saved the file from the web to the desktop and it's a real .jpg again and I can upload it to photobucket, myspace, imageshack, whatev and it opens in preview...
- The question I ask now is how can I save a .jpg file in CS3 without the Adobe Photoshop JPEG description in the Metadata because it seems like it DOES make a difference in uploading onto the web.
This is not the first post complaining about "My Space". It appears the site and the webmaster are too dumb to know that a JPEG is a JPEG. Period.
Using "Save For Web" will strip ALL metadata, but the file association will remain. On a Mac, do a Get Info on the file icon in the Finder and set it to "Open With Preview."
I did some jpegs in PSCS3 going through Bridge to PS using the Image Processor action. Those were sent to five recipients, all on PCs, and only two could open them? I have to do some more enquiring to see what apps were used by association on the machines to see where the problem lies--but there is defnitely something going on, because jpegs saved from IDimager have been opened in the past on all five of those machines with no problem.
What settings are you using when you save the jpgs? Do you add an extention? Do you use interlaced, or other settings?
No settings other than what the default would be accessing PS from Bridge>Tools>Photoshop, Image Processor and then choosing jpeg. The images it converts from Raw settings in ACR 4 work fine on my machine but not on other PC owners that I email them to (about 40% can't open them). Those recipeints tell me that they have never before had jpegs that would not open by double clicking. Sent the same images via Photo Mechanic, and they all opened for them.
Afterthought: I really don't care much about this issue, so please don't do any extra delving for me, because it was just an experiment to see if there was any general substance, as opposed to individual machine quirks, to the OP's problem. There evidently is. I do so very few jpegs that it is no problem in practice for me. I'm sure the OP would like to find out what's going on, though.
Error a file you selected is not supported and was automatically removed.
Here is the problem, uploading photoshoped CS3 pictures to myspace from a mac.
Here is the fix.
1. photoshop your picture and save normally
2. right click on your picture and select get info
3. under open with: select preview from drop down list
4. reopen picture via preview and click file -> save
5. close preview and upload your picture normally
Found this thread after ahving exactly the same problem as Jordan. I surely would appreciate if I didn't have to do the 'get info' manipulation it would ne simpler if the batch in photoshop (CS3) was saving directly as a jpg with no relation to adobe. I haven't had a problem with web as yet but my problem is that since I used CS3, my jpg are way bigger files! The same images saved as jpg now can weight twice as much as when I saved them with CS2. Is there a trick I should know here? I used to always save as quality '12' as the files were small enough for web but now they're still too big even at '10'.... If anyone has some knowledge about this (as can't find anything in the help or in web).
Right... found what my problem was - and nothing to do with the 'jpg' vs 'adobe photoshop jpeg file' in the end. But just in case other people have had the same problem: by default photoshop saves previews of the image in the jpg file, increasing the total file size dramatically. This can be set off in the preferences / file handling.
I've also had the same annoying problem up loading edited jpeg files in photoshop CS (MAC) to myspace. Pictures up loaded straight from my camera & image capture have worked fine. Ive tried all your suggestions for the Photoshop edited jpgs but with the same Error a file you selected is not supported and was automatically removed blah blah. Ive uploaded edited pics and graphics before so it must be myspace which has gone crazy.
BUT!! I have just managed to upload them through phototuner.com you dont have to login or download it or anything like that just upload your already made problem myspace jpg from your desktop wait like a second and it will size it perfectly and then pop it back on your desktop with a number name then jpg extension e.g 3514.jpg. Dont know why the hell my photoshop jpg & preview jpgs didn't work but this has solved the problem finally for me. Its a fix for the moment until myspace sort it
Hope this helps
I had the same problem. This works:
Drop the jpeg into iphoto. Then drag the image from iphoto to the desktop. It makes a copy of the image with a generic jpeg marker instead of a photoshop jpeg marker. Weee. Upload to myspace.
BTW, if you don't have this problem, or it doesn't make sense to you, how about not responding. Reading through all the comments about how this is "impossible" all jpegs are generic, is pretty annoying.
>if you don't have this problem, or it doesn't make sense to you, how about not responding
Guess that applies to all of us who don't use "myspace". :D Personally, I've never even been there.
However, we all profit from all questions and answers, so I'll continue to post as I see fit. This is a direct response to your "how about not responding".
It might even be worthwhile to start a list of dumb webmasters and dumb sites that induce this problem. :D
shezilla - don't take it personally. This Ramón G Castañeda person seems to have a problem with anyone asking a question on these forums and seems to think that everyone should already know all the answers to everything, like him apparently.
He's adopted the same attitude in a thread I started:
And reading through the "advice" he's given on several other threads, it seems to be the case for all his responses.
God makes them and they join up on their own afterward. :D Birds of a feather
Some types just come to the forums itching for a fight. Sometimes they get it and then they whinge.
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Coming from someone who, in this very thread, has posted only sharp, blunt, rude and unhelpful answers, and then proceeds to call people dumb, your copying and pasting of the forum etiquette guidelines is very hypocritical indeed.
Ramón, I seriously suggest that you re-read what you have written, and then try and see why people (not just me) take umbrage with your responses.
If you think I have come here looking for a fight, then again, I implore you to not make judgements on people that you do not know, nor mistake someone's confusion with an issue as brashness.
A fight is the last thing I would want when I come to the forums. I would like to receive help, from friendly people in a friendly environment. Which is exactly why I am writing this. To ask you nicely to please change your attitude and to not adopt a condescending "holier-than-thou" attitude with those who do not know all the answers.
I replied in your other thread.
I tried most of the solutions proposed here with no success (uploading to MySpace).
What did finally work when I found it was clicking on "If you don't see the Upload Photo form above, click here" - which takes you to a more rudimentary upload page that has no problems with jpeg's (which are all the same of course ;)
This problem just appeared with the fancy new upload system MySpace introduced last month. I wonder if they read this forum, or if anyone here has taken the time to write to them about it...? (not me today - gotta get some sleep - posting the solution here was my good deed for the day :P