8 Replies Latest reply on Aug 3, 2007 4:32 PM by (Jeff_Schewe)

    Odd RAW behaviour

      PS Elements 5.0
      Camera Raw 4.1
      Core 2 Duo E6600
      Windows XP SP2
      2GB DDR2

      I have the Camera Raw 4.1 plugin and a Fuji S6000fd camera (RAF files).
      I noticed when I open an RAF file and then for example save it as a TIF or PNG the resolution is different from the RAF:

      My RAF files are: 4048x3036

      Files created when converted from RAF: 2848x2136

      2848x2136 is also the resolution my usual 6MP JPG files on the camera. How can I stop this from happening? It makes everything smaller and I'm trying to cut out a small portion already (the moon). I imagine this would affect the details. Once I click "open image" how can I check if the image I am editing is the same res that came from the camera?

      Thanks
      Jarrett
        • 1. Re: Odd RAW behaviour
          Ramón G Castañeda Level 4
          Look at the Info Readout underneath the image preview in the ACR dialog box. That Info Readout is actually a button (in Macromediaish clothing). Click on it to get the dialog box. <br /> <br /> If you see a minus sign (-) in the dropdown after "Size", your image will be reduced in size; a plus sign (+) means your image will be enlarged; no sign means the native raw size. <br /> <br />c <a href="http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1kZuy6SMKFy2GqR2dQibfooc6ZDyc" /></a> <img alt="Picture hosted by Pixentral" src="http://www.pixentral.com/hosted/1kZuy6SMKFy2GqR2dQibfooc6ZDyc_thumb.jpg" border="0" /> <br />c Click on the thumbnail
          • 2. Re: Odd RAW behaviour
            Level 1
            I see where you mean, but Elements doesn't have the Workflow Options, instead it's just a drop down that changes 8-bit/channel and 16-bit/channel.

            thanks :)
            • 3. Re: Odd RAW behaviour
              John_Cornicello_Photo Level 2
              I'm not familiar with this camera, but the DPReview site's spec list for this camera at http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Fujifilm/fuji_finepixs6000.asp says that it is a 6.1 megapixel camera with max resolution of 2848x2136.

              There is some mention about the Fuji software "spitting out" 12MP files in the review at http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilms6000fd/page7.asp.

              John
              • 4. Re: Odd RAW behaviour
                Level 1
                Thank you SO much for that link. I know it isn't a yes/no answer, but it gave me a lot of insight into what goes on with Fuji and ACR programs and the camera. It also recognized that Photoshop resizes the RAW image when you convert it too. I wonder why it does that?
                • 5. Re: Odd RAW behaviour
                  John_Cornicello_Photo Level 2
                  I don't think that Photoshop or Camera Raw are resizing the photo. It sounds like the camera puts out a 2848x2136 image and the Fuji software is resizing that up. But I don't really know the inner workings.
                  • 6. Re: Odd RAW behaviour
                    Ramón G Castañeda Level 4
                    >It sounds like the camera puts out a 2848x2136 image and the Fuji software is resizing that up.

                    I agree with that. I've had several RAW images from a Fuji S6000fd camera to work on. A neighbor let me shoot a few test shots on one of my cards.

                    Besides, just do the math 2848 x 2136 = 6,083,328 pixels, or 6.1 megapixels. Anything larger than 2848 x 2136 pixels has to be an uprezzing of the file.
                    • 7. Re: Odd RAW behaviour
                      Level 1
                      Ok good to know Adobe is letting me work with the original :)
                      • 8. Re: Odd RAW behaviour
                        Level 1
                        Just to set the record straight, Fuji has not been quite accurate in it's MP rating for cameras since they went to their newer honycomb diagonal biased sensors...the MP rating claim is 2X the actual pixels in reality. What Thomas suggests is to set the output to be the max dimensions in Camera Raw to get the same upsampled size quoted by Fuji...yes, it's upsampled but should return the same size as the Fuji software with similar results.