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Mac or Windows?
Have you tried purging the cache through the Tools menu?
Windows. And yes, I have.
I have a few sample raw files from a Canon 350D, and ACR 4.4 is working fine on all of them on my Mac. :|
I just did the following:
Renamed the old CameraRaw.8bi to CameraRaw.8bi.4.3.1, the new version to CameraRaw.8bi.4.4. Started Bridge. Cleared Cache. As expected, no previews for CR2-Files. The menu-entry "Open in CameraRaw" was gone, too.
Then I closed Bridge, named the 4.4 back and started Bridge again. All previews generated again, the menu-entry is gone for good aparently. But when I click Open, CameraRaw 4.4 opens in Photoshop and the Magenta is gone.
Do you have the menu-entry "Open in Camera Raw" still?
Why can't people follow simple instructions? :(
What are you trying to tell me, Mr. Joslin?
Menu item is back and problem as well. Start Camera Raw from Bridge via "Open in Camera Raw" - all magenta, start PS from Bridge, Camera Raw window opens, all fine. Which part of the b***g instructions did I not understand?
Don't just "re-name" the old ACR plug-in. Nuke it, delete it, trash it.
Renaming it smacks of keeping a used paper tissue in your pocket after you blow your nose instead of discarding it.
If you want to keep the old plug-in around for whatever reason, Zip it (archive it) and move it way out of the way.
>Do you have the menu-entry "Open in Camera Raw" still?
Yes, it's there. [and working fine too.]
b DO NOT
rename the new ACR plug-in at all!
Actually, renaming files doesn't do them any harm. What I tried was basically:
1) run Bridge with CR 4.3.1. Open file in CR, all fine
2) run Bridge without any Version of CR, no conversion as expected. Menu gone as well
3) run Bridge with CR 4.4. Reconfigure, menu came back. Open file in CR, horrible tint; open file in PS, CR window opens, colour OK.
That I kept the old 4.3.1 gives me the chance to go back. I now just won't use the function any more, open in PS works, Lightroom works, so what?
You're on your own then, Henrik. Have it your way and enjoy your magenta images.
You you post a screen capture?
It seems to be a colour management problem. Realized it isn't only too much magenta, but the colour is completely off. I checked and saw the profile in CR was set to AdobeRGB. Switching to sRGB corrected the picture, but that means I cannot use AdobeRGB any longer, nor anything else but sRGB. That did not happen with 4.3.1, just tested it again. And it doesn't when CR is running in PS. If the window is opened in PS, I can select AdobeRGB and get the image displayed correctly.
In addition I tested it on my laptop - there it doesn't happen. All fine. No change in the displayed image. Laptop runs Vista, desktop XP SP2. Both monitors calibrated using Spyder3.
How does one post images here?
Upload your image file to the FTP site of your choice and post the link here.
Upload the screen shot to your own web site or to a place like pixentral.com and then post the URL to the image in a message here.
For pixentral, just use the actual URL for the image, not the HTML code they offer as a link.
All right. Both taken on the same machine. First after starting CR from Bridge via "Open in Camera Raw"
Second after selecting "Open in PS" in Bridge:
And lets not talk about the quality of the photos, its just for demonstration.
I don't have an answer about the issue, but is it normal that going one way the interface would be in German and the other way in English? Just asking in case it matters in this.
Ah, sorry, switched my Bridge to German, PS is English. But the issue is the same when both is English.
To get back to the magenta problem...
I just updated 4.3 to 4.4 -- win XP -- normal install 8bi file replacement procedure in the proper directory. Images appear way off color to magenta when viewed in acr. But only in acr: bridge rendered previews appear as expected, and bridge does use acr for rendering, right? Problem is only with acr AdobeRGB color space seting. In acr 4.4 normal/expected color rendering returns if I switch color space setting (bottom of acr screen) from AdobeRGB to any of the other three color space choices. Off-color is only with Adobe RGB setting.
For now I'm back to 4.3. Hope someone can identify the problem.
I can't reproduce that on my Mac. Maybe a Windows-only issue?
Perhaps windows. Bbut ... curiouser and curiouser:
Off-color is only seen in bridge-hosted acr. Bridge preview renders properly (color-wise -- high quality thumbnails and in preview pane).
If I open in ACR from bridge I see the magenta problem; but image is color-rendered properly when I click on preview in bridge to open in PS-hosted acr.
Any ideas / suggestions to try?
Make really sure you monitor profile is good is my only suggestion. Changing the color space popup in Camera Raw should only change its display by a *very* small amount.
I am quite happy that I am not alone with this. Mr. Shomler seems to have exactly the same problem as I have. And I doubt it is the monitor profile, as if it were 4.3.1 would display the same off-colours and CR would show the effect regardless from where it was called. This is a bug that apparently only appears on Windows, maybe only with XP, maybe only on specific machines. But it is not a monitor issue, I think
I don't get it on my .CR2 files. (Windows XP Pro SP2)
>Changing the color space popup in Camera Raw should only change its display by a *very* small amount.
That has certainly been my experience until now.
Two things lead away from monitor profile problem for my situation:
1. The off colors only are seen in bridge-hosted acr 4.4, colors are properly rendered as expected in PS-hosted acr 4.4; and
2. When I open several raw files at one time in bridge-hosted acr 4.4 (acr filmstrip mode), all of the thumbnails along the left are properly color-rendered: only the image selected for display in acr 4.4's large preview panel has off colors.
I tried raw files from three different Canon cameras to see if color rendering would change with camera model/profile: no change -- same off colors for all three.
Here are some quick and dirty color sample test results where I used acr's color sampler tool on a yellow area of pixels in one image. I made the selection by eye, so within manual margin for location difference the exact area selected by the picker differs slightly for each of these three tests. Note the red and blue value shifts in AdobeRGB.
PS-hosted acr 4.4 R-G-B values under color picker:
AdobeRGB 203 130 4
ColorMatch 206 110 0
ProPhoto 168 129 0
sRGB 225 131 1
Bridge-hosted acr 4.4 R-G-B values under color picker:
AdobeRGB 179 139 40
ColorMatch 203 108 0
ProPhoto 165 122 27
sRGB 222 129 0
Bridge-hosted acr 4.3 R-G-B values under color picker:
AdobeRGB 186 114 0
ColorMatch 186 93 0
ProPhoto 150 107 17
sRGB 207 114 0
I downloaded and installed CR4.4 last night on my Windows XP machine and I also have a very strong magenta cast in the Camera Raw window, normal looking colours in the Bridge preview.
Allan, to see if this is similar to what I am experiencing:
Is this with acr hosted by bridge or by PS. If by bridge, try opening in acr hosted by Photoshop and see if colors match bridge preview.
And if acr is hosted by by bridge, is acr set to AdobeRGB color? If so, try changing acr to another color space -- sRGB or ProPhoto, and see if colors then appear correct (match bridge preview).
Robert, it is when ACR is hosted in Bridge, and only when AdobeRGB is set. With other RGB profiles, or when ACR is hosted in Photoshop the colour looks normal.
That is the same set of symptoms I see.
A bridge engineer has been working with me on another problem. He knows of this problem too, though in his notes to me he writes that he has not yet been able to recreate the condition. So Adobe is aware of this and looking into it.
Allan Reade & Henrik Zawisha (and anybody else who can reproduce this bug):
Please send me an email (click on my name to see my email address).
(Robert Schomler - you don't need to since I already have your email address).